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wodicker Jan 15, 2007 01:13 PM

I know there is Schnucks, and I know there is a Whole Foods. Schnucks is no butcher, lets face it, and as for the latter...well I am not wealthy enough to purchase meat from the overpriced meat counter. My wife is from Ste. Genevieve, and when we visit her family, I always stop at Oberle meat market. They have freshly cut meat. Good meat! Anything you need. Natural sausage casings, pork belly, etc. Is there anything like this around St. Louis? I recently found a recipe for a provencal pork daube. It calls for Berkshire hog. I know I probably won't attain that quality, but surely I can find some good, marbled pork. Can anyone help!

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  1. bobzemuda RE: wodicker Jan 15, 2007 03:08 PM

    http://www.heritageacresfoods.com/ is in Missouri. I'm not sure if any grocer in the city buys from them however.

    The Smokehouse Market's pork is always cut better, but I don't think that it's any better quality then what you'd find elsewhere.

    As to beef, even a large percentage of the meat cutters in St. Louis are bringing in excel cryovacked beef, so it's hard to find good quality without ordering it in, or finding it somewhere frozen.

    Cornerstone Nutrition in Chesterfield valley, for instance, sells Missouri grass fed beef, but it's frozen...which sucks.

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      stlSarah RE: wodicker Jan 15, 2007 03:37 PM

      I am very happy with the beef and butchering done at Straubs.
      Baumann's( not too sure of the spelling) now in Manchester just west of Brentwood was always a reliable source for prime beef and unusual cuts- although it has been a bit since I relied on them.

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        robt5265 RE: wodicker Jan 16, 2007 04:00 AM

        I don't think the beef carried at Baumann's is Prime. At Straub's it is, and nothing available retail come near it in the St. Louis area. It is expensive but worth the cost.

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          rexmo RE: wodicker Jan 16, 2007 03:06 PM

          Before they closed, I was a regular at Olive St. Meat Market and Deli. When I was after a picnic shoulder, the butcher there would sometimes put in a call to Miller Ham in Soulard and get one put aside for me.

          John's Butcher Shop on Walton Road in Overland has done real well when I have gone in with unusual requests: beef navel, skirt, hanger steak, tri-tip. They do cut up cows there, so they're able to do things a cryovac "butcher" can't.

          For prices on beef, I think it's hard to beat Josephville Meat Processing. I got a whole beef shoulder clod and a whole pork shoulder there for a club BBQ last spring. They don't deal with ATM cards, and it's best to order in advance, but they are processing whole pigs and cattle. I don't think you'll beat their prices on steaks.

          It's a little out of the way if you live in town, but Brown's in Winfield has great pork prices. Collared picnics are $0.99/lb, bulk or linked sausage is $1.99, their own smoked bacon is excellent, and they can do anything up to whole pigs.

          Last time I cooked a whole pig, I think it came from a little meat market on Manchester in Ellisville or Ballwin.

          Global Foods in Kirkwood may be worth looking at to see if they can do what you want. I have bought whole beef tenderloins there before for a reasonable price, and was seriously eyeing the veal breast I saw there not too long ago.

          A couple of things I like to get at Straubs are the lamb patties and turkey thighs, both seriously good deals. The thighs require calling ahead so they save them out of the ground turkey. And their marinated lamb shoulder is sinful.

          There was also an article in Sauce about a farmer/sausage maker out of Cape Girardeau area who peddles at some of the local farmers markets.

          One other lead, periodically someone advertises meat direct from the farm on craigslist.

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            stlSarah RE: rexmo Jan 16, 2007 07:18 PM

            Lots of good info there! I have bought the shoulder of lamb with the bone (for a Nigella recipe for 14hour lamb)from Straubs- but only in the CWE. Very reasonable. Has become a winter staple. The lamb patties are great- if very fatty; perfect for the grill, good for people who have not been raised with lamb.
            Global Foods is a bit of a crap shoot from my experience. They have so much variety that sometimes the shelflife of each item is not always kept up with. That being said it is the only place for McVittie's digestives and Roundtree's fruit pastles.

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              rexmo RE: stlSarah Jan 17, 2007 03:28 PM

              Straub's lamb patties + Montreal Steak Seasoning = burger heaven. Also great starting material for a mean merguez.

              The linguisha from GF was a pleasant surprise, big hit at a pizza party. I keep meaning to get a bit of all the ethnic bacon varieties in the deli case to see what they're like. Staples I have to go there for: Guarana Antartica Brazilian soda, frozen passionfruit pulp, kaffir lime leaf, adriatic fruit syrups, Penguen brand preserves.

              One other thing I have heard about meat at the big grocers: you find their best in the high rent neighborhoods, like the Schnucks at Ladue & I-170.

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              wodicker RE: rexmo Jan 17, 2007 10:22 PM

              Awesome, that is exactly what I wanted to hear! I will be sure to explore all of those ideas. Out of curiousity, was the farmer in Cape Brian Trumper? I went to SEMO and put myself through school waiting tables and bartending at the nicer resturaunts. Brian was formerly a cook at the last place I worked, which, by the way, if you are ever in Cape Girardeau, you would be cheating yourself if you didn't eat at Celebrations. Seriously good food, and a four time Wine Spectator wine list award winner. Also, in Wine Spectator's Best Wine Resturaunts in the world book! Hard to believe!

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                rexmo RE: wodicker Jan 19, 2007 12:53 PM

                One more lead on pork I forgot to mention. Can't vouch for the quality, but I did see some mighty pieces of hog being cut up in the butcher area of a Latino market on the Rock Road in St. Ann. On a corner east of Ashby.

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              bonwich RE: wodicker Jan 16, 2007 09:14 PM

              I'm a big fan of Hanlen's on Manchester Road in Kirkwood. There's also The Bull Market/Savage Foods in the Chesterfield Valley, although I think all of their stuff is cryo. (One of their specialty cuts is teres major, which is a lot of fun to cook with.)

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                p.j. RE: wodicker Jan 17, 2007 05:37 PM

                There was an article in the Daily Sauce today about a source for grass-fed beef.

                www.americangrassfedbeef.com or call 866.255.5002

                American Grass-Fed Beef
                "we got hooked on the samples of jerky and summer sausage that the folks from American Grass Fed Beef were doling out."

                This small veterinarian-owned-and-operated, 4,000-acre grass farm, located in the south central Ozark area of Missouri, has made an international name for itself by raising, producing and shipping nothing but free-range, natural grass-fed beef. Dr. Patricia Whisnant and her husband, Mark, are more like natural food and environmental proselytizers than cattle ranchers. The couple and their six children personally care for about 1,200 head of cattle, rotating them between different grass pastures, which allows the land to naturally replenish itself (no fertilizers or pesticides are ever used). Rotating also reduces the amount of parasites and diseases that feedlot cattle are exposed to, therefore AGFB never uses antibiotics, hormones or steroids in its feed or water.

                Because grass-fed beef is extremely lean, the Whisnants dry-age their beef for a minimum of 14 days, making it more tender and "beefier" tasting. But all this deliciousness doesn't come cheap; land, individual attention, longer raising times, dry-aging and processing mean the end result is more expensive than your average beef producer.

                Order online or by telephone.
                www.americangrassfedbeef.com or call 866.255.5002

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                  Lemp1 RE: wodicker Jan 18, 2007 04:41 PM

                  I find it hard to believe that Kenricks off of Bayless hasn't been mentioned. I have had very god results with almost every cut of meat I have ever purchased there.

                  1. DetectDave RE: wodicker Feb 17, 2007 09:35 AM

                    Come on across the river and try some of our local country butcher shops:

                    Schuberts Packing: http://www.schubertspacking.com/

                    Wennemans Meat Market - Saint Libory Illinois
                    7415 State Route 15, Saint Libory IL 62282 -( 618) 768-4328

                    Behrmann Meat & Processing
                    Address: 303 E State Route 161, Albers, IL 62215
                    Phone: (618) 248-5151

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                      pixelbender RE: wodicker Apr 15, 2007 02:05 AM

                      WOW I'm glad I found this thread! My father is from Ste. Gen (the Mueller bros). He dated Cindy Oberle in HS and although vaguely related to the Oberly Meat family (ie not a direct daughter), it was still always fun to joke that if he had married her I could have had all the oberle dog I wanted! (oberle dog, the oberle cheese, and their pork loin being my favorites!)

                      I've heard good things about Kendricks, but am glad to have so many other places to go to. Thanks for everyone who posted in reponse to wodicker.

                      As for Cape - forgot Celebrations, its so-so. Try Saffron's for thai (although they aren't as good as Manee used to be), Dexter BBQ for BBQ, or better yet go out to Marble HIll for Jay's BBQ (better than the one in Jackson). Also, I can't remember the name, but for an AWESOME pizza (many variants, as well) check out the newer italian place out in Marble Hill (Mario is the name of the owner, lives in Cape).

                      Also, I believe that the grass fed beef company had an articale in the SE Missourian sometime in the last month.

                      EDIT: Please tell me you eat at the Old Brick when in Ste. Gen!? Mmmm nothing like their fried chicken, liver dumplings, green beens and roast beef.

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                        evillegriller RE: wodicker Jun 18, 2008 12:37 PM

                        I know this is an old thread, but LeGrand's Market and Catering on Donovan in south St. Louis is great. They butcher half cows, and can get specialty cuts, including whole hog. I worked there for a year and a half (about 15 years ago), and I still go there to buy meat. Plus, Jim and Joe are just all around great guys.

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                          CheesemongersWife RE: evillegriller Jun 18, 2008 01:29 PM

                          I have also done well at Don's Meat Market on S. Broadway.

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                            bandeapart RE: evillegriller Jun 20, 2008 08:30 AM

                            I second this recommendation! LeGrand's is all-around perfect: nice people and excellent meat.

                          2. TwoPointers RE: wodicker Jun 18, 2008 06:11 PM

                            Is Mateker's still around? Used to be up by Concord Plaza if I am remembering correctly. Out in Gray Summit there is Zena's (I believe that is what it is called) right on Highway 100. Can't miss it if you take Highway 100 from Wildwood down until it runs into 44 at GS exit.

                            1. hill food RE: wodicker Jun 19, 2008 12:37 AM

                              drove by Piekutowski's last visit home without time, still kicking myself for not going in:

                              http://www.saucemagazine.com/article/1/167

                              http://www.saucemagazine.com/article/1/87
                              http://stlouis.citysearch.com/profile...

                              "The brothers use the original 75-year-old stuffing machine and still smoke their sausages in built-in brick ovens in the back of the shop."

                              just below N. Grand, near I-70, classic. don't let the area scare you, been haunting places around there for 25+ years - don't believe the hype. seen worse.

                              1. wekick RE: wodicker Jun 21, 2008 09:02 AM

                                I don't know if these are Berkshire but definitely great quality. I learned not that long ago that the darker pork is the better. On their website they mention that their pork is dark.
                                http://hinkebeinhillsfarm.com/index.htm
                                I usually pick up meat at the various farmer's markets.
                                Bill's Meat and Market on Bellefountaine gets sides of beef so that you can get a chuck roast or sirloin steak with a bone. All their meat is good.

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                                  CheesemongersWife RE: wodicker Jun 22, 2008 07:18 AM

                                  You can also get Berkshire Pork from the Newman Farm in Myrtle, MO. I believe they don't sell direct from the farm but you can check out their website at http://www.newmanfarm.com/

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                                    par38lamp RE: wodicker May 18, 2009 11:00 AM

                                    Perhaps you should try G&W Bavarian Meat market on Kingshighway. While I was picking up some brautwurst, a woman was picking up a whole side of pork belly for her hsuband who made his own bacon. She did have to call ahead for it.

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                                      Gebhart RE: wodicker Dec 14, 2010 09:10 PM

                                      My husband owns a Meat Market at the corner of Bellefontaine and Chambers Rd. called Bill's Riverview Market and Meats. I can honestly tell you they have the freshest, best-selection of meat in St. Louis-believe me no other meat I've tasted comes close tasting as delicious as the meat my husband brings home-and I'm not even a big meat girl! They make homemade sausage, brats, stuffed chops, etc. They carry all the local favorites. Bill and his dad are just awesome butchers who take care of their customers like no other! If you'd like, give them a try at 10009 Bellefontaine Rd. St Louis, MO 63137 314-868-0400

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