360380 Mon Jan 15 05:17:45 -0800 2007 17 33 Food Media and News 0 2189616 I'll be visiting NY next month and wanted to purchase a guidebook that had great restaurant info. I know there is always Chowhound, but I'm not sure I'll have internet access during my visit. Any ideas on a good book we can use? Thanks! Mon Jan 15 05:17:45 -0800 2007 36501 tivon 1 2189630 zagat Mon Jan 15 05:25:17 -0800 2007 2189616 20586 dkstar1 2 2189715 that says it all. It's inexpensive and easy to carry. Do get the most up to date copy--the 2007 edition. Buy it at home (large bookstores) or online perhaps (zagat.com, not sure if on Amazon or Barnes & Noble) or as soon as you arrive. It's a very popular point of sale items in many types of stores in Manhattan. It does include the Outer Boroughs. Mon Jan 15 06:32:06 -0800 2007 2189630 10771 eve 1 2190046 Zagat's should be used as a telephone and address directory and nothing more. Try mouthfulsfood.com Mon Jan 15 14:16:24 -0800 2007 2189616 12231 gutsofsteel 1 2190130 I like the Time Out New York Eating and Drinking Guide. http://www.amazon.com/dp/0967524091?tag=timeoutnewyor-20&camp=14573&creative=327641&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=0967524091&adid=1ESRYK4KA085PRD3Z9CV& You can get it along with Zagat for 20 bucks. Mon Jan 15 14:57:00 -0800 2007 2189616 52588 pacz 2 2190493 I am amazaed that Zagat is recommeded here. Zagat is the antithesis of what this site is all about, If you need a reference, the Timeout guide is decent, easy carry, etc....Zagat is great guide in deciding where NOT to go... Mon Jan 15 16:50:33 -0800 2007 2190130 10479 Cpalms 1 2190514 I found this book very useful when it was current and found some places I enjoyed when on holiday there (Spoonbread, Rissoteria etc). I don't know when it was last updated though and is sure to get out of date very quickly, I would think on-line forums such as the New York board here would be your best bet http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rough-Guide-York-Restaurants-Guides/dp/1843530988/sr=8-1/qid=1168880025/ref=sr_1_1/026-6595559-0843624?ie=UTF8&s=books Mon Jan 15 16:56:24 -0800 2007 2189616 21823 Pete S 1 2190583 If you are of an adventurous bent, you couldn't do better than The Food Lover's Guide to the Best Ethnic Eating in New York City by Robert Sietsema. A great Calvin Trillin introduction, some of the best food writing in NYC, and a roster of amazing places you absolutely wouldn't find on your own. A copy of Sietsema, supplemented by a recent issue of New York magazine for the more mainstream places - that's all you need. Mon Jan 15 17:09:23 -0800 2007 2189616 10702 condiment 1 2192653 Reaffirming Zagat and/or Time Out New York's Eating and Drinking Guide. As much as I read the weeklies Village Voice and New York Press (to say nothing of the Times and Daily News), it's for their individual reviews, not their synopses. Tue Jan 16 02:08:43 -0800 2007 2189616 23892 NYChristopher 1 2194713 I've heard the following is a good guide: http://www.amazon.com/Tourists-2007-Guide-York-City/dp/0977803112/sr=1-2/qid=1168975127/ref=pd_bbs_2/104-7432693-6627166?ie=UTF8&s=books Tue Jan 16 19:19:39 -0800 2007 2189616 35216 gaiadi 1 2197847 You're better off spending a couple hours researching the NYC chowhound boards and making your own guide book. Although you'll be able to filter out some tourist spots in the guide books - the books simply can't keep up to date on the closing, openings and changes of the restaurant scene. Wed Jan 17 17:11:21 -0800 2007 2189616 12472 wingman 1 2198273 If you have a PDA and can download programs, I find a combo of Zagat and Vindigo to be very helpful in locating restaurants. I particularly like that, with Vindigo, I can put in an intersection and find restaurants by distance. And I can compare Zagat's and Vindigo's reviews. Vindigo also has movies, shopping and other handy info. Wed Jan 17 18:34:24 -0800 2007 2189616 10787 Deenso 1 2198893 This is the newest guide & map to good food in NYC - and you can either access it on-line or buy the guide to carry around with you, or both. http://mappetite.com/ And then there's this from urbanspoon - one of the coolest things I've ever seen - and when you click on the highlighted area it takes you to a Google bulletin board map with lots more info on favorite restaurants in the area chosen. http://www.urbanspoon.com/a/3/New-York-at-night.html NY Magazine's 2006 Top 101 http://nymag.com/restaurants/wheretoeat/2006/ and Adam Platt's Where to Eat in 2007 http://nymag.com/restaurants/wheretoeat/2007/index.html Wed Jan 17 20:42:52 -0800 2007 2189616 24539 livetotravel 1 2210152 WWW.NEWYORKMETRO.COM HAS REVIEWS, MAPS, SUBWAY STOPS, OPERATING HOURS, DESCRIPTIONS, ARTICLES, OTHER INFORMATION FOR DOING PRETRIP RESEARCH. Sat Jan 20 21:39:05 -0800 2007 2189616 15142 MIKELOCK34 1 2210287 If you have time or for future reference the travel and tourism office of every major city offers free guidebooks including where to eat. One such resource is: http://www.nycvisit.com/memberSearch/searchRestaurant.cfm?pagePkey=17 Sat Jan 20 22:28:36 -0800 2007 2189616 36312 HillJ 1 2210539 And whatever you do, don't pay too much attention to those free dining magazines they hand out at hotels. Some give ecstatic praise to tourist traps, and I sometimes suspect they praise whoever pays. Sun Jan 21 00:16:33 -0800 2007 2189616 11362 Brian S 2 3003026 I just discovered The Food Lover's Guide to the Best Ethnic Eating in New York City by Robert Sietsema, and I love it. It's the updated 2004 edition, which is sadly already out of date (I wonder if ethnic restaurants tend to go out of business more quickly because the food is often cheaper). Anyone know if a new updated version is in the works? Thu Oct 04 05:28:04 -0700 2007 2210539 17777 Manhattan Diner 3 3045330 Other books Sietsema (of the Village Voice) has done have been reprinted (check Amazon) but I see now indication that this will be updated anytime soon. Do you think it's still worth getting, even if somewhat dated? Wed Oct 17 22:34:50 -0700 2007 3003026 23892 NYChristopher