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You are banished to an island...

grocerytrekker Dec 29, 2006 12:08 AM

...and you are given unlimited supply of 5 different tasty ingredients plus 1 extra condiment/spice. You will have plenty of water. (Let's not complicate this by thinking about cooking utensils or methods, or how to preserve the food!) What will you take? Reasoning?

1) Something rich in protein (foie gras? otoro?)
2) Something rich in sugar or carbohydrates (Acme bread? Yukon gold?)
3) Oil or fat or dairy (heavy cream? olive oil?)
4) A fruit (raspberry? mango?)
5) And a vegetable (swiss chard? seaweed?)

(Added after RiJaAr posted)
Your dream food. Also the assumption is that you'd be eating any combination of these, and nothing else. No way to catch your own fish, or pick coconuts, for example.

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    SDgirl Dec 31, 2006 06:34 AM

    I was giggling as I read these posts. We Americans are so practical that it's difficult to really let loose sometimes. I think grocerytrekker was asking us to put aside all practical considerations (such as long-term health) and go for no-holds-barred dream foods. Here goes:

    1) Protein - organic, prime grade rib eye roast from Wagyu cattle raised in Kobe
    2) Carb - hand made, artisanal Tuscan pastas made with organic, heirloom variety wheat and eggs that came from semi-wild, bug eating chickens
    3) Oil - organic, stone milled, cold-pressed, extra virgin olive oil from olives grown on a Tuscan farm and hand picked by Tuscan peasants
    4) Fruit - juicy, luscious, sweet-as-sugar white nectarines
    5) Vegetable - broccoli rabe

    Condiment - garlic, preferrably the mauve-skinned hard neck variety

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      tnword Dec 31, 2006 07:02 AM

      In the spirit of SDGirl's response, I would pick foods, not animals or plants:

      1) Sirloin--versatile enough to make roasts, steaks and ground beef.

      2) Basmati Rice.

      3) Olive Oil--I prefer Spanish.

      4) Beefsteak tomatoes.

      5) Mango.

      Spice would be the toughest call, but I would have to go with chiles, cayenne to be specific. I would miss garlic, but I don't think I could go without heat.

      1. re: SDgirl
        grocerytrekker Dec 31, 2006 07:15 AM

        Thank you, SDgirl.

      2. cayjohan Dec 31, 2006 03:25 AM

        1) As so many before me, I laud the pig. Very useful in all its parts.
        2) I'd have to go with an unrefined rice, for the nutrients.And for the possibilities of flour should I make a mortar and pestle.
        3) Olive oil, if unending, would be great.
        4) Scurvy...yes, lemons all the way. Especially with pork.
        5) Tough one. I'd hope for myriad seeds in the hold of the ship. Barring that, I'd want some broccoli, or other dark green, for calcium, since the diet is a bit lacking in that nutrient (if one chooses oil over dairy), and I can't (per rules) catch and stew fish to get it.

        My condiment would be garlic, for its flavor as well as for its antibiotic properties.

        Can I still collect seaweed?

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        1. re: cayjohan
          grocerytrekker Dec 31, 2006 07:24 AM

          Seaweed is tempting, but we will be entering a slippery slope. Nope, salt, fresh water, that's it.

        2. orangewasabi Dec 30, 2006 02:39 PM

          1) Something rich in protein >> can't beat the pig for this one, bacon if I had to narrow it down.
          2) Something rich in sugar or carbohydrates >> brown rice, for sure
          3) Oil or fat or dairy >> an old chedder cheese
          4) A fruit >> lemons (though spades is right, tomatoes would be way more versitile)
          5) And a vegetable >> mushrooms

          And if I already get salt, I'd pick either chilis or garlic or onions. That's a hard one. Maybe I'll trdae the mushrooms for the onion and take the chili as my spice.

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            piccola Dec 29, 2006 11:57 PM

            I'd bring:

            1- soy: so many things you can make with it, on top of eating the beans
            2- wheat: I like rice better, but I can't live without bread
            3- milk: I was going to say yogurt, but I can make that out of the milk
            4- grapes: great as is, plus I could make wine, vinegar, and raisins
            5- greens: I don't care which ones, as long as they work both raw and cooked

            For a condiment, it's a tough call between sugar and salt. In fact, I can't pick...

            1. soypower Dec 29, 2006 01:21 PM

              1) rice
              2) salmon
              3) chicken
              4) kimchee (according to my parents, i should be able to survive on just rice and kimchee)
              5) oranges (i fear scurvy)

              does garlic count as a spice?

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                birddog Dec 29, 2006 02:12 AM

                I'm with spades on the pork.

                1) one never-ending, magical PIG
                2) potatoes
                3) spinach
                4) mango
                5) red wine

                black pepper

                (I was tempted to ask for a pig, a chicken, and a cow, potatoes, and red wine. forget the vegetables. that's my second choice then. never ending ingredients suggest that I'd be there for a while, and just think of how cool it would be to have an au poivre steak with frites there on your own island, right on the beach, then eggs benedict for breakfast (sans muffin)...

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                  RiJaAr Dec 29, 2006 04:15 PM

                  how would you get eggs benedict from your ingredients tho??

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                    birddog Dec 30, 2006 04:13 PM

                    well, a modified eggs benedict, of course. assuming that I'd be there for a while, I was allowing for development of secondary ingredients (milk, butter, cheese, bacon, eggs...) -- is it cheating to wait around for the chicken (or hen) to lay eggs? I was building off of my second (unofficial) request for animals, potatoes, and red wine. the hollandaise might be tricky though. Is there enough vitamin C in red wine to stave off scurvy??

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                  MobyRichard Dec 29, 2006 01:55 AM

                  1) Rice (flour, noodles)
                  2) Pair of goats (cheese, milk, meat, gelato!)
                  3) Honey (literally stays pure for thousands of years)
                  4) Apples
                  5) Asparagus
                  condiment: Moroccan preserved lemons (no scurvy)

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                  1. re: MobyRichard
                    grocerytrekker Dec 29, 2006 02:14 AM

                    It is interesting to note that our answers would change depending on how long we think we'd be there.

                    1 day
                    1 week
                    1 month
                    1 year
                    For a lifetime

                  2. spades Dec 29, 2006 01:32 AM

                    1) A whole pig
                    2) Potatoes (also makes flour possible)
                    3) Milk (I wouldn't take oil because I could probably derive enough fat from the pig for oil-related purposes). Milk also makes cheese possible.
                    4) Tomatoes
                    5) Onions
                    Spice: Pepper (Not salt because I can use the lard from the pork meat to salt other dishes, so I wouldn't take that)

                    I think that I could make probably hundreds of dishes with those ingredients alone.

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                    1. re: spades
                      grocerytrekker Dec 29, 2006 01:41 AM

                      Smart, sensible choices!

                      Don't you just hate more stupid rules?
                      Sorry, but here it goes. You can't get anything out of the ocean, but you can use the sea water. It would be really dumb not to allow this much. So, you have sea salt. So you don't have to worry about rationing it...

                      Recap: Yes, you have fresh water. Yes, you have salt. That's pretty much it.

                      1. re: grocerytrekker
                        spades Dec 29, 2006 01:50 AM

                        OK, I already changed my mind about the fruit. I would rather take grapes (and make wine). I'll need a good buzz to make it through this ordeal.

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                          MobyRichard Dec 29, 2006 12:58 PM

                          I can make wine out of the rice too.

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                      RiJaAr Dec 29, 2006 12:28 AM

                      1)some chickens (live) so i can have fresh eggs AND some fresh meat
                      2)rice
                      3)a bushel of vegetable seeds (so i can plant a garden)
                      4)peaches and plums (i can also plant the pits)
                      5)chocolate (no explanation needed)

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                      1. re: RiJaAr
                        grocerytrekker Dec 29, 2006 12:38 AM

                        Good answers - but will you choose differently if you were told the supply will somehow never run out? What I had in mind was the best tasting food (dream food) under the circumstances. And I added 1 extra condiment/spice while you were writing, I think. One last thing - is it going to be peaches or plums? You can't have both!

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                          RiJaAr Dec 29, 2006 01:28 AM

                          ok, for taste only i would have to go with
                          1) peaches
                          2) butter
                          3) chicken
                          4) rice (basmati or jasmine)
                          5) (only one veggie?????)swiss chard

                          for my spice i think... hot peppers, or sea salt.
                          simple food but still my favorites, and you can prepare all of that lots of ways can't you?

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