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Gingerbread cake with Guinness!

wyf4lyf Dec 28, 2006 10:08 PM

I'm in the process of making a recipe for Gingerbread Cake that uses Guinness Stout as part of the recipe...and dark molasses, dark brown sugar, along with 2T ginger and other spices. It sounds really intriguing. It's a drizzly, cold (for us) day here in AZ, and something warm, dark and spicy sounded perfect for this evening.

I'll report after the cake is baked and tasted...but just curious if anyone has ever made a cake with beer before? I've certainly used it for braising meats, in stews, etc...but never a dessert!

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    Canada Eats RE: wyf4lyf Dec 28, 2006 10:28 PM

    I've made Nigella Lawson's chocolate Guinness cake for a birthday and it turned out great (as with all her cakes I've tried). Although I have to admit, I had trouble tasting the difference from other chocolate cakes I've had, but the birthday boy was thrilled and claimed he could taste the beer. Since he considers himself a Guinness connoiseur, I left it at that.

    If you want to take a look at Nigella's recipe, I think you can just google it- it ran in the New York Times a while back. It's likely up on her site as well.

    Good luck and let us know how it turned out.

    - Lea

    1. Candy RE: wyf4lyf Dec 28, 2006 10:32 PM

      Claudia Fleming's Guiness Stout Cake at Epicurious is delicious. It also has grated fresh ginger in it.

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        JGrey RE: Candy Dec 28, 2006 11:01 PM

        If that's the Gramercy Tavern one, I made it too. I love molasses, so I loved this cake. It's very dense and sticky.

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          wyf4lyf RE: JGrey Dec 28, 2006 11:47 PM

          Yup...that's the one. The smell wafting through the house while the cake was baking was heavenly! It unmolded perfectly, and is cooling on the counter. Can't wait to cut into it!

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            JGrey RE: wyf4lyf Dec 28, 2006 11:52 PM

            Next time I make it, I think I'll experiment with plain whipped cream and lemon curd on top. Eat the first piece plain, though. :)

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              JudiAU RE: JGrey Dec 29, 2006 03:49 AM

              I served the dessert at Christmas with lemon curd and it was a nice companion. Next time I might try an apple butter.

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            Candy RE: JGrey Dec 28, 2006 11:53 PM

            It is and is also published in her book The Last Course

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              Emme RE: JGrey Dec 31, 2006 07:12 AM

              I make the Gramercy Gingerbread (not the cake), and instead of doing it in a bundt, I bake it in two loaf pans, which maximizes the gooey, sticky top surface area. And the best part is that it's naturally lactose free (for those of us that have friends that are lactose intolerant and love sweets)!

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            ElissaInPlaya RE: wyf4lyf Dec 28, 2006 10:33 PM

            Yes! sounds very similar to a recipe I have. Don't overbake it; check carefully. Otherwise it will be dry. I like to serve it with vanilla ice cream and hot fudge sauce.

            1. Chowpatty RE: wyf4lyf Dec 28, 2006 11:01 PM

              I made the Claudia Fleming one and I was very excited, but I have to say while it was tasty, I wasn't completely blown away. Next time I would add a bit more fresh ginger and use regular Guinness -- I used Chocolate Stout, so maybe the flavor was different. It could use some hard sauce to perk it up.

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                rockycat RE: wyf4lyf Dec 29, 2006 12:41 AM

                I've made chocolate cookies using chocolate stout and cocoa nibs. I liked them quite a bit. And I know that the "chocolate" in chocolate stout refers to the roast, not the flavor, but it does nevertheless go great with chocolate.

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                  wonderwoman RE: rockycat Dec 30, 2006 11:52 PM

                  recipe please!

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                    rockycat RE: wonderwoman Dec 31, 2006 06:04 PM

                    Chocolate Stout Cookies

                    2 c. flour
                    1/2 c. cocoa
                    1/2 tsp. baking powder
                    1 1/2 sticks butter, melted & still warm
                    1 c. brown sugar
                    1/2 c. sugar
                    1 egg + 1 egg yolk
                    2 tsp. vanilla
                    3 Tbs. chocolate stout, at room temp.
                    1/4 - 1/2 c. cocoa nibs

                    Preheat oven to 325. Line baking sheets with parchment paper.
                    Whisk together flour, baking soda, and salt.
                    Beat together butter and sugars. Beat in egg, egg yolk, vanilla and stout until combined. Stir in dry ingredients just until combined. Gently stir in cocoa nibs to distribute.
                    Roll 1/4 c. dough into a ball. Pull ball into 2 halves. Rotate halves 90 degrees and with jagged surfaces facing up, join halves together at their base, again forming a ball. Don't smooth surface. Place dough balls on baking sheets approximately 2 1/2-inche apart.
                    Bake about 15-18 minutes until outer edges start to harden and centers are soft and puffy. Cool cookies on baking sheets.

                    Makes 18.

                    The nit-picky forming method comes from (where else?) Cook's magazine. I also have a handwritten note on the recipe saying "more flour." Since I haven't made these in a while I'm not entirely sure just how much more I thought the recipe needed.

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                      wonderwoman RE: rockycat Dec 31, 2006 07:24 PM

                      thanks -- not sure when i'll give these a try, as i need to work off the goodies i already made and sampled:) as for the forming method, i generally ignore then, and use a teaspoon. i hate cookies the size of a frisbee.

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                        rockycat RE: wonderwoman Jan 1, 2007 10:58 PM

                        They'll work at any size, of course. Just watch the baking time. I was trying for an oversized cookie this time. I don't think they endede up quite as oversized as I would have wanted.

                2. MaineRed RE: wyf4lyf Dec 29, 2006 03:21 AM

                  yeah there's also an amazing chocolate cake recipe from epicurious with beer as the secret ingredient...good stuff!

                  1. wyf4lyf RE: wyf4lyf Dec 29, 2006 03:36 AM

                    Thanks for all the comments. The cake was a huge success. I went over to epicurious to read reviews and was surprised by the comments that people had a hard time unmolding the cake. Mine came out of the bundt pan perfectly -- I used the PAM spray with flour, so maybe that was the trick. Anyway, the cake has a wonderful, deep flavor, and is very moist. I served it with whipped cream...but I agree some lemon curd with it would be wonderful.

                    1. AnneInMpls RE: wyf4lyf Dec 29, 2006 03:41 AM

                      I once made a Beer and Sauerkraut Fudge Cake from a recipe in my local paper (in a column by Al Sicherman, author of "Caramel Knowledge").

                      The cake was pretty good - you could kinda taste the beer, but not in a bad way, and everyone thought that the sauerkraut was coconut.

                      Here's a couple of recipes for this cake, in case anyone's curious:



                      But I've got to admit that the Guinness Gingerbread sounds much better.


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                        Diana RE: wyf4lyf Dec 29, 2006 03:45 AM

                        I did the same cake, but replaced the weak Guiness (we get stuff made in canada, so very wimpy compared to the Guiness the Irish drink!) with Firestone Walker's 2004 christmas ale. It was dang good! We waited a day to try it, of course, and it was moist and yummy.

                        I've also made a rich thick hocolate cake with a good chocolate porter.

                        I've braised lamb in beer, marinated fish in beer,boiled sausages in beer, made chili with beer, beer barbecue sauce, beer can chicken, like a lot of people.

                        Baking is my new beer expirimentation area. I also want to use malt syrup and wort to make a beer ice cream. I was thinking chocolate porter ice cream, framboise ice cream, lambic ice cream, and perhaps a balck forest stout ice cream.

                        Beer cupcakes sound good, too.

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                          mrsleny RE: Diana Dec 31, 2006 04:24 AM

                          Isn't Guinness in the tins imported?? I know the bottled stuff is made in Canada and it's horrible.

                        2. yayadave RE: wyf4lyf Dec 29, 2006 04:07 AM

                          I made this cake on Saturday to have ready for Christmas Eve. I used porter. It came out with a wee bit of crust on the top half and was really good. (I'd say "delicious" but I can't spell it.) I don't know how it would stand up to other ginger cakes because I have nothing to compare it to.

                          I had a jar of Bing cherry jelly. I put it in a bowl with a little butter and hit it with the immersion blender then stirred in a little lemon juice. Used it on the cake and on the White-Chocolate Challah Pudding

                          1. wyf4lyf RE: wyf4lyf Dec 30, 2006 11:35 PM

                            Just and to report back that this cake just gets better with age. Yum!

                            1. foodseek RE: wyf4lyf Dec 30, 2006 11:50 PM

                              Thanks so much for the inspiration to try baking once again-finally a cake I can make from scratch which is tasty and pretty enough to serve my family. I used Guinness and half cups of sugars. I used my Nordic Ware bundt pan since I have never been successful taking cakes out of the Williams/Sonoma castle bundt form. Yes, I have tried Pam and Bake Secret but with no success. Is this a cake where the WS castle form could work?

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                                Candy RE: foodseek Dec 30, 2006 11:55 PM

                                I have found even with my pricy Kaiserforme heavy silicone coated bundt form that if I let a cake cool in it too long it sticks. Cool 15 minutes and then invert onto a rack. Anythign longer than that is too long.

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                                  Lovey Howell RE: foodseek Dec 31, 2006 02:44 AM

                                  Yes, this is the only recipe I have tried with the WS Castle pan and it worked beautifully. I did use the Baker's Secret stuff they sell at WS and I think I also let the cake cool somewhat before unmolding it. It shrinks a bit and comes out quite easily.

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                                    wyf4lyf RE: foodseek Dec 31, 2006 04:38 PM

                                    I'm so glad you started baking again!

                                  2. wyf4lyf RE: wyf4lyf Dec 31, 2006 04:38 PM

                                    This particular cake doesn't need to cool long in the pan. The recipe says only 5 minutes and mine came out perfectly using PAM with flour in a nonstick Bundt pan. Other cakes like pound cake seem to need 45 minutes or so.

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