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Hal Burger going?

OnDaGo Jan 3, 2007 04:11 PM

Just saw a posting on a realestate website that Hal Burger restaurant is for sale (but not the name)....

http://www.icx.ca/PropertyDetails.asp...

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    paper_bag_princess RE: OnDaGo Jan 3, 2007 04:28 PM

    Well that place didn't last long...

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      deelicious RE: paper_bag_princess Jan 3, 2007 04:32 PM

      Exactly as per my prediction !!!! Will be great to see them gone!

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        torontoeh RE: deelicious Jan 3, 2007 11:55 PM

        Yea me too! LOL
        http://www.chowhound.com/topics/show/...

    2. Cereal Killer RE: OnDaGo Jan 4, 2007 06:12 PM

      Nice catch.

      1. Googs RE: OnDaGo Jan 5, 2007 12:58 AM

        One little thing. They're not closing. They're moving. Phew. You guys had me worried.

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          deelicious RE: Googs Jan 5, 2007 01:14 AM

          Hopefully they make some serious changes if they really do move and not just close down!

          They should...
          1) serve juicier burgers
          2) serve tastier burgers
          3) serve a quality bun with the burgers
          4) re-assess the need to charge so much for a properly dressed burger and fries and drink!!!!!

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            food face RE: deelicious Jan 5, 2007 01:26 AM

            You guys are serious food snobs. Don't dis the Hal burger. I found their burger was juicy fresh and home made friggen condoments. Who can beat that. Their lamb burger was served with mint and mango chutney and it was outstanding. Sure it's more expensive but you get what you pay for. They butcher and grind the meat on site so it is exceedingly fresh and tasty.

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              badbhoy RE: food face Jan 5, 2007 01:39 AM

              Uh...If you feel the need to eat a $15 lamb burger with mint and mango chutney, I don't know if you should call others a food snob. :)

              I've noticed a trend with high-end places serving kitsch low-end dishes, dress them up, jack up the price, and then everyone raves about how it was the best mac and cheese, burger, meat loaf, etc. they have ever had.

              I bet Hal burgers are good but I could make a better one at home I'm sure if I bought a pound of ground beef. Maybe it's just me but when I eat out I prefer to experiment with something I would find difficult to make myself.

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                deelicious RE: food face Jan 5, 2007 01:53 AM

                Sorry food face I wasn't dissing the lamb burger as I have never had it. I am dissing the beef burger. It absolutely sucks compared to a Shanghai Cowgirl burger for less money. And I really dont like their watery tasteless home-made ketchup, nor do I like paying for ketchup.

                I am not a food snob. I want flavour, preparation, quality to equal price-point. Yes my standard for a burger is set high. Because like badbhoy said, I can make awesome burgers at home. Shanghai has a juicy charcoally burger. Epicure has a great burger. Liberty a great tasty burger. Even the somewhat average burger at Gladstone is better than Hals.

                If Hal actually does move, I will try their new location....with all fingers crossed!

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                  Yongeman RE: deelicious Jan 5, 2007 11:45 AM

                  What's all this about being able to make awesome food at home? I can too, but lots of people can't, won't, can't be bothered, or prefer to pay the prices when eating out. Look at steak-house prices compared to what you might pay for the meat. Steak from my home bbq is excellent and a whole lot cheaper than dining out.
                  Plus, I like Hal Burgers. I haven't tried all of the others mentioned, though.

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                    deelicious RE: Yongeman Jan 5, 2007 12:55 PM

                    You missed my point. I expect a burger offered by a resto that ONLY SELLS PREMIUM PRICED BURGERS to be excellent. My standard is set by what I can easily make at home with no fuss and what other restos in the city offer. I am not comparing costs of home vs resto. I am not suggesting that you shouldnt eat out. I eat out 10-14 meals a week! I am simply saying IMO that Hal's sucks both for the money and for the satisfaction.

                    If you look at the postings you will see that Torontonians WANT a great burger in the city. So why is it that Hal's sits empty most of the time? Why is it that they cant support the location?

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            mickeyj RE: OnDaGo Jan 5, 2007 12:00 PM

            I'm in the No-to-Hal camp. I have the same complaints as deelicious and probably won't try the new place. There are too many other restaurants (and burgers) to try.

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              deelicious RE: mickeyj Jan 5, 2007 01:01 PM

              Yea I hear ya. But I just want to hope it can be good. I tried it two times shortly after they opened and decided to never ever go back. If they can pick up and re-locate (which would shock me) I will give them another shot.

            2. andreas RE: OnDaGo Jan 5, 2007 01:09 PM

              Tried Hal once, didn't find them tasty enough to return. There are many better burgers available in the city. Eggplant on King East make a great burger, so does the Beer Bistro, especially the cheese burger with stout infused aged cheddar.

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                Zengarden RE: OnDaGo Jan 6, 2007 05:40 PM

                Had Hal's the other day and liked it, didn't love it. The waiters were attentive and the service prompt. The other people who came in all looked like happy regulars.

                Too bad the participants on this thread couldn't come together to do a hamburger cookoff. It sounds like we've all got the skills and the know how to do a proper burger and circumvent the high cost.

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                  badbhoy RE: Zengarden Jan 6, 2007 07:03 PM

                  Has anyone tried the Yellow Griffin Pub? I see their ads on the subway all the time and I know they have a great variety of burgers.

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                    deelicious RE: badbhoy Jan 6, 2007 07:13 PM

                    found this http://www.chowhound.com/topics/show/...

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                      hungryabbey RE: badbhoy Jan 6, 2007 07:25 PM

                      i have only been once, and yes, I had a great burger. I would LOVE to go again and try all their other burgers since there are sooo many interesting soudning ones, however, the service was so discustingly bad, i truly coudlnt believe it. I almost went behind the bar myself to pour myself a drink.

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                    flashy_mcflash RE: OnDaGo Jan 15, 2007 01:19 PM

                    Went to HAL's on Friday and they're not closing, just looking for a new location with better foot traffic during the day (can't really blame them).

                    They'll remain open until they find a new spot. Woo!

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                      Aardvark RE: flashy_mcflash Jan 15, 2007 02:04 PM

                      Good to hear. I've generally enjoyed Hal Burgers although I haven't been in a while. I'm still looking for the perfect burger and I don't think Hal is it but I would be disappointed if they closed.

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                        cream RE: Aardvark Jan 15, 2007 03:03 PM

                        I am also glad to hear that they are only moving. Their burgers are great and so are the salads. I for one am looking forward to my next meal there!

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                          flashy_mcflash RE: Aardvark Jan 15, 2007 03:50 PM

                          One more vote for the Yellow Griffin Pub. For sheer variety alone, you probably have a better shot at "the perfect burger". I think they have something in the neighborhood of 50 variations, and each of those can be made with chicken, beef, or (if I recall) lamb.

                          If anything, I would've missed HAL for those butter tarts alone. They are to die for.

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                        GuyNamedBen RE: OnDaGo Jul 24, 2007 08:32 AM

                        Looks like HAL Burger has finally bit the dust! It was closed when I walked by yesterday. On their website was posted the following message: "To all HAL Burger patrons and friends, it with some sadness and a bit of regret that we have had to cease operation. On behalf of the staff and management, we would like to thank all who have supported us over the last 18 months. We are proud and hold our heads high. The immediate future is unclear, but HAL Burgers could possibly rise again." Not a great loss IMHO. I really wasn't really impressed by them. Does anyone know the REAL reason for the closing?

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                          basileater RE: GuyNamedBen Jul 24, 2007 09:03 AM

                          Wow. Can't say I'm surprised, judging from the comments here. But what DOES surprise me is that a poster above felt the need to use the word "friggen" in his/her description of the condiments. That I find utterly unbelieveable.

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                            embee RE: GuyNamedBen Jul 24, 2007 09:24 AM

                            Too high rent, too high prices, too low quality. Ergo, too little business.

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