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  <id>359918</id>
  <title>Copper pan warped?</title>
  <published_at>Sat Jan 13 17:26:19 -0800 2007</published_at>
  <post_count>6</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>41</id>
    <name>Cookware</name>
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        <level>0</level>
        <id>2185184</id>
        <content>I have 12" copper skillet I picked up this summer.  It's a Sur La Table piece made by Mauviel.  1.5mm copper with stainless steel interior.

It's a HEAVY pan and I've been pleased with how it's performed but I took it out this morning to saute some apples for a dessert I'm making and it seems to have warped!  

I use it on a ceramic cooktop...I never cook above med/med high(#6 setting of 10) and haven't had a problem with any of my other cookware warping.

I'm really surprised.   I'll take it back under warranty.  Warping shouldn't be a regular occurence with a properly made copper pan right? I was thinking about investing in a couple more pieces of copper(though was already thinking about a thicker layer of copper)but if I have to worry a lot about warping maybe not.</content>
        <published_at>Sat Jan 13 17:26:19 -0800 2007</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>16406</id>
          <name>ziggylu</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2185262</id>
      <content>Did you stick it under water while it was very hot?  If not, no, it shouldn't warp and at a presumably heft price, I'd certainly look into returning it.  I wouldn't bother with an even exchange, it doesn't bode well for that line in general, I think.

Now, I notice you mention "layer" of copper, so I'm confused about what you have.  "Copper pans" are solid copper with a thin layer of something less reactive covering it.  What you may have is a SS pan with a thin copper plating or something, in which case that's a whole 'nother ball of wax.  Exacatly what brand/line are we talking about?</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 13 17:51:44 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2185184</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11980</id>
        <name>MikeG</name>
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    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2185269</id>
      <content>Sorry, I'm mindless, ignore that second paragraph, I got confused when I saw your comment about "copper layer."  (It's not a layer, it's the pan's base material.)

Mauviel should not warp, but I have no idea what if anything they have to say about using it on a ceramic range.  At a minimum, call Sur La Table and ask them.  I'd lean heavily toward returning it, myself.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 13 17:54:25 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2185184</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11980</id>
        <name>MikeG</name>
      </user>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>2185282</id>
      <content>It's co-branded Sur La Table and Mauviel.  I'm not sure they carry this particular line anymore(it has a brass handle) though the still do have some Mauviel.  

It's either 1.5 or 1.8mm copper with a stainless steel lining.  I've read that 2+ mm is better.

My husband does the dishwashing.  I'll have to ask him about having washed it hot.

edit:  the pan I have is basically this one with a Sur La Table branding as well.  http://www.metrokitchen.com/item/M-6526-30/

I will return it for sure...and am glad to hear this shouldn't be a typical concern with a copper pan.   Did really like how it performed like I said.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 13 17:57:44 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2185184</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16406</id>
        <name>ziggylu</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2187574</id>
      <content>If you can, and this is of course also a financial consideration, try and exchange up to a 2.5 mm pan. 1.5 mm is good for display and serving, but not for serious cooking.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jan 14 15:07:02 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2185184</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16537</id>
        <name>andreas</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2189619</id>
      <content>You are probably talking about Mauviel "table top" it's really made more for nice table presentation.  I use the 2.5 Mil Mauviel daily and have not had a problem.  I abuse it regularly on my hi power gas burner and then put water in while hot to clean it.  I have never had any kind of issue with it. 

Now that being said I have switched to Faulk Culinar, because of it's ease of maintenace (www.copperpans.com) They actually own the patent on the ss bonding that Mauviel useses.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jan 15 05:19:03 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2185184</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>23935</id>
        <name>irodguy</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2192199</id>
      <content>The Sur la Table line is exactly for that -- serving.  It's not thick enough to cook in.  The 2 mm. Mauviel is barely thick enough, and the 2.5 mm. is much better.  The 2 mm. has a rolled lip at the top and thin brass handles.  The 2.5 mm. top is straight with heavy cast iron handles.

The 2.5 mm. ware is **really** heavy, but it cooks like nothing else.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 16 00:01:38 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2185184</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10539</id>
        <name>KRS</name>
      </user>
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