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Fleur Jan 6, 2007 11:18 PM

To the recently closed PALMIRA in the North Heights, and KAPODOKYA on Montague Street, add MICHAEL'S STEAK on Clark Street. All closed up and newspaper on the windows.

New restaurants LE PETIT MARCHE on Henry Street looks crowded. AFICIANADA and MAESTRO along the same block, fairly empty.

Has anyone tried these?

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  1. lambretta76 RE: Fleur Jan 7, 2007 03:42 PM

    I'm actually slightly saddened by Kapodokya's closing - it was fairly solid Turkish food (at least the mezze) and probbaly the best restaurant on Montague. (That's not saying much, though.) And the waiters were always friendly and there with a free glass of raki or two.

    On the other hand - Michael's made it, what three months. That spot is certainly cursed - it's been like three restaurants in the past year.

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    1. re: lambretta76
      Steve R RE: lambretta76 Jan 7, 2007 04:12 PM

      Dont get too sad yet. It looks like all they did was reorganize. There's a sign in the window that says a newly named Turkish restaurant ("Taze"?) is opening there and the phrase "under new management" on the sign makes it seem very likely that there's a relationship between the two.

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        Stella RE: Steve R Feb 17, 2007 09:32 AM

        Yeah, I've been to Taze and it is pretty much Kapadokya renamed (with the prices dropped a little and a slightly nicer decor, both good things).

        The only thing I could tell that was different is that the "Kapadokya Special" is gone from the menu, which is sad because I liked that dish!

    2. driggs RE: Fleur Jan 7, 2007 04:52 PM

      Michaels "Kosher" Steakhouse was a sure loser.

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        Fleur RE: Fleur Jan 8, 2007 04:00 AM

        How is LE PETIT MARCHE? The menu looks interesting.

        1. Peter RE: Fleur Jan 8, 2007 11:05 PM

          Wow. And now there are reports of Pig'n'Out (the BBQ place on Henry) closing up.

          8 days in and it's been a ROUGH year for Brooklyn Heights restaurants.

          (First reported here: http://brooklynheightsblog.com/archiv...



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          1. re: Peter
            Fleur RE: Peter Jan 9, 2007 07:03 AM

            Thanks for the heads up. It can now be definitely confirmed as a trend.

            PIGnOUT was pretty awful, as far as the food goes.

            I think the lesson to be learned, which never seems to sink in, is that a place with excellent food at reasonable prices succeeds. Places that try and cut corners don't.

            1. re: Fleur
              mdog RE: Fleur Jan 9, 2007 02:21 PM

              I agree. It's a shame- this neighborhood is capable of so much more. Hopefully this will be a wake up call to whoever moves into those empty spaces to actually care about their food.

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                CobblerNYC RE: Fleur Jan 10, 2007 04:05 PM

                PignOut wasn't awful. Wasn't great, but definitely not awful. The beef ribs came close to good, and sides were better than average. I hope it sticks around.

                1. re: CobblerNYC
                  Fleur RE: CobblerNYC Jan 12, 2007 06:57 AM

                  After you have been spoiled by GOODE BARBQ in Houston, PIGnOUT is vile.

                  Don't you wish there were a terrific place for BarbQ in the City?

            2. Peter RE: Fleur Jan 9, 2007 05:48 PM

              While we're talking BH places in general, has anyone been to Jack the Horse Tavern lately?

              I went their 2nd week or so and... well, I guess the fact that I haven't been back says a lot. I live between Remsen and Joralemon so if I walk that far north I'll likely end up at Noodle Pudding or Five Front. More likely though I'll head south to Chestnut or some other destination on Smith St.

              So, does anyone go there regularly? Does anyone walk by regularly and see the place hopping? They're trying hard -- I want them to thrive.

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                mimisusu RE: Peter Jan 9, 2007 05:57 PM

                I ate at Henry's end a few days ago; packed per ususal, and good, though the service stunk. Walked past Petit Marche, and the menu did look good. At 7 ish it was crowded. The other places, Aficionada etc were empty. Now, that says something because there should be a spill over from Noodle Pudding--which at 6:30 had no seats left--and Henry's End, which was also full. I can't, knowing what I know about the owner and his contempt for food, actually set foot in those places.
                I guess Petit Marche's next on the list. Why can't there be one decent place in the Heights, good atmosphere, not stuffy, fresh food, not pretentious? I don't get it.

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                  bitterwaitress RE: mimisusu Mar 16, 2007 03:53 PM

                  Possibly because it's an unforgiving neighborhood that, like the Upper West Side, wants 2 star food at take out prices. Also likely is the fact that one person's bustling bistro is another person's noisy, crowded hell.

                2. re: Peter
                  Steve R RE: Peter Jan 9, 2007 07:05 PM

                  Been there once for drinks and once for a full dinner. Nice enough place with very friendly staff/owners. Unfortunately, it didn't appeal to me enough to return. If anyone asked me to join them there, I wouldnt hesitate but, when I myself think of local places to go, I find that I dont have much interest in Jack the Horse. The food was fine, the wine list okay for the price point, but the word that comes to mind is "comfortable". By the way, I pretty much feel the same way about 5 Front. For the money, I'd rather be at Henry's End, Noodle Pudding, Chestnut...

                  1. re: Peter
                    Claudia RE: Peter Jan 12, 2007 02:32 AM

                    I agree with other posters -- Noodle Pudding and Henry's End are definitely the best in the nabe. However, if you like burgers, you must go back to Jack the Horse. I think their burger is amazing! I order it medium rare, and the meat is always tasty and juicy. In fact, it is one of my favorite burgers in the city (I also like Burger Joint, Shake Shack, and Blue Smoke for burgers). Fries are good too. And I like the wines overall.

                    I also tried La Petite Marche recently, but I don't feel inclined to rush back. It was OK, but nothing seemed quite as tasty as it sounded. Also the wine list is one of the most unimaginative I've seen in ages, and they hardly had any french wine, which seems odd given the menu. Nothing but big corporate producers. The french onion soup is made with chicken stock, and that tells you something about the level of the food right there.

                    I used to cook a lot but these days I am too busy, that's why I have to make the rounds of all the neighborhood restaurants so often. Won't be setting foot in Food Maestro or Aficionada though. I don't even understand why they bothered. Are they fronts for some kind of money laundering/tax scam?

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                    guest RE: Fleur Jan 17, 2007 11:28 PM

                    Monty Q's just got shut down by the Board of Health -- good riddance,

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                      mdog RE: guest Jan 17, 2007 11:32 PM

                      Geez- this place wasn't THAT bad. I feel it was one of the better spots on Mediocre Montague. Bummer.

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                        Fleur RE: guest Jan 18, 2007 09:26 AM

                        Surprising about MONTYQ. They are owned by the same family that owns LASSEN & HENNIG and COURT ORDER. They own the building so maybe they will be back.

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                          bklyngrl RE: guest Jan 21, 2007 09:35 PM

                          Reopened, just walked by today. Heard they had 56 health dept. violations, hence the complete shutdown. Guess they took care of it.

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                          midasw RE: Fleur Jan 19, 2007 11:57 PM

                          I go to Jack the Horse with some frequency. I've been eating New York restaurants for some 50 years now, places where you have to float a bond issue to pay the bill, places where $5 does you well. What is remarkable about Jack the Horse is that it is the only restaurant in all my experience where, every time I've been there, every plate has been licked clean! I mean: clean! The room isn't fancy, the service - as in any relatively new place - can be momentarily vexing - but the food is tasty, and just what people want to eat: down to the last scrap, shred, drop and grain. Such places are not easy to find.

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                            Fleur RE: midasw Jan 20, 2007 08:45 AM

                            I find JACK the HORSE to be an OK place, kind of attractive, with acceptable food, but nothing special.

                            There are three really good restaurants in the same price range as JtheH with far better food. Just a few blocks away are HENRY'S END, NOODLE PUDDING and LE PETIT MARCHE. I think you get a far better burger and fries at HEIGHT'S CAFE for less money. For what it is, I think JtheH is overpriced.

                            1. re: Fleur
                              Steve R RE: Fleur Jan 20, 2007 01:37 PM

                              I agree with Fleur on this one, although Noodle Pudding is (thankfully) less money for excellent food. I've been to Jack the Horse and liked it, but wouldn't call it better than "ok" either. As for Le Petit Marche, I think we should all use the same caution as we do before panning a new place that isn't doing well and not give it too many accolades before seeing if it settles in and continues at this high level. While rushing out and taking advantage of it now, of course :-)

                              1. re: Fleur
                                Peter RE: Fleur Jan 20, 2007 03:29 PM

                                Actually, I think the better burger is to be had at The Henry Street Ale House. ;)

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                              mimisusu RE: Fleur Feb 1, 2007 07:15 AM

                              I've been eating regularly at Taze, because it seems really, really fresh and clean. I've had several apps, including baba, and humus, and everything's in order. The heavyweight champion of Montague, which is saying almost nothing, but there it is.

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                                jmh RE: Fleur Feb 17, 2007 07:08 AM

                                Walked by Aficionada last night, and the tables and chairs had been taken out. It looks like the appliances are out in the dining room. Did that actually close even more quickly than Mike's?

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                                1. re: jmh
                                  Peter RE: jmh Feb 17, 2007 08:02 AM

                                  Nah, Mike's opened afterward and closed some time ago. I really do think Mike's set an all-time record.

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                                  Fleur RE: Fleur Mar 16, 2007 05:38 PM

                                  They have all gone byebye.

                                  The great news for the neighborhood, and for those who love good French cooking, LE PETIT MARCHE is better than ever. Every meal we have had there has been terrific. The owner and his wife are charming, the service is professional, the room is warm and attractive, and the food and wine are excellent.

                                  Classic French Bourgeois cooking. Excellent in every way.

                                  I can't wait to go back again.

                                  BTW, their Burger and Frites is the best around.

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                                    Fleur RE: Fleur Apr 13, 2007 01:29 AM

                                    UPDATE ::

                                    MARKET CAFE, downstairs on the corner of Montague and Clinton has closed.

                                    MR SOUVLAKI (RIP) will soon be a Dentist's Office.

                                    There is a charming article on LE PETIT MARCHE in the latest Brooklyn Heights Press. The food is wonderful every time we go. They are also doing Special Events . They held a wonderful Rehearsal Dinner Party there last week. Everything was just perfect. It couldn't have been a nice experience.

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                                    1. re: Fleur
                                      Peter RE: Fleur Apr 13, 2007 07:09 AM

                                      Market Cafe might (might, I don't know for a fact) have gone away because of the condo conversion in the building above them. I can see how people living there would want a different kind of tenant in their building.

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                                        Marion Morgenthal RE: Fleur Apr 13, 2007 07:17 AM

                                        Our experience at Le Petit Marche didn't match yours. Everything we had was...okay. If I lived around the corner and just didn't feel like cooking, it would be fine, but there was nothing in our meal that would entice us for an encore. It was about 2 weeks ago, and I can't even remember what we ordered--which kind of sums up the whole experience.

                                        1. re: Marion Morgenthal
                                          Fleur RE: Marion Morgenthal Apr 13, 2007 01:24 PM

                                          Sorry you has such a mediocre experience.

                                          We have had dinner there 6 or 7 times, and each time it has been wonderful.

                                          I love French Bourgeois cooking; it is like Soul Food for me. I know it is not everyone's tasse du the. The Veal Shank with White Bean Ragout is wonderful, the Organic Chicken with Gratin of Cauliflower was wonderful, some of the Fish specials, the Confit, the Cassoulet, were all really good. We also like the desserts. Very authentic French, and well prepared. The Tarte Tatin is the best I've had in NY, and the Crepe with Apples was excellent...paper thin crepes, fresh sauteed apples, home made caramel.

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