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Sean Dell Jan 16, 2007 08:24 PM

Hey Hounds,

Looking for a really good fresh whole fish this week.

Wild Edibles has a good reputation, though I have never been there. Fairway and Citarella are ok, but not of the highest quality, I think.

Some people swear by Chinatown, but I have no clue about the fishmongers down there.

Any recs gratefully received.

- Sean

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  1. jakew8 RE: Sean Dell Jan 16, 2007 08:25 PM

    the fish store at Chelsea Market is one idea. not sure how the selection of whole fish is, though.

    1. MMRuth RE: Sean Dell Jan 16, 2007 08:45 PM

      I liked Wild Edibles when I would go to the GV location - it's now The Lobster Place or something like that - the fish also looks v. good there - I've gotten a couple of things. They seem to have a carefully picked selection, as if the buyer chooses what looks good, rather than having a huge array. There is a place on the UES called Leonards, that is supposed to be excellent - haven't tried it. We usually go to Citarella - pretty reliable. Dean & DeLuca on Madison always has the most desultory looking fish, nor am I thrilled with the WF quality.

      I'm always tempted by the fish prices in Chinatown, and while I'm not squeamish, and I'm sure that many flies may well have touched fish that I eat, the sight of them in the C'town locations turns me off.

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        fauchon RE: Sean Dell Jan 16, 2007 08:49 PM

        Grace's Marketplace at Third Ave & 71st Str has an excellent fish dept. Ask for Ronny....

        Citarella's is pretty good but not as good as Grace's...

        I was turned off by WE....or, I should say, by the smell...made me think it wasn't the cleanest or the freshest...

        I agree with whoever was negative about Dean & Deluca...looks & smells tired....

        Eli's Manhattan has a fish dept but I've never tried it...it always seems deserted...

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          MMRuth RE: fauchon Jan 16, 2007 08:57 PM

          Eli's Manhattan had some of the most beautiful salmon I've ever seen - at a cool $43 a pound - probably worth it, but a little too rich for me.

          As an aside - the D&D on Madison Ave always depresses me - some things are great - but the produce and fish departments are lousy - as if they don't have enough turnover - so I don't end up going there even though it's right down the street.

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            fauchon RE: MMRuth Jan 16, 2007 09:08 PM

            I'm in Eli's fairly often and *never* see any customers in the fish dept....maybe I go at the wrong times...maybe the astronomical prices are a turn-off...~~~shrugs~~~

            I completely agree about Mad Ave D&D...there's something really quite sad about it...

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              MMRuth RE: fauchon Jan 16, 2007 09:10 PM

              My theory is that they do a lot of business in the prepared food and baked goods areas. The cheese selection is pretty decent, but pricey. I've had conversations with several managers there (they seem to have a lot of turnover, because I'd love it to be great, and they are aware of the problem, but I was just there yesterday and noted the same fish/produce problems. Nothing like the SoHo (or DC for that matter) store.

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                ballulah RE: MMRuth Jan 18, 2007 10:12 PM

                The produce is equally off-putting at the D&D SoHo location. Wide and varied selection, but mostly old, wilted and withered.

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          tartlet RE: Sean Dell Jan 16, 2007 09:01 PM

          If possible, I go to the fish stand at the Greenmarket on saturdays mornings. They always have wonderful scallops, flounder, etc. The only problem is that they only sell local fish, so the selection is limited, obviously.

          Otherwise,I really like The Lobster Place, both the Chelsea Market and the Bleecker Street locations. The fish is always fresh and the prices are fair.

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            Sweatshirt Guy RE: Sean Dell Jan 16, 2007 09:14 PM

            Add me as a fan of the Lobster Place.

            1. 280 Ninth RE: Sean Dell Jan 16, 2007 10:56 PM

              I live in Chelsea, and go to the Lobster Place for most fish, but for whole fish I go to Chinatown...too many vendors to know which one is "the best," but I've had a good experience with the one on the corner of Grand and Chrystie Sts. (after an excursion to DiPalo's on Grand and Mott).

              Used to swear by Citerella for mussels until I got a bad bunch, so Lobster Place is now my default....

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                Gelaine RE: Sean Dell Jan 16, 2007 11:26 PM

                If you live on the UES you might consider Dorrians....on York between 83 and 84. They are an offshoot of the much lamented Rosedale. Expensive (!).... but I've never had anything bad. I also shop frequently at Eli's (91st St.). They're a tad cheaper than Dorrian.... but my husband always notices the difference! (And he is in no way a "foodie." )

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                  dbird RE: Sean Dell Jan 17, 2007 12:31 AM

                  If you are looking for a good whole fish and know Wild Edibles' reputation, why haven't you been? I get almost all my fish from WE which means I take something home 2-3 times a week at least. I am always very happy. They had a huge mackeral the other week, just gorgeous. Something like 12 lbs, I didn't know that was even possible. GC has a much larger selection than Murray Hill although I understand Murray Hill supplies them. They aren't cheap and I am still wishing for a wholesaler. Some one recommended a place in Hells Kitchen but WE is so convenient for me that I haven't yet followed up. I have had some good fish from Lobster Place on Bleecker and at Chelsea Market and from Gramercy Fish although I still don't believe their $3 wild salmon burgers are actually made from wild salmon. I wish the Times would repeat their investigation.

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                    Sean Dell RE: Sean Dell Jan 17, 2007 02:27 AM

                    I wanted to check out Wild Edibles with other Hounds, which is why I asked the question. But I am encouraged by your experience.

                    Where is GC, by the way? I am trying to decipher the acronym but nothing is coming through..

                    - Sean

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                      MMRuth RE: Sean Dell Jan 17, 2007 11:26 AM

                      Grand Central - in the food market area - Murray's Cheese etc.

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                      dbird RE: Sean Dell Jan 17, 2007 10:24 PM

                      Thanks MMRuth, and Sean Dell, I didn't mean to be obscure or rude.

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                        Sean Dell RE: Sean Dell Jan 18, 2007 12:39 PM

                        Thanks all.

                        I went to GC but there were no large wild fish available. Went to Fairways and the fish looked really, well, dead. Got a 7lb wild striper in Citarella that looked good. I'll know tonight!

                        - Sean

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                          ellenfoto RE: Sean Dell Jan 18, 2007 02:16 PM

                          union square fish people are good. there is one on the weekend who sells fish from east hampton and one on wednesdays who sells lake and river fish from upstate new york. all the fish is super fresh and fairly priced. i also buy alot of whole fish in chinatown, usually on mott street, and have never been disappointed.

                          1. ballulah RE: Sean Dell Jan 18, 2007 10:20 PM

                            In defense of the Chinatown fish mongers, for the volume of fish they have right out on the sidewalk, those places have decidedly little odor. I've bought some beautiful fresh (and CHEAP) fish down there. There's one in particular down at the end of Mulberry St, near Baxter Square that is pricier than Canal Street, but quieter and fresher. And right next door is a spectacular little grocer that has such interesting Chinese, Thai, Vietnamese and Indian pantry staples, and also good produce.

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