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Sad News: Best Value Glatt Kosher Market Closing, January 5

I was so sad when a Philadelphia friend who also shops there told me this. She asked the owners why they were closing, and was told the competition from the supermarkets was responsible. In other words, places like Kosher Experience had siphoned off so much business there wasn't enough left for them to make a living.

I don't even keep Kosher in my home, but I relied upon them for food to buy, so my daughter could visit and eat in my home, on paper, etc, etc. I also bought certain cuts of meat that I just felt were head and shoulders ahead of the quality I could buy anywhere else that I didn't mind paying a premium, even though it was for my own use.

Any suggestions for Glatt Kosher meats and prepared food in the Philadelphia area,to meet the highest standards, which my daughter insists upon? And please don't tell me Kosher Experience, because I'm a little bummed out about them right now.

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  1. sadly, stores such as this, and kosher restaurants, will close down if Jews do not support them. We owe it to our own community to regularly go to these places, not just now and again whether we keep kosher or not.

    I realise it is price determined. A jar of Manishewitz Gefilte Fish is obviously going to be cheaper at the supermarket than a kosher store.

    1. Yes, it is very short sighted for observant Jews to get into the habit of doing most of their shopping in big box stores, no matter how nice or convenient.

      What I left out was how kind, how helpful the management of this store was to all. It was a pleasure to shop there for top quality foods, whether fresh meat, deli meat, prepared food, or canned goods. I for one did not mind paying a little more.

      1. There is another side to the story.... a place which really provides good service and keeps up to date with the needs of the community rarely closes. Often places continue to close on SUnday afternoons because in the old days nobody shopped then, and don't sell newer foods because "nobody kosher eats that kiond of stuff" and are very nice to the regular customers but not welcoming to others. And then they wonder why sales are down. The fact is that with higher rents and supermarkets discovering the "strictly" kosher business and Rubashkin and others selling prepacked fresh meat... the odds are against the small operators. But it all started with the big kosher supervisions endorsing mass market products.
        On balance, we, the kosher consumers, need the convenience of supermarkets and mass-market products.....because of our lifestyle, and there is no getting away from the realities of the situation

        1. I was pricing a specific cut of meat at various places. I looked at two non-kosher places that carry kosher meat, the meat was similarly priced. Then I looked at my local kosher store -- priced so much higher than the others I almost couldn't believe it. A huge difference. Sorry, but I just can't afford to support them if their markup is so high. Also, I find that many of the options offered at my local kosher markets are just not contemporary, in terms of what's available. For instance, baked goods. I can get decent kosher items at local gourmet non-Jewish places or kosher bakeries. The treats offered at the kosher stores are just loaded with chemicals and shortening, and taste like cardboard with sweetened goo, not actual cake or cookies. I'm not sure why this is the case -- maybe the local kosher store is more stringent about certification than I, maybe they just order from certain companies and won't branch out. Either way, I can't afford to be responsible to keep them in business, as much as I like to support the little guy. I shop at our local kosher stores sometimes, but am much more likely to get many items elsewhere.

          1. I certainly didn't mean to start a controversy, but I sense what a complex issue this is.

            The store to which I refer, Best Value Kosher Market in N. E. Philadelphia was one with excellent customer service to all. They were certainly most gracious and accomodating to me, an obviously not frum woman in my slacks and bare sleeves in the summer. And I thought their pricing was most fair. In any case, the quality of their deli for example fully justified a higher price. They were open on Sundays; they provided many a Kosher pre-cooked feast for Thanksgiving and other family occasions for my family.

            I guess I'm kinda mourning their passing, but can understand what happened. For the long hours, they just weren't making enough money. And, people in the community just didn't see it coming. A great loss.

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            1. re: Bashful3

              Where in the Philadelphia area is there a kosher butcher. I have been using Shoprites "Kosher Experience" since Best Value closed, but find that they really do not have the variety, quality, or quantity of meat that I am used to seeing at a butcher shop.

              1. re: joaniesl

                It been years since we lived there, but the web site always seems up to date, I know NOTHING about this place except that if the Vaad lists it, the kashrus is good.

                From:
                http://www.philly-direct.com/frum/vaa...

                Itzik Glatt Kosher Meats & Deli
                7614 Castor Ave., Philadelphia, PA 19152
                (between Napfle & Glendale
                )215-722-4400

                1. re: vallevin

                  Thanks! I shall give them a try.

            2. I miss Ira's place.The old style kosher meat and deli is a dying breed. Only two places I know are left in the Philly area are Simon's on Busleton and Mainline Kosher Meats on Montgomery Bayla Cynwyd

              1. While in Philly this past Sunday with my pitcrew for a BBQ pop-up a the Torah Academy of Greater Philadelphia, we found ourselves running dangerously low on a few small items, corn tortillas for the tacos, key lime juice, ice, etc and the locals directed me to the "GIANT" marketplace around the corner. I was dumbstruck when walking in to see an entire full service kosher butcher and bakery as well as 2 full isles dedicated to strictly kosher items. It was a better selection then the majority of NYC stores. Here is the info for the store I went to...I am told that they have 2 of them.

                Giant Wynnewood:
                Wynnewood Shopping Center
                (Behind Bed Bath & Beyond)
                50 East Wynnewood road
                Wynnewood, PA 19096
                (610)642-5206

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                1. re: gotcholent

                  As a reference point for those in New England, NY and NJ. Giant is the sister division to Stop and Shop owned by Royal Ahold (For Pennsylvania area).
                  Wish they could put in such kosher operations here.

                  1. re: bagelman01

                    They did just that at ave Y and east 17 in sheepshead bay when was called finast---- about 21 yrs ago!!!! ahold did not do their marketing research as the area did not warrant such a kosher experience type store.These days frum yidden only go there yontif time to buy $2.99 kedem 64 oz grape juice!!!!

                  2. re: gotcholent

                    I live one block from TA - you were directed to the right place! We are really lucky to have such a good kosher supermarket option w/Giant. IMHO, I really like buying Israeli foods - both the company and the item - bourekas, yogurt, dips, spices, kibbutz jam etc. They just put in a whole refridge case of parve birthday cakes!