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Gravy on French Fries

When I was 18 I spent the best summer of my entire life in New York. Peekskill NY, but me and my crazy cousins ventured into the city and wow did we have a ball!
I think that is when my adventure with food began, they treated me to a more than a few dinners that were outstanding but at that young age these are the most that stick in my mind.

One was a steak that was grain fed? Am I dreaming about this? It was so GOOD!
And the other was french fries with gravy. OH MY GAWD!

Are the french fries and gravy a figment of my imagination or can you still get them. And it was brown gravy by the way....

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  1. Go one step further and a few steps farther north into Quebec. Poutine. French fries with cheese curds and gravy. Heaven!

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      1. re: chef chicklet


        I guess I'm a French Fry purist - I prefer them lightly salted, with just ketchup to dip them into. Seems like the gravy would make them soggy, IMO.

        1. re: LindaWhit

          I'm with you. I like mine nice and crispy ( I always order them well done when at a restaurant). Just some salt, and I'm happy!

          1. re: macca

            There is a place for crispy w/ ketchup, and there is a place for poutine. Chez Ashton in QC, specifically. Regular fries make a good side, but poutine is an entity unto itself. You must try it once. At Chez Ashton.

            1. re: amandine

              amandine, is this the chez ashton in quebec city that you're referring to?


              Chez Ashton
              640, Grande Allée Est
              Québec, QC G1R 2K5
              (418) 522-3449
              Fax (418) 682-2613

              "For 37 years, Chez Ashton has served food made from top quality ingredients. Specialties include roast beef sandwiches, hamburgers made from fresh ground beef, fries prepared by hand from fresh potatoes and the traditional Québec "poutines". Rapid and courteous service, pleasant atmosphere."

          2. re: LindaWhit

            Wouldn't a true French Fry purist not have them with ketchup since ketchup is not used much in France?

          3. re: chef chicklet

            They're fresh from the factory and taste, to me, a little like mozzerella cheese only w/ a very different texture and they squeek when you eat them. I had some fed-exed to me so I could make fried cheese curds for a friend for her birthday. Poutine has always sounded so good to me. I'd love to find a place near me to try them (whether or not it's "authentic"). They sound like a food that would be great, even if not.

            1. re: chowser

              i don't think there is such a thing as non-authentic poutin... fries with mozza or curds, and brown gravy. there are so many variations in canada, with different cheeses and different gravies, and they're all delish!

              1. re: RiJaAr

                i disagree. poutine is always made with cheese curds (though there is a debate as to the type of gravy).

                there have been spinoffs - ie, "italian poutine" - but the basic recipe is the same.

                1. re: piccola

                  and i disagree, poutine doesn't HAVE to made with curds, it tastes great that way, but it doesn't have to be curds

                  1. re: RiJaAr

                    from what i understand - and i realize i'm not the ultimate authority on the matter - it has to be curds for poutine. otherwise, it's fries with cheese and gravy (which is also good, but not poutine).

            2. re: chef chicklet

              Cheese curds are very fresh young cheddar in irregular shapes. When you bite into them they squeak and are very delicious. When the curds are pressed into molds (cheddared) and pressed and aged you get cheddar cheese. These are mild, sweet, creamy white and I am not getting a craving and know I can't find any where i live right now. Dang! I may have to do an on line search for some. There is nothing like tyem.

          4. I grew up in Upstate NY, heck I'm still here, gravy on ffries is common. I agree with Candy that poutine is the way to go.

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            1. re: Old Red

              I was not introduced to Poutine during that trip, but it sure sounds good. My nephew is in Toronto and I owe him a visit, I'll be sure to try them when I go.

              1. re: chef chicklet

                not to sound snobby, especially about such a working-class food, but the poutine you'll find in toronto (and in most places outside quebec) won't be that great. with so few ingredients, you really need them to be the best - particularly the cheese curds, which need to be super fresh

                1. re: piccola

                  True, but you can post or review old posts on the Toronto board - I think there are a couple of places that do cheese curds, and many places that do grated cheese versions or even haute versions. It's not a Toronto specialty, it is definitely better in Quebec were every "dep" or corner store has fresh curds. But it's still something fun to try. And crappy gravy somehow tastes much better with cheese.

                  1. re: julesrules

                    I'm not that familiar with Toronto, but I'm sure you're right.

                    Oh, and I kinda like to use St. Hubert's sauce, even though it's really ghetto...

                  2. re: piccola

                    BTW, calling it a "working-class food" DOES make you sound snobby

                    1. re: RiJaAr

                      i know. but let's face it - fries in every country started as a working-class food cuz they're cheap. that doesn't mean they're not good.

              2. there are a bunch of places that have disco fries (cheese fries with gravy) on their menus..great late night food.

                1. Gravy fries are what put Nectar's in Burlington on the map (oh yeah, and some band called Phish). I see more people ask for gravy on fries than ketchup). Seems localized to upstate NY and Vermont (and the aforementioned Poutine in Canada).

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                  1. re: TonyO

                    Nah, Jersey diners are all about fries w/mozzarella and gravy too. Freaks out my Southern friends. Then again, to them brown gravy is only for turkey -- every other gravy is white.

                    1. re: Covert Ops

                      >>> Then again, to them brown gravy is only for turkey -- every other gravy is white.

                      Not in these Indiana woods would that pass for me. Geez, I once ordered a steak and mashed potatoes and was expecting the dark-rich brown gravy. No, I got the actually a white "flour" gravy base with a browning sauce added. I asked the waitress before I even ordered it, that I wanted the real brown beef gravy. Fortunately the chef came out and made me the gravy I wanted and made me a fresh steak. (He substuted a 16oz Porterhouse for a 10oz T-Bone, for all my troubles. he claims he and the boss got into it as this far north not everyone likes the brown flour gravy.)

                      1. re: Covert Ops

                        "fries w/mozzarella and gravy"? The only time I saw "wet" fries was when i ordered a hot open faced sanwich (turkey or beef) and the gravy from the sandwich sneaked over the line and attacked the fries. Sometimes this was a good thing, always dipped in ketchup (only heinz) and other times they just got too soggy.

                        I neverr saw mozz cheese w fries when I was a regular at NJ diners in the 70's. Where might that be CO? Must be a southern NJ thing.

                        1. re: jfood

                          I'm from Bayonne, jfood, which is across from NYC. Other diners around Hudson/Bergen counties had the same thing -- Jersey City, Hoboken, etc.

                          1. re: jfood

                            I'm from Middlesex County and disco fries were very, very common in diners -- though it was usually American or Velveeta, not mozzarella. You could get mozz if you asked for it special.

                        2. re: TonyO

                          Is the gravy at Nectar's chicken gravy? That's what I seem to remember, but it was also about 1am after a long night of drinking when I had them.

                          1. re: TonyO

                            Also vinegar on fries. That freaks some people out on visits to the North Country. A shaker bottle always used to come automatically on the drive in trays when you ordered fr fr pots.

                            1. re: Candy

                              I first tasted vinegar on fries at, of all places, the Starlight Cafe across from Space Mountain in Walt Disney World. They offered it in packets right next to the ketchup. Bless the tourists that made that possible! :-)

                              1. re: Covert Ops

                                20 years ago, as a freshly-minted high school graduate, I spent the summer in Ireland. The first or second day we were there, still suffering with jet lag, we went out on the prowl looking for someplace to eat. Ended up at this tiny hole-in-the-wall called the Kingfisher, not far from the bottom of O'Connell Street. The guy who ran the place had just sat down for a break and had a huge plate of chips, which he proceeded to drown with vinegar from the bottle on the table. I must have looked at him like he had three heads, because he laughed at me.

                                Next time I went in there I tried the chips that way, and loved them! It's one of my favorite ways to eat them now--if brown gravy from Murphy's is not to be had.

                                1. re: revsharkie

                                  fires with gravy AND a little vinegar is great. try it.

                          2. The Hat (various locations in Southern California) has what they call "wet fries" -- which is basically fries with gravy.

                            Good stuff.


                            1. Cheese fries and poutine (pronounced kind of like puht-zin here in Quebec) are not the same thing. Cheese curds have a very specific texture and sound and also melt differently than other cheeses. There are subtle differences between recipes (we all know about Au Pied du Cochon's delicious take on it), but the traditional poutine is just frites, sauce brun ou blanche) and cheese curds. yummy! Like LindaWhit, though, I also like an unadulterated fry.

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                              1. re: tartetatin

                                Moi aussi, tartetatin. There's nothing like the frites in La Belle Province (and I don't mean the hot dog chain!) - they're sweet, crispy and slightly soggy, all at the same time, and NEVER, EVER frozen! Along with a "steame all-dress avec de choux" - pure heaven. Translation of previous sentence: an all-dressed steamed hot dog with cabbage.

                                And by the way, folks, I grew up in Montreal and never heard of poutine until I was in my twenties. It was a regional Quebec thing that suddenly became the rage in the 1980's.

                              2. Fries with gravy is a favorite diner dish here in Baltimore. You may have seen it featured in the Barry Levinson movie, "Diner". Super good, especially late at night after some drinking and carousing.

                                Love the sound of that Quebecois dish too. Learned to love fried cheese curds during my tenure in Minnesota.

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                                1. re: eddieandcleo

                                  Eddie where can you find them in Baltimore? My son is at Hopkins and here in Florida the only place that had them closed.

                                2. I LOVE POUTINE as well. When I lived in Canada I always had fries with gravy or poutine. Now I live in NYC and I can't find poutine that is as good as the ones I had in Canada. Even at Pomme Frites (on 7th and 2nd Ave) which is supposed to be the best fries in Manhatton, they can't do the poutine right. They have good Belgium thick cut fries, and the different mayo or sauces are great, but the poutine is just not right. I was so disappointed when I had poutine there, I eventually just have to stick with the regular fries with other sauces.

                                  1. Murphy's Steak House, Bartlesville, Oklahoma. Rich, dark, dark brown gravy dumped all over a hot hamburger and real homemade french fries. It's a heart attack on a plate, but you MUST TRY IT!

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                                    1. re: revsharkie

                                      this is one of my favorite junky meals to make at home. a can of hot beef gravy poured over a hamburger, fries, and served with peas of course! "hot hamburger" and "hot chicken"(same but with BBQ chicken and white bread) are on every diner menu in Quebec.

                                      the secret to a good poutine, or fries with gravy is crispy fries, otherwise you get a soggy mess. and put a litle white vinegar on it.. you won't be disappointed!

                                      1. re: revsharkie

                                        HOLY S***! Murphy's is still in business?? Still on the west edge of town? I was stationed at the USAF radar site that was on the hill just west of the airport in 1960, and had the deep pleasure of treating myself to a Murphy's burger at least once a week, even though at $1.25 it seriously strained my $120/mo. budget.

                                        There was another, fancier steakhouse in the middle of town that had been recommended by Duncan Hines, so it got all the out-of-town trade...but every Sunday morning you'd see whole families sneaking out of church in mid-sermon to join the line snaking around Murphy's little building!

                                        1. re: Will Owen

                                          Absolutely they're still in business, and in the very same place! Think of the public outcry if they should go away. You can still get the same burgers, the same homemade fries, the same dark brown gravy. I was there in August (I grew up just north of B-ville in Kansas--as a matter of fact I was born in B-ville when my parents both worked for Phillips--but I'm in Iowa now), and if they're open I'm sure we'll go there next week. We introduced my husband's grandson from Oregon--a place where they don't seem to know from gravy--to Murphy's over the summer and he loved it.

                                          Murphy's was actually destroyed in (I think) 1982 by a tornado, but they rebuilt almost immediately, and almost identical to the way it had been. The tornado hit at like 5:30 p.m.--luckily it was Monday, so they were closed, or else there may have been casualties.

                                          1. re: revsharkie

                                            Murphy himself was still in charge when I was there, often sitting at the counter smoking and drinking coffee, but always in his stained cap and apron. The story was that he'd cut a steak off every side he was offered and cook it and eat it, and if it didn't pass muster he'd pass it along to the fancy joint. This could have been myth...

                                            Now I have to figure out where I can go with B-ville as a side trip!

                                      2. I once worked at a drive-in in Portland OR, and my favorite meal break treat was crispy hash browns drenched in the standard house brown gravy. Sometimes I could talk the cook into adding sauteed onions or mushrooms to the creation.

                                        1. The french-fried potato poboy with roast beef gravy has a long and storied history in/around New Orleans...it takes the gravy fries concept to another degree by putting the whole mess inside french bread, dressed with mayo, lettuce, and tomatoes.

                                          1. At home I make various forms of sliced skillet fries, like;

                                            American Fries (salt & pepper)
                                            German Fries (Salt, pepper, & onion).
                                            River Fries (peels left on, seasoned like either above)

                                            Depending on the meat I plan on serving with a meal, Beef, pork, or chicken I make the gravies accordingly. Beef or a Southern Pan style gravy for the chicken are the norms.

                                            Quick (and dirty) meals may sound like River Fries with browned hamburger mixed, and then topped with brown (beef) gravy. Or Shredded frozen potatoes in place of the sliced fresh ones. Fried chicken breasts or fingers / above potato choice / and Southern Pan gravy.

                                            My apologies if this sounds like I am rambling on, but this Chowhound does get carried away at the mention of food!. ;-)

                                            1. So funny to see this post today. I'm from Boston, and I was at a diner in Jersey City this weekend, and we struck up a conversation with one of the regulars at 2am. She was telling us to get fries with gravy and mozzarella and I was like "What?!!?" At first I didn't know if she meant "gravy" like red sauce (I'm Italian-American and that's what my family calls it) or what...but then we figured it was brown gravy and cheese. Sounded odd at the time so I stuck with a grilled cheese, but now I'm wishing I tried it!

                                              1. I am happy to be able to get cheese curds from the vendors at the local Farmers Market here, and make my own poutine! Yum! I just got some curds with onion flavor I'm dying to try this way.

                                                One thing though...avoid cold fries, esp with cheese, as I almost choked to death on them one night years ago...Yikes!

                                                1. This is such an interesting thread! I always thought that fries'n'gravy were totally Canadian. CookingGirl, when I went to Boston a few years back, I got the exact same reaction as yours when I asked for gravy on my fries! They'd never heard of that combination and looked at me like I was just weird.

                                                  Also, regarding the sogginess caused by the gravy, some people don't mind it I guess but I just ask for my gravy on the side (which means in a small styrofoam container if you're doing the take-out route).

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                                                  1. re: sierramum

                                                    But if the gravy's on the side, are you reaheating it? How else is it gonna melt half the cheese curds?

                                                    1. re: hatless

                                                      Actually, I was just referring to plain ol' fries with gravy. Poutine is a different story altogether! :)

                                                  2. Man, I am SOOOO hungry for fries right now! With gravy... or malt vinegar... or tartar sauce... or melted cheese... or... Yum.

                                                    I definitely agree with MsDiPesto that cold fries (and re-heated also) are absolutely crap and nasty.

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                                                    1. re: djohnson22

                                                      If you think fries and tartar sauce are good - try onion rings with it sometime, Really great combination, but they have to be the homemade kind, not some frozen garbage.

                                                    2. I've also had pizza fries in a diner near the NY/NJ boarder with tomato sauce and mozzarella cheese.

                                                      There was one off-menu combo that people would talk about that had a disgusting name which I won't post here. Gravy, tomato sauce, and cheese - and mayo also if want it really gross.

                                                      If I don't want the fries to get soggy, I just get the gravy on the side and dip as necessary. I like a little ketchup on my gravy fries as well.

                                                      1. I eat them this way ALL the time, and I live in the Midwest. I don't like the gravy poured over them, I like a cup of it to dip them in. Thick dark beef gravy......oh my it is SO yummy!! Of course, the ultimate is chili cheese fries, but that gets to be so heavy.

                                                        I also love them with honey mustard, spicy ranch dressing, bearnaise sauce, blue cheese dressing (sometimes) and plain yellow mustard. But with ketchup??? No way

                                                        1. In Baltimore..Iconic diner food, a hot roast beef sandwich(open faced) with french fries and gravy(beef) on everything!!!!

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                                                          1. re: Hue

                                                            It certainly was some time ago (1981?), but if my memory serves me right weren't fries with gravy featured in the great Baltimore movie "Diner"? I think it was where I first learned of them(?).

                                                            1. re: Hue

                                                              Ok, thank you, I was reading this thread in horror that so many people had never had gravy and fries. Now I see that being from Baltimore is probably how I know about them.

                                                              (And then there are Boardwalk Fries with the malt vinegar. Yum.)

                                                            2. FWIW, spicy pork gravy (really spicy) is probably great on those - have had it on deep-fried okra at a Southern restaurant.

                                                              1. O yeah-- a Central PA favorite. All the diners have them-- we call them "wets"

                                                                1. Let's turn this on its head. . .I love crispy fries with HONEY MUSTARD. :D

                                                                  1. Oh yeah, definately love the brown beef gravy on fries. It is served that way in Northeast PA!

                                                                    1. chaque on son gout--I prefer french fries lightly salted with mayo on the side

                                                                      1. that is the saddest thing i have ever heard... you never had fries with gravy before? how did you eat them?
                                                                        fries are almost automatically served with gravy here, or with cheese and gravy, aka poutine.
                                                                        they don't have to get soggy either, i always get my gravy on the side and dip my fries, like with ketchup..
                                                                        you seriously can't get fries and gravy there? weird.

                                                                        BTW, fries with a side of tarter sauce, or a side of honey dill is also awesome

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                                                                        1. re: RiJaAr

                                                                          Oh, I was a young teenager from Oregon at the time I was initated to the brown gravy on fries in new York. I've craved them ever since. I now live in Northern CA no for approximately 25 years, I am sure they are around here somewhere, but I have not found them and they are not a normal thing as they seem to be all over the rest of the country. And when you say "here" where?

                                                                          If there is a Northern (Bay area - to SF ) hound in here that know who serves them, let me know! I would be delighted to find them again!

                                                                            1. re: RiJaAr

                                                                              You're right I owe my nephew in Toronto a visit, I'm sure he has a place that he can introduce me to this wonderful dish "poutine" and I can't wait!

                                                                              1. re: chef chicklet

                                                                                Try the Blue chip truck in front of city hall (Toronto). You won't be disappointed!

                                                                        2. I love fries when they're hot. Either salted, w/ketchup, w/gravy, gravy and ketchup, chili cheese fries or poutine.

                                                                          For those who've never had poutine, you definitely need to try this "Gastronomical train wreck" as A. Bourdain called it. He had them on his NR Quebec show. He also absolutely loved them and has for years. He's also a traditionalist. If you can get FRESH cheese curds near you, make yourself a nice REAL beef gravy and some high end fries. You'll love it.


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                                                                          1. re: Davwud

                                                                            Poutine is usually made with velouté of chicken, isn't it?

                                                                            1. re: Das Ubergeek

                                                                              not traditionally. It's a darker, chicken OR beef gravy here in Quebec. We're lucky in that many decent ones are available in a can. :)

                                                                              If you try to make it homemade, use curds if you can and a dark gravy. Roast chicken or roast beef gravy, never anything creamy. :shudder:

                                                                              1. re: C70

                                                                                Hm, I've never had it with beef gravy, even in the Cantons de l'Est (how does one translate that, anyway? Counties?). It might be tasty. I like it with St.-Hubert sauce, though, shamefully enough.

                                                                                1. re: Das Ubergeek

                                                                                  Les Cantons de l'Est translates as the Eastern Townships.

                                                                                  1. re: Das Ubergeek

                                                                                    The St-Hubert sauce has a cult following, for a reason.

                                                                            2. Chili fries are the best! With sour cream on the side.

                                                                              Poutine is awesome to try. Very filling an an experience all it's own. But IMHO in addition to fresh curds, the gravy needs to be beef stock based.

                                                                              I've tried it at home with shredded mozzarella and mushroom sauce over McCain superfries, and it was pretty good too.

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                                                                              1. re: spades

                                                                                my favorite fries were at a drive inn i used to work at, fries with chili, cheese, gravy and grilled mushrooms on it.. sounds disgusting, tastes devine

                                                                              2. I think it is hilarious when I eat fries and gravy around someone who is totally flabbergasted that I would do such a thing, until I point out that mashed potatoes and GRAVY are common, but that mashed potatoes and KETCHUP are not.

                                                                                I am only doing what is natural. Potatoes and ketchup is not natural....not to me. Pardon me, those who love it.

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                                                                                1. re: cooknKate

                                                                                  "Ketchup loves potatoes"
                                                                                  ~Stompin' Tom Connors~


                                                                                  1. re: Davwud

                                                                                    I had some frozen tater tots the other night but was out of ketchup. So I tried them with some Thai chili sauce. Wasn't half bad!

                                                                                    1. re: revsharkie

                                                                                      oooh tater tots are also great with mayo. I like a little dijon in mine. and vinegar, of course, on the tots.

                                                                                      1. re: C70

                                                                                        My stepson Corey makes what we call "Corey sauce" for french fries -- ketchup, mustard and mayo in equal portions. I won't touch it, but DH loves it.

                                                                                  2. I'll usually make a roux and use beef broth (yes, from the Knorr's cubes or whatever I have) when making poutine. It's pretty tasty after I doctor it with a few things from the spice cabinet.

                                                                                    1. I still prefer mayonnaise but I have eaten the frites with vinegar in Australia and liked it--I also like ketchup but not big on poutine- or gravy-although I like gravy on mashed potatoes--I like the frites crunchy so I dip them in mayo on the side-yum

                                                                                      1. French fries with gravy Wets in diner lingo..or at least the diners I knew. Great at 3Am Sunday after Sat. Partying.

                                                                                        And to add to the mix....french fries with Mayo...use it like Catsup.

                                                                                        1. I love french fries with gravy myself!!!!!!!

                                                                                          1. We've had fries with gravy as far back as I can remember here in Maryland. It was always good bar food with pitchers of beer in high school... um, I mean college! Yeah, when we turned 21 and not a day earlier!

                                                                                            1. Fries and grave are fine as long as it's CREAM gravy, notihing dark. In Texas it's a somewhat common dish, especially with CFS (chicken fried steak.) Love it.

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                                                                                              1. re: rtmonty

                                                                                                CREAM gravy, no way! Cream on biscuits. Dark gravy on fries. Just a Baltimorean talking, though.

                                                                                                1. re: janbrady

                                                                                                  please excuse my ignorance - what's cream gravy? is it just regular gravy with cream in it, or something else altogether?

                                                                                                  1. re: piccola

                                                                                                    Cream gravy is made from an oil and flour roux, then milk is added until gravy consistency. Then, you add salt and a ton of black pepper.

                                                                                                    1. re: QueenB

                                                                                                      oh... isn't that a white sauce? granted, it's made with oil instead of butter...

                                                                                                      and that would be totally gross on fries, by the way.

                                                                                                      1. re: piccola

                                                                                                        Yes, it is very similar to a bechamel or white sauce. And I can't imagine it being good on fries at all.

                                                                                                        1. re: QueenB

                                                                                                          It's essentially a bechamel made from sausage and sausage fat.
                                                                                                          From what I can assertain, the difference between bechemel and gravy is that gravy MUST contain meat drippings. Otherwise it's a sauce.


                                                                                              2. They got 'em in Philly. After twenty years of living in the area, I have yet to get up enough nerve to try some!

                                                                                                1. I enjoy chips and gravy or chips and curry.

                                                                                                  Also dipped in honey mustard is good as well.

                                                                                                  1. The Canadian Cafe in Monrovia, California, advertises something called: Canadian Fries (with gravy made with ground beef and mushrooms -- fondly called "wet fries").


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                                                                                                    1. re: ElsieDee

                                                                                                      Wow. I've never heard of "Canadian Fries". I've never had fries with gravy that's made with ground beef and mushrooms. And I'm certainly not familiar with the term "wet fries", fondly or not. Is there any information on whether these fries come from the Maritimes? Because I've been everywhere west of Quebec/Ontario and have never run across anything remotely like that. (And if I ever did, I have to admit that I'd be a little repulsed.)

                                                                                                      1. re: sierramum

                                                                                                        I've never heard of them either. Sounds like a bastard cousin of the dreaded "Italian poutine" made with bolognese and mozzarella.

                                                                                                    2. I'm so basic.

                                                                                                      I like one of three things on my fries:

                                                                                                      Cheese Wiz (I should be shot for this)
                                                                                                      Malt Vinegar (on the thick-cut fries)

                                                                                                      I've had gravy fries, and just didn't care for them.

                                                                                                      1. Wow I am completely surprised after reading this that most people don't eat gravy or vinegar on their fries or that some people have never even heard of it.

                                                                                                        My favorite is fries, gravy, cheese and vinegar, lots and lots of vinegar (white or malt).

                                                                                                        Was in Buffalo for a couple of days and ate at the hotel restaurant the whole time. Every meal (including breakfast) I would ask for vinegar. They always delivered apple cider vinegar to the table. Then on the last morning I asked for vinegar and the server asked if we wanted white. I couldn't beleive that for the entire weekend the restaurant had white vinegar and we were using the apple cider.

                                                                                                        As for poutine I agree that the best poutine is done with cheese curds, but here in Southern Ontario it is not easy to come by fresh cheese curds. Most restaurants here refer to poutine as fries, cheese and gravy.

                                                                                                        Oh and the gravy is brown, usually beef gravy but not always. Never would I eat my fries with white gravy or a cream gravy.

                                                                                                        Fries with curry also really good, but I only ate that when I lived in Scotland.

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                                                                                                        1. re: camp1980

                                                                                                          "Oh and the gravy is brown, usually beef gravy but not always. Never would I eat my fries with white gravy or a cream gravy."

                                                                                                          I'm with your there, camp1980!

                                                                                                          And I've never had fries with curry but it sounds intriguing. Do they only serve fries like that in Scotland/Britain?

                                                                                                          1. re: sierramum

                                                                                                            a British pub I worked at served curry & chips. it was curry sauce over crisp, british skin-on fries.

                                                                                                            1. re: sierramum

                                                                                                              I have seen fries with curry in a few pubs but to me it just wouldn't be the same. THe Scots do curry really well and I can't seem to find it as good at home so I have given up my search of a good curry.

                                                                                                          2. Anyone been to Permani Brothers in Pittsburg, deli sandwiches with fresh cut fries and slaw right on it, open 24-7. Ever been to Salt Lake City, the normal condiment there is "fry sauce" mayo and ketchup i assume cause its pink, and sometimes spiced up. I try to stay away but the chili cheese frys at Sonic are ridiculous. I always like to mix malt vinegar with my ketchup.

                                                                                                            1. a hearty yahoooooooooooooooooooo regarding poutine. You really must go north just to get some. My personal vote is for Jamie Kennedy's Wine bar in Toronto. His poutine is very fancy and a bit over the top which to me, added to it's fabulousness............ < is that a word?

                                                                                                              Primanti Bros in the Berg. Oh my heavens, that is one sandwich that is worth making a trip for. I ate the whole thing, while sitting at the bar, and then told the maker of my masterpiece, that I didn't like it and wanted a refund. He saw my empty napkin and paper plate, and laughed. I hugged him when I left, point being, I adored it.

                                                                                                              1. Primanti Bros, got it, I had pastrami and i'll never forget that sandwich.

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                                                                                                                1. re: Carmelizedbunions

                                                                                                                  Carmelizedbunions, the sandwiches with slaw and fries at primanti are great, but I think that the fries at the "Dirty O" are better. My favorite Primanti sandwich was the steak or pastrami.

                                                                                                                  I went to U-Pitt and we used to get a small order of fries and top them with gravy and malt vinegar and plenty of salt. It has been a few years since I have been to Quebec, but the food that is available there is amazing.

                                                                                                                2. irish pubs that have food usually will serve up a mean brown gravy that you can use for your fries. but nothing beats some crispy potato wedges smothered in cheddar, bacon, sour cream and chives. (which, coincidently, you can also get at most irish pubs)

                                                                                                                  i remember seeing poutine all over the place in montreal -- even on the menu at a burger king. i wasn't brave enough to try it then, but now i wish i would have. the other thing that was all over the place up there that i'd never heard of was "loose meat".

                                                                                                                  i kept asking people what kind of meat it was but everyone just looked at me like i was nuts.

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                                                                                                                  1. re: hitachino

                                                                                                                    If loose meat is there like it is in the midwestern U.S., it's seasoned ground beef, sort of like a sloppy joe but without the BBQ/tomato/whatever sauce. A sandwich made with it goes by different names in different places: in Iowa it's Maid-Rite, in Wichita Nu-Way, or maybe a generic Beef Burger like we used to serve at the municipal golf course where I used to work in Wichita.

                                                                                                                    1. re: hitachino

                                                                                                                      I've never seen loose meat in Canada, and I'm a Montrealer. Are you sure you don't mean "smoke meat" (AKA smoked meat)

                                                                                                                    2. Strange, I thought fries and gravy was a pretty normal thing.

                                                                                                                      When I visited Ottawa last, I ordered fries/gravy at a few places and they spike their gravy with curry - it is soooo good.

                                                                                                                      I like gravy on the side. Poutine is awesome, but I only usually end up eating 1/4 of what I order because of the soggy fries. Dipping a crisp fry into a side of gravy is the best.

                                                                                                                      1. Being from Southern California I have natural guilt eating any french fries that aren't baked. Sad isn't it.

                                                                                                                        When my mom and stepdad lived in Montreal, I would always step up to the trough and eat poutine at any chance especially in the winter, where you could hide behind layers of clothes. I can't here where it averages 72 year around. The real guilty pleasure is, I like the poutine at Mcdonalds the best.

                                                                                                                        1. Growing up in Texas, it was thin sliced fried with white sausage biscuits and biscuits.
                                                                                                                          In Colorado, green chile cheese fries.
                                                                                                                          In Mexico, McCains Super Crispers with pesto mayo.
                                                                                                                          Love them all.

                                                                                                                          1. I've definitely had them--a little bit of poutine and a lot of "disco fries" still exist in NYC. I'm not a big fan. I prefer to dip my fries so they don't get too soggy.

                                                                                                                            1. Loooove FF with Gravy! Beef gravy - one time I ordered it and they came with chicken gravy. yuck! I had them last month at a diner near my home, and I know by BIL gets them all the time back home in upstate NY.. for sure diner food, at least as far as I've seen.
                                                                                                                              When my DH and I were in London a couple years ago I made him go to the bar and order me some! LOL!!! They looked at him like he had sprouted and extra head! it was hilarious, and they tasted so good - he still hasn't forgiven me though! :)

                                                                                                                              1. I am from Poughkeepsie, NY and for lunch every day when I was in High School we all went to the nearest diner and had french fries and gravy and some added ketchup with salt and pepper. MMMMMM soooo good! Everyone here in texas thinks I am crazy and don't like it. Guess you have to be a blood yankee. :} I love em and crave for them and make them for myself.