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  <id>359672</id>
  <title>Civet</title>
  <published_at>Fri Jan 12 18:36:55 -0800 2007</published_at>
  <post_count>20</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>27</id>
    <name>General Chowhounding Topics</name>
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      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>2182178</id>
        <content>I'm going to be dining at a restaurant featuring "Venison civet" as a menu choice in the coming month. Is this indeed the anal scent gland of a deer? Has anybody ever had it? What's it like? I've never heard of civet being used in food!</content>
        <published_at>Fri Jan 12 18:36:55 -0800 2007</published_at>
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          <name>Kasumeat</name>
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    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2182577</id>
      <content>Oh good God no! "Civet" is just an Italian and French technique for cooking game; marinating it with red wine, juniper berries, onions, and herbs.

Oh, and "civet" the cooking term comes from the Latin word for onion: cepa.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jan 12 19:42:00 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2182178</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16490</id>
        <name>Bostonbob3</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2183305</id>
      <content>&gt;&gt;Oh, and "civet" the cooking term comes from the Latin word for onion: cepa.&lt;&lt;

*Cepa* is also the source of English *chive*.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jan 12 22:31:47 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2182577</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10520</id>
        <name>carswell</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2182642</id>
      <content>Whew!  That was a close call ;-)  There is a cat-ish looking animal called a civet too.  Musk from the Civet once was important in the perfume trade, maybe that's the connection here?</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jan 12 19:57:52 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2182178</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>42270</id>
        <name>HaagenDazs</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2182653</id>
      <content>Different etymology. "Civet" as in civet cat is derived from Arabic.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jan 12 20:00:20 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2182642</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11369</id>
        <name>Robert Lauriston</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2182694</id>
      <content>LOL, the first thing that came to my head when civet was mention was the animal.  Hmmm... I wonder how civet and venison would match?</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jan 12 20:08:59 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2182653</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10980</id>
        <name>Blueicus</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2183249</id>
      <content>civet cats are related to mongoose.  i doubt they taste anything like venison, lol.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jan 12 22:14:57 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2182178</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>30273</id>
        <name>hotoynoodle</name>
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    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2183288</id>
      <content>How about preparing Civet Civet?

http://www.slate.com/id/2093538/</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jan 12 22:26:42 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2183249</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16490</id>
        <name>Bostonbob3</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2183325</id>
      <content>That's awesome - hilarious!</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jan 12 22:37:52 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2183288</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>42270</id>
        <name>HaagenDazs</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2185791</id>
      <content>I knew that they ate civet cat in Asia, but I was unaware until now of the Continental cooking techqnique called "civet."

One learns something new every day....</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 13 20:53:54 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2183288</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>51367</id>
        <name>Yaqo Homo</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2183262</id>
      <content>Actually, Civet is an old school French soup thickened with animal blood.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jan 12 22:18:51 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2182178</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>59817</id>
        <name>dublix</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2183277</id>
      <content>AND a cooking/marinade technique for game, which I think applies more to a dish called "Venison Civet."</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jan 12 22:23:56 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2183262</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16490</id>
        <name>Bostonbob3</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2183310</id>
      <content>A traditional "Civet" is a soup that is thickened by the animals blood. If it does not use the animals blood as a thickening agent, technically, it is not called a "Civet". At least by French terms. I'm pretty damn sure Civet is not a marinade, or a cooking technique.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jan 12 22:33:01 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2183277</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>59817</id>
        <name>dublix</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2183307</id>
      <content>Actually, civet is a stew, not a soup, traditionally made from game (wild rabbit, wild boar, venison, etc.), pearl onions and lardons (bacon chunks). The braising liquid is typically red wine with some of the animal's blood being added as a thickener at the end.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jan 12 22:32:30 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2183262</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10520</id>
        <name>carswell</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2183335</id>
      <content>Stew, soup, drink, game, or chicken. It can't be called civet if its not thickened with blood, that's I'll I'm getting at.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jan 12 22:39:53 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2183307</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>59817</id>
        <name>dublix</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>2183365</id>
      <content>You'll find that most civet in France is no longer thickened with blood.  Certainly most of what I had wasn't -- and it was typically civet de lapin.

I suppose some of the blood gets in because you're cooking meat (which contains blood, unless it's been kashered, unlikely in French cuisine), but it isn't typically added expr&#232;s.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jan 12 22:47:30 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2183335</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10811</id>
        <name>Das Ubergeek</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2183269</id>
      <content>Geez - along the same lines as Robert Lauriston...  too many meanings for one word!</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jan 12 22:20:10 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2182178</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>42270</id>
        <name>HaagenDazs</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2183741</id>
      <content>So I'm guessing that the stew is pronounced "see-VAY" -- correct?</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 13 00:53:26 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2182178</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>34704</id>
        <name>Luwak</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2183782</id>
      <content>Yes.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 13 01:08:22 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2183741</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10811</id>
        <name>Das Ubergeek</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2184928</id>
      <content>Thanks for the clarification. I'm relieved (and admittedly, a bit disappointed) that I won't be trying any anal scent glands any time soon.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 13 15:30:35 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2182178</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>52423</id>
        <name>Kasumeat</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2261986</id>
      <content>LOL!!! try google sweet heart!  You are making yourself look like an anal scent gland!!!!!</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 05 13:28:55 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2182178</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>71940</id>
        <name>dinner4one</name>
      </user>
    </post>
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