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Dec 25, 2006 10:14 PM

Ambasaddor - W. Beaver Creek & Hwy 7

Hi all,

Well after reading tons of rave reviews for this place re: their Dim Sum, I'm not very happy.

I drove all the way from Brampton rushing to get there before they finished at 3:30 after I was misinformed the first time I called saying that they close their Dim Sum at 4.

I feel like I just wasted $70 (includes tip) - 2 people.

Their spring rolls (chicken & mushroom) were too oily & tasteless.

Their egg noodles with been sprouts had maybe 15 been sprouts & once it cooled down, it's like I put lip gloss on my lips. Tasty at first, but the oil is just toooo much.

The beef balls while HUGE were tasteless.

Their steamed chicken was a mistake. It was almost all fat.

Their mango pudding tasted like it wasn't fresh or even authentic.

Nice staff, but the food wasn't even passable IMO.

I'm used to Tai Pan at Avenue/Eglinton. They used to have sit down till they went all take out & I haven't been there since.

Even the Dim Sum place at Y & E is better.

What a waste of money, I should have listed to the one person who said they didn't like Ambassadors.

Merry Christmas everyone : )


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  1. Wow, 70.00 for 2?! I've never spent that much money on Dim Sum before!!!

    I've been to Abasaddor for dinner once - I can't remember how it tasted - that's how memorable it was to me!

    1. Wow that sounds like a rotten experience.

      I have been to Ambassador many times for dim sum and have nothing but positive things to say.

      It is not an inexpensive place, but $70 is a bit more than I have ever paid.

      Nice setting and very friendly and helpful staff.

      1. been there two weeks ago, with a large group of people. most were chinaese and very fimuliar with both the concept of dim sum and the various rest. that offer them.

        the majority felt this was the second best place in toronto for dim sum.

        and for at least this day, i could not dis-agree. the food was fresh, hot and tasty

        3 Replies
        1. re: galambo

          "the majority felt this was the second best place in toronto for dim sum."

          Just curious, galambo - what do "the majority" feel is the BEST place for dim sum?

          1. re: FlavoursGal

            the dim sum place in the metropolitan hotel on chestnut (won't even try to spell because i will get it wrong <S>.)

        2. As someone who's been going for dim sum since they were born, I agree that ambassador is amongst the best dim sum places in the GTA.

          I'm a bit confused as to where you've had non greasy fried egg noodles and bean sprouts because I don't ever recall trying a version where it doesn't leave that film of oil on my lips.

          I'm very sorry to hear that you had an unpleasant visit to ambassador. Perhaps, try out Perfect which is in scarborough.

          Perfect Chinese Restaurant. 4386 Sheppard Ave E - 416-297-6100

          I go frequently and if I get there right before the lunch rush, you get a nice spot in the 'VIP' room where it's $1.60 per dish as opposed to $1.30 per dish in the regular room. Also the food comes out on carts more frequently and it's a nicer vibe in general.

          Another good choice IMO is Ginger & Onion restaurant during the morning dim sum or the afternoon tea dim sum period. Either one is a good choice for decent dim sum that's great value too.

          Just my two cents. Happy hunting.

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          1. re: chimxchim

            Yeh, Scarb. is just too far.

            As for the grease, if that was the only issue, I'd still go back, I don't let one dish ruin it for all the others, but clearly it wasn't & one thing I've learned is that just b/c someone from that ethnicity says the food is good doesn't mean it is.

            I once had 2 Greek guys give me a recommendation that I didn't think was anything great.

            After searching around on my own, I found a much better place right next door.

            Ethnicity doesn't mean good palette, it just means they are familiar with their food.

            As for the price, that wasn't the issue, if I had liked the food overall, $70 would have been fine.

            To each his own, I'm not average, I'm very picky about food, quality & flavour.

            Thanks : )


            1. re: sensualspirit

              Heh, my family prefers the place next doors because it's better value and it's not like the more expensive food is worth shelling out more dough for when you go on a regular basis, you want the best bang for your buck.

              Ah, I'm guessing you've tried out the lai toh heen/lai wah heen places already?

              PS: Ginger & Onion is in markham at market village which is right across from pacific mall which is IIRC, kennedy/steeles. A decent lunching/brunching/dinner place.

              Sooner or later I'll find a nice chinese restaurant with nice washrooms AND good food that doesn't charge me an arm and a leg.

          2. I go Ambassador quite regularly (more than 6 times a year for the last 5 years or so). Your experience fails to equate with mine on so many levels! I often go with my mother and on those occassions it is usually just the two of us. We are both big people and our order is usually: Bowl of H&S seafood soup, XO noodles, 2 orders of Haw Gow, Red Bean Patties, Egg Custard Buns, and 1 or 2 other dishes which varry. She's a bit of stick in the mud -- I'd try a few more new things each time. But, anyways, it is always 3-4 plates each. We have never, ever, spent more than $50 tax, tip and all. If we brake $40 we usually leave with a take-out container. I can't fathom how you spent $70 and didn't order something extra-special like shark-fin. Did you double check you didn't get the wrong bill? Their dinner menu is over-priced/pricey their dim sum isn't -- at least for us. Maybe we are getting some sort of dicount we have never been told about?

            I will agree their spring rolls are mediocre (kinda plain and flavourless). I didn't think they had egg rolls on the menu at all -- maybe you had the yuba bean-curd roll? Anyways, I can't really see going to a dim sum place with the sort of expansive menu Ambassador has and having spring rolls -- but, that's just me.

            Anyways, I hope you might go again sometime. I have tried Ding Tai Fung, Lai Wah heen, Rol San, Bright Pearl, Pink Pearl, Rol Jui, Dragon Dynasty and a quite a few others. Only Dragon Dynasty was comparable in price/quality and it had carts and it was hard to get them to offer up the good stuff to us. Lai Wah Heen was better with more delicate, nuanced and balanced flavours. But, it cost disproportionately more and was deemed not worth it by all involved.

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            1. re: Atahualpa

              Well reading an Oriental bill isn't all that easy LOL since I didn't know what was what price & I just wanted out of there. If they miscalculated, that just further proves my view of them & no, I will never go back. I normally don't have such a negative experience at restaurants, but when I do, I don't give them a 2nd chance.

              My son wanted to go for the all you can eat Japanese buffet in the same plaza & I said no b/c I wanted Dim Sum. I should have listened to him.

              I ordered the following (trying to remember)

              1. 2 steak balls & the worchestire (sp?) sauce didn't even seem like Lean Perins which is the best worchestsire (sp?) sauce around & like I said, they were bland.
              2. 2 beef chung fung (this was the best dish IMO)
              3. 1 rice noodle vegetable (same as #2, but vegetarian)
              4. 1 steamed shrimp balls (I don't eat the shrimp, only my son does)
              5. 1 shrimp sticks or whatever they are called
              6. The egg noodles with bean sprouts that I thought was the most expensive since it was labeled an XL dish
              7. The steamed chicken w/ mushroom which was all fat & it was too hot to taste & I was full already, but the mushroom was bland from what I could taste & we are talking shitake mushrooms here, so what a waste, as I love shitake.
              8. The spring rolls
              9. 2 mango puddings which were gross. My son loves mango pudding, so I'm used to ordering it & this was just mediocre IMO & so not good, I gave it to him.

              I think that's it.

              It was $70 including a $5-6 tip.

              Yes, we left with extra food, but if it sucked, I'm now leary about even having it.

              1. re: sensualspirit

                Just FYI: beef balls arent suppose to served with "lea + perrins". It is actually a chinese version of worchestershire sauce. It is just easier for most places to break out the English version of the sauce, because it is easier to find.

                Also, maybe in he future when you're looking for a dim sum place, you should recite the list of foods you are particularly looking for. It seems most Hong Kong people go to dim sum looking for good tea, steamed dumplings and steamed buns. Almost none order spring rolls and bean sprout chow mein. So, others probably based their recommendations on the all the foods you just did not order.

                1. re: qtxniki

                  It does seem some of the dishes chosen are not reflective of the better dim sum dishes, but regardless the number of poor dishes sounds disproportionately high. I do think you chance getting some of the dregs (or rushed cooking of some sort) when you order a few minutes before a restaurant closes.

                  The beef cheung fun you mentioned is always superb, and I agree their mango pudding is gross (their only terrible item that I've gotten)... dunno if you saw my earlier posting warning to avoid it.