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The "clementine cake" with Meyer lemons (report)

Ruth Lafler Dec 21, 2006 06:03 AM

Last year around this time Nigella Lawson's recipe for clementine cake ( http://nigella.com/recipes/recipe.asp... ) was a hot topic on this board. At the time, it was suggested that it could also be made with Meyer lemons, but I don't remember if anyone tried it and reported back.

So I made one using Meyer lemons (my Mom has more than she knows what to do with on her bush) for my Hanukkah dinner party tonight (it's originally a Jewish recipe that can be made for Passover since it has no flour) and it was a big hit. As Nigella suggested, I increased the sugar slightly and made a lemon juice/powdered sugar glaze to pour over top, and it was delicious -- very moist and lemony. All my guests had seconds!

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  1. Pei RE: Ruth Lafler Dec 21, 2006 06:08 AM

    Thanks! That sounds like a use for Meyer lemons I might actually enjoy. It's just not tart for me--I know, not the point of the Meyer.

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      Ruth Lafler RE: Pei Dec 21, 2006 04:28 PM

      I agree. For example, I hate Meyer lemon lemonade -- they just don't have enough acid to get the right sweet-tart balance. I think generally that Meyer lemons are best in recipes that are fairly high in fat, since the fat seems to enhance the special floral qualities of the Meyer lemon and you can get away with using less sugar, which makes sweet-tart balance easier to achieve.

      Since this recipe uses the whole fruit, it has a well-rounded flavor (and actually, I used part Meyer lemon juice and part "regular" lemon juice for the glaze).

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        pikawicca RE: Ruth Lafler Dec 21, 2006 11:32 PM

        Meyer lemons make wonderful lemonade; just use less simple syrup.

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          Ruth Lafler RE: pikawicca Dec 21, 2006 11:34 PM

          Not to my taste -- lessening the syrup doesn't change the fact that the acid "bite" just isn't there.

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            pikawicca RE: Ruth Lafler Dec 22, 2006 12:03 AM

            What about floating a slice of Eureka lemon in your 'ade?

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              Pei RE: pikawicca Dec 22, 2006 12:09 AM

              But I think Ruth and I would agree that it just seems so silly to buy Meyers, which are so much more expensive, and then try to doctor the lemonade when we would just prefer good old-fashioned cheap Eureka lemonade in the first place.

              One of my favorite night time teas is just hot water, clover honey, and half a Eureka lemon. I tried it with a meyer once, and even with half the water and twice the amount of lemon as usual, there just wasn't any flavor to me. It smelled nice, but didn't taste how I wanted it to.

              My friend, on the other hand, has super sensitive teeth and can't even drink OJ. I told her to try Meyers some time.

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                pikawicca RE: Pei Dec 22, 2006 12:54 AM

                I'm not suggesting that you "doctor" your lemonade. In my opinion, the wonderful perfume and taste of the Meyer lemon warrants special accomodation. Eurekas lack the complex flavor profile of the Meyer, but we've all gotten used to their one-dimensional taste. Cut into a Meyer lemon, inhale, then tell me that a Eureka is superior.

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                  Pei RE: pikawicca Dec 22, 2006 01:20 AM

                  Believe me, I've done it. I've even sliced both Meyers and Eurekas into thin rounds (with skins on) and eaten them as is. It may sound nuts to you, but I like the Eurekas. Maybe you're right about getting used to what we all grew up with, but to me a Meyer tastes like exactly what it is: an orange/lemon hybrid.

                  I definitely agree that Meyers smell better. But to me, lemonade is all about that mouth-puckering tang. I know it's personal preference. Ruth's use of Meyers in the Clementine cake appeals to me because it seems like a much better way to bring out the full spectrum of aromas in a Meyer than cold water and sugar.

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                  Ruth Lafler RE: Pei Dec 22, 2006 03:13 AM

                  Well, I hardly ever buy lemons -- I have a Eureka tree (and a young Meyer bush that's crop isn't ripe yet), and both my Mom and my sister have Meyer bushes. But I agree nonetheless.

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                    oakjoan RE: Pei Dec 22, 2006 04:16 AM

                    Some of us never have to buy Meyers...they grow, crop after crop, all year long here in Oakland, CA. I like to eat them like fruit, all of them, including pith and skin.

                    I like "normal" lemons as well, but Meyers are great - and very good as preserved lemons.

        2. oakjoan RE: Ruth Lafler Dec 21, 2006 06:06 PM

          Wow! Great post, Ruth. My tree is just filled with lemons right now and I was looking for a recipe for gluten-allergic folks (2 of the 9 dinner guests on Monday).

          I'm also thinking of making it smaller than Nigella's recipe. I think I could cut ingreds in half, eh?

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            Ruth Lafler RE: oakjoan Dec 21, 2006 06:11 PM

            I think you could, but I wouldn't. It doesn't make a very large cake -- it goes in an 8-inch springform -- and my dinner party of five ate most of it. Plus, it keeps well, so any leftovers will be good for several days. I bet it freezes well, too.

            Oh, one other note -- there was a lot of discussion last year about what to use for the ground almonds, since the recipe doesn't specify. I've made it using both blanched and unblanched almonds, and they're both good, but the blanched almonds give it a finer, lighter, appearance and texture. If you don't mind a more rustic product, then the almond meal from Trader Joe's works just fine.

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              oakjoan RE: Ruth Lafler Dec 22, 2006 04:21 AM

              Yeah, I've made it about 10 times and have used everything from my own ground blanched almonds to the almond meal they sell at Berkeley Bowl.

              I am going to make a smaller version, as my idea for dessert (that's all I'm bringing to our holiday dinner) is to make several different desserts (the gluten-allergics can eat the cake). I'm also making a dessert I found somewhere recently (SF Chron? NYT? LAT? for chocolate panna cotta with orange caramel sauce. Haven't decided what the other(s) is/are. Depends on how much steam I've got left.

          2. megek RE: Ruth Lafler Dec 21, 2006 06:07 PM

            Oh, this sounds fantastic! My Mom also has a "Hanukkah" Meyer lemon bush - a bush that keeps on giving! I think I might try this recipe out for the holidays. Thanks!

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              Timowitz RE: Ruth Lafler Dec 21, 2006 08:32 PM

              I've made the cake with Eureka lemons and with oranges (both times increasing the sugar to 1-1/2 cups. Both were popular.

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                Timowitz RE: Timowitz Jan 3, 2007 07:03 PM

                Oops! I increased the sugar to 1-1/4 cups (from 1-1/8) for each recipe. Rereading the recipe at www.nigella.com, however, I'm not sure whether she suggests increasing the amount of sugar for either fruit or only for lemons.

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                Carnitas RE: Ruth Lafler Dec 21, 2006 10:24 PM

                Almonds, eggs, and Meyer Lemons. Sounds too good.

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                  Cinnamon RE: Ruth Lafler Dec 22, 2006 12:57 AM

                  How many lemons did you use for every two oranges the recipe calls for?

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                    Ruth Lafler RE: Cinnamon Dec 22, 2006 03:14 AM

                    The recipe actually calls for a pound of fruit, no matter what fruit you use.

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                    niccole RE: Ruth Lafler Dec 22, 2006 01:03 AM

                    today i made meyer lemon ricotta cookies from last months food & wine mag ( or was it bon appetite? ) and they were TASTY!! we gave them out at our store for "customer appreciation" and everyone loved them.

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                      Anne H RE: Ruth Lafler Dec 22, 2006 03:17 AM

                      Here's a Meyer lemon question I was about to post elsewhere, but I might as well put it here, I think. I've never tasted or used Meyer lemons, but I bought some today thinking I would use them to make lemon squares. Is this a good use of Meyer lemons? Do I need to adjust the recipe at all? (I generally use the JOC recipe for this.)

                      Then there's the question of how to use the leftover lemons, I think I bought more than I need, they were on sale at TJs.

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                        toodie jane RE: Anne H Dec 22, 2006 03:49 AM

                        I have a meyer tree anad use them all the time for l;emon baked goods. I love the perfume--lemons exemplified. But I always grate in some peel. It really makes a lemon dish top notch. For lemon bars, I add quite a bit of zest, otherwise they're too darned sugary!

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                          Ruth Lafler RE: toodie jane Dec 22, 2006 05:12 AM

                          Meyer lemon bars are delicious, but toodie jane is right: you need to include some zest and also reduce the sugar somewhat. Here's a recipe that's specifically designed to use Meyers: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/show/...

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                        harrisonca RE: Ruth Lafler Dec 22, 2006 03:20 AM

                        Excellent, I have too many Meyer lemons, and not enough ideas on how to use them. Great recipe.

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                          Anne H RE: Ruth Lafler Dec 22, 2006 05:42 PM

                          Thanks for the lemon bar recipe! It's just what I was looking for. Any reason I can't use EggBeaters for the 4 eggs (and then add the two yolks that are called for)?

                          Interesting that the recipe says not to use a 9x13 pan. In my old JOC, the recipe called for an 8" square. I gave that book to my son, and have a new one, which I thought was the same edition, but it's not, because the lemon square recipe is doubled and cooked in a 9x13 pan, which I was hesitant about.

                          Now, someone tell me how to eat the three Meyer lemons I will have left over...

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                            Ruth Lafler RE: Anne H Dec 22, 2006 05:55 PM

                            I would use regular eggs. IIRC, egg beaters are all whites, and you really need the yolks to make a proper custard. There are lots of other good suggestions in that thread for using Meyer lemons -- Shaker pie with Meyer lemons sounds fabulous.

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