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Fantasy Iron Chef America

sasha1 Jan 16, 2007 07:30 PM

Ok - appoint 4 new Iron Chefs, who are there for their talent and originality, and not for their boyish good looks and lack of charm. And just for fun, propose a secret ingredient. Since I'm feeling a little devilish, I'd love to see what they could do with ketchup. Or water.

On the chef decision, I'd keep Mario, because he seems less distracted than many of Food Networks "stars" by the fame, and has kept true to his passion, which is cooking and food. Bobby, I would ax. He is conceited (standing on a cuttingboard???), and it irks me that he can't plate a dish without putting every color of the rainbow on it. I think Morimoto is talented but sometimes nuts (wasn't there a episode on the original show where he made spaghetti with ketchup in paper cones?), but he doesn't get called up much. Cat Cora is the token female, and she is just that. A token. Rarely gets called, and I think she is her #1 fan. I'm not sure who else is in her corner. I'd almost put Suzanne Goin in her place. This is a local preference of course, but having been to Lucques a couple times and AOC a couple more times, I haven't had a single dish I haven't liked or loved.

Who are your choices?

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    Bostonbob3 RE: sasha1 Jan 16, 2007 07:39 PM

    Iron Chef French: Daniel Boulud
    Iron Chef Italian: Anthony Susi
    Iron Chef Japanese: Masayoshi Takayama
    Iron Chef American: Thomas Keller (I know, I know, he does French, but how can you leave him off the list?)

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      Morton the Mousse RE: Bostonbob3 Jan 18, 2007 06:38 PM

      It would take Keller an hour just to prepare and plate the amuse bouche! I love his food, but I don't think his style of cooking would adapt to the Iron Chef format.

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      ooroger RE: sasha1 Jan 16, 2007 09:43 PM

      Iron Chef Nightmare: Sandra Lee
      Iron Chef Crockpot: Rachel Ray
      Iron Chef Grating: Paula Deen
      Iron Chef Creepy: The Hearty Boys

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        Bostonbob3 RE: ooroger Jan 17, 2007 01:49 PM

        LOL! Especially Iron Chef Creepy.

        Not only are they creepy, they prepare bad catering food.

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          ChefJune RE: Bostonbob3 Apr 13, 2009 09:10 AM

          <Not only are they creepy, they prepare bad catering food>

          Have YOU eaten their food? I have, and it was delicious. I don't watch their show, but when they were on TNFNS, I didn't think there was anything creepy about them.

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          lollya RE: ooroger Jan 17, 2007 05:15 PM

          i actually did laugh out loud just now and spit out my moroccan chickpea soup.

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            Bostonbob3 RE: lollya Jan 17, 2007 06:02 PM

            I propose a Deen Boys versus The Hearty Boys battle.

            I wouldn't actually watch it, but it would make for a train wreck of annoying personalities.

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              heathermb RE: Bostonbob3 Jan 18, 2007 01:57 AM

              Do you think that's what they had in mind with the RR vs Giada?

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                Bostonbob3 RE: heathermb Jan 18, 2007 12:53 PM

                Or, as I called it, the Teeth versus the Lollypop Head.

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          sasha1 RE: sasha1 Jan 16, 2007 09:57 PM

          Funny! Sandra Lee would drink herself into oblivion with her aquamarine coctails if the secret ingredient wasn't vanilla pudding.

          1. steinpilz RE: sasha1 Jan 16, 2007 11:00 PM

            Iron Chef Local - Alice Waters
            Iron Chef Global - Jean Georges Vongerichten
            Iron Chef West - Thomas Keller
            Iron Chef East - Mario Batali

            - because I'd like to regularly see their cooking style.

            Battles I wouldn't mind seeing:

            Waters vs Boulud
            Vongerichten vs Nobu
            Keller vs Ducasse
            Batali vs Fergus Henderson

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              Grubbjunkie RE: sasha1 Jan 16, 2007 11:34 PM

              Alice Waters v. Wylie Dufresne doing Battle Egg or Potato would be fun to watch and judge.

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                xfleetwoodx RE: sasha1 Jan 17, 2007 12:30 AM

                I'd like to see Thomas Keller v. Grant Achatz.

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                  Phaedrus RE: xfleetwoodx Jan 18, 2007 12:50 PM

                  Yeah, I would actually pay to see that.

                  How about El Bulli staff versus French Laundry staff.

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                    Bostonbob3 RE: Phaedrus Jan 18, 2007 12:56 PM

                    I would pick El Bulli to win, but only because they have a full arsenal of odd chemicals and aerosols they could use as weapons againt Keller.

                2. heathermb RE: sasha1 Jan 17, 2007 02:26 AM

                  Battle of the Food Icons:

                  Iron Chef French: Julia Childs
                  Iron Chef Italian: Marcella Hazan
                  Iron Chef "American:" Alice Waters
                  Iron Chef Vegas: Wolfgang Puck

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                    Bostonbob3 RE: heathermb Jan 17, 2007 01:43 PM

                    What would the secret ingredient be in the Julia Child battle? Formaldehyde?

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                      heathermb RE: Bostonbob3 Jan 17, 2007 02:05 PM

                      Yuck! No, but since this is a *fantasy* posting, I'd love the chance to see her square off in the kitchen against one of today's food icons.

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                    Bostonbob3 RE: sasha1 Jan 17, 2007 02:06 PM

                    How about Julia Child versus James Beard?

                    "Battle of the Graveyard Stars."

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                      ML8000 RE: sasha1 Jan 18, 2007 04:01 AM

                      In Roto League fantasy mode, I'll go right to the match ups:

                      Battle High & Low - Keller vs Flay
                      Battle Old School vs Hip & Lip - Pepin vs Bourdain
                      Battle Showmen - Yan vs Emeril
                      Battle Food Nerds - Alton Brown vs Chris Kimball


                      Flay might do better then you think, Keller might not like the environment/set-up...everyone would love to see Flay destroyed

                      Bourdain would have a a difficult time "getting it up" against someone he respects...talker vs. non-talker

                      Yan and Emeril, similar: hams of a different flavor, it would be weird but both can cook

                      Brown vs Kimball...just because you could

                      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

                      Bonus Tag Team Grudge Matches

                      Keller & Kimball vs Flay & Brown
                      Yan & Bourdain vs Emeril & Pepin

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                        Kuisine RE: ML8000 Jan 18, 2007 08:29 AM

                        Wasn't there an Emeril episode where that essentially happened? Emeril invited Yan on the show and Yan totally out-showmanshipped (ok I'm making words up now)him?

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                          ML8000 RE: Kuisine Jan 18, 2007 07:13 PM

                          Indeed there was and I admit to copping the idea...but it did lead me to think it would be great match up esp. w/ Emeril out for revenge.

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                            Bostonbob3 RE: ML8000 Jan 18, 2007 07:21 PM

                            Ooo, Emeril out for revenge?

                            Don't forget, he's from Fall River, Mass., home of Lizzie Borden.

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                          Phaedrus RE: ML8000 Jan 18, 2007 12:52 PM

                          I think Bourdain and Pepin would be choking their respective partners at the end of the Grudge match. That's good TV though!

                        3. chaddict RE: sasha1 Jan 18, 2007 06:07 AM

                          Yan/Bourdain I can oddly see. Emeril/Pepin-oh.my.gawd! The mind reels! It hasn't even happened I am already ordering the sympathy flowers for Pepin. ML8000, you have a sick and twisted mind. Marry me?

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                            ML8000 RE: chaddict Jan 18, 2007 07:52 PM

                            Marriage? Only if Flay officiates and follows up with catering from a "Throwdown! With Bobby Flay" show and it's Thai food. You are right about Yan/Bourdain. I think they'd both get the joke (unlike others chefs) and milk it just right.

                          2. la vida dulce RE: sasha1 Jan 18, 2007 10:00 AM

                            I'd watch these match ups---
                            Iron Chef Mamas: Mary Ann Esposito vs. Lidia Bastianich

                            Iron Chef Lab Experiments: Harold McGee vs. Shirley Coriher

                            Iron Chef Pie Fight: Three Stooges vs. Soupy Sales

                            Iron Chef Chocolates: David Lebovitz vs. Jacques Torres

                            Iron Chef Food Critics: Virbila vs. Levine

                            Iron Chef McSteamy: Curtis Stone vs. Tyler Florence
                            (hey, it's my fantasy!)

                            Iron Chef In The Sky: Careme vs. Escoffier

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                              Phaedrus RE: la vida dulce Jan 18, 2007 12:53 PM

                              If you're going to go that far, how about Brillat-Savarin against Ferran Adria?

                            2. sgordon RE: sasha1 Apr 13, 2009 05:58 AM

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                              Tracy De Jardins
                              Iacopo Falai
                              Kenny Shopsin

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