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DrZayas Dec 20, 2006 06:15 PM

Anyone know of any good Hakka (Indian/Chinese) restaurants around the GTA?

Looking for top quality food and service...Price doesn't matter whatsoever.

TIA.

  1. Teep Dec 20, 2006 06:25 PM

    You might be new to this board. There is a Search feature at the top of the page, type in "Hakka" in the box and you can find the many previous discussions on this topic.

    I've been to Yueh Tung downtown, and another place in Malton, they are not bad. Many people say Fredericks is great.

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      redcoconut Dec 24, 2006 11:25 PM

      Hey teep, I go to Malton sometimes. Could you tell me the name of the place?

      Here in the eastside I frequent Danforth Dragon. The Chicken Pakoras rock! Everything else on their menu is good too, except for the Shanghai noodles.

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        Teep Dec 26, 2006 01:35 AM

        It's China Garden, 7071 Airport Road.

        http://www.chinagarden.ca/menu.htm

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      ghetto_scarlem Dec 20, 2006 06:28 PM

      Federick's Restaurant

      1920 Ellesmere Road (at Bellamy)
      Scarborough, Ontario M1H 2V6
      (416) 439-9234

      Mon - Thurs: 11 am - 10 pm
      Fri - Sat: 11 am - 11 pm
      Sun + Hol: 4 pm - 10 pm

      Chili chicken is very nice. Also any pakora.

      1. yummy in my tummy Dec 20, 2006 07:36 PM

        China Cottage at Ellesmere and Pharmacy is not bad. Nice volume for the price, but whether it is "authentic" hakka I dunno. It's also halal.

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          Yongeman Dec 20, 2006 07:43 PM

          Lin Garden on Pharmacy, just south of Sheppard. MMMmmmmmm...chili chicken and green beans.

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            galambo Dec 21, 2006 03:20 AM

            i'd second china cottage, but tell you avoid Fredericks at all cost.

            there is the ming room in Mississauga that very good
            there is Bombay chopstix (a little over priced).
            there are two rest on the corner of airport road and derry

            just to name a few <S>

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              Brain of J Dec 24, 2006 02:20 PM

              Avoid Federick's at all cost? That's pretty harsh. They serve up some pretty tasty Hakka classics. Sure, I prefer Lin Garden, but Feddy's is still a reliable Hakka restaurant.

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                galambo Dec 25, 2006 12:58 PM

                when i went there (twice to give it another chance) the chili chicken was dry, oily, and not at all spicy. while the china cottage was just the opposite. (same area)

                i just like to waste my time and money, and federick is way way over rated.

                though i prefer ming room if you ask me

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                  engkev2000 Jul 13, 2010 09:52 PM

                  Just order the Pakora at Ming Room and you can see how bad that place is.

                  Fredericks has great Chili Paneer.

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                  Ming Room
                  6461 Mississauga Rd, Mississauga, ON L5N1A6, CA

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                wordsworth Dec 25, 2006 02:58 PM

                Agree 100%. Federicks is absolute swill. There is no other description.

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                wp416 Aug 3, 2010 06:47 PM

                China Cottage is awesome. As a fan of Thai, Malaysian-Singaporean, and Indian food, Hakka is also one of my favorites. As far as I can see there is not a fixed menu at all Hakka places, and this makes sense because Hakka is a fusion cuisine (indian style chinese) and it's really anyone's guess which one of them is most authentic. They have a decent Thai menu as well (our favorite item on the menu is the mango salad, and the green-curry sauce chicken, tom yam soup, etc) but the best authentic hakka item is the Vegetarian Pakora in Manchurian Sauce. If someone can tell me that this isn't "authentic" then, I'd be glad of the education. But this place is a regular haunt for me, and I love it. Prices at China Cottage are really good, and the decor is a cut above the average Hakka place in Scarboro.

                Also worth checking out, for the cheap-eats fans out there, is Spicy Dragon, at Kennedy/Lawrence.

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                China Cottage Restaurant
                80 Ellesmere Rd, Toronto, ON M1R4C2, CA

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                bendale Dec 24, 2006 02:32 AM

                Lin Garden is tops!!! A favourite after-church spot, I spent an entire year eating at least twice a week there. You must try the green beans, for sure the chilli chicken (I once took a take-out container in my carry-on to a friend in Belfast who hadn't had it for over a year), but most people over look two of my favs: Shrimp Pakoras and Manchurian Beef-fried noodles. And the best part, the horrible easy-listening music. Can't get enough of Celine Dion, Brian Adams, and Don Henley.

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                  Aardvark Mar 9, 2007 11:58 AM

                  I tried out Lin Garden recently based on the comments on this board. I used the shrimp pakoras as the comparator food since the shrimp pakoras at Federicks have historically been outstanding (I haven't been there is a while and last time I wasn't as impresssed).

                  I found the shrimp pakoras at Lin Garden to be overly doughy and not even in the same ballpark as Federicks. It's conceivable Federicks has gone down hill since I have last been there (about a year) but on pakoras alone I wasn't impressed with Lin Garden.

                  I have to get back to Federicks to see if it is now as bad as some posters state.

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                    gastrojunkie Jul 13, 2010 10:12 PM

                    Love Lin Garden... their Chili Chicken is amazing

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                    Lin Garden
                    1806 Pharmacy Ave, Toronto, ON M1T1H6, CA

                  2. TOchowgal Jan 26, 2007 05:31 PM

                    Chung Moi at Kennedy & Eglinton (Scarborough). Theri chili chicken is so good. You have to try the green beans dish with black bean sauce. I am South Asian and I go here for my hakka food fix all the way from etobicoke.

                    Chung Moi Chinese Restaurant
                    2412 Eglinton Av E
                    Scarborough, ON M1K2P3
                    (416) 755-5293

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                      beany Mar 26, 2008 08:57 PM

                      Yeah I love Chung Moi. Its my family's favourite when we're in that area. In Etobicoke we go to China Garden (first choice), and more recently Faley's, but just for lunch.

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                        cedric Apr 21, 2012 05:28 PM

                        In the same strip mall as Faley, we tried Salt (and?) Pepper take-out on a reco. Great food! Huge portions! We expected it to be spicy, so we asked for mild everything, and it was just right. Tried the Chinese Chicken Biryani - 'mild' was still a bit spicy, but very flavourful. Shrimp Hakka noodles tasty and just a little oily. Each food section had a Manuchurian item, so we had the Manchurian fish. It was about 10 fish portions, battered and fried, and swimming in a tasty manchu sauce.

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                      Calam1ty Jan 28, 2007 05:53 AM

                      Spadina Gardens on Dundas west of Bay. My favourites - hot and spicy peanut chicken or shrimp, their hot and sour, the sesame cold noodles, the wontons with peanut sauce. You notice a trend?

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                        Poorboy Jul 2, 2008 08:44 PM

                        The Mrs. went to Spadina Garden last Thursday with some friends.
                        They ordered Lemon Chicken, Vegetable Rice, Hunan Spicy Beef and Hot and Spicy Peanut Chicken.
                        The food was excellent according to them. They "held" the extra hot on the chicken as per request and they did. Mrs. says the food was very tasty and all of them enjoyed.
                        Service was the downside.
                        It was busy when they first arrived.
                        After completing their meal, they waited at least 20 minutes and then a waiter finally arrived with their fortune cookies and their cheque.
                        They were not asked if they wanted anything else to eat or drink before the cheque arrived. Right after that, a busser arrived to clear the table before they even left and they commented that they were considering a coffee and dessert however he just replied that he was sorry and had to clean the table.
                        Good soldier I guess he was lol
                        At this time there were many tables available, just after 9PM.
                        I guess it is what is, so beware the service/communication issue. :)

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                          Danybear Jun 21, 2009 09:04 PM

                          Well now that they have bad service down pat, they have added bad food. Had dinner with a friend who sister recommended, but we obviously we didn't order the stuff she does. Crispy beef looked very bloated in its heavy batter, sugar snap peas and black beans had NO flavor, and I shudder to think what portion of the bird was used to prepare Orange Chicken. The major ingredient seemed to be 10W30!. The two egg rolls appeared about 30 seconds after we ordered them, followed by the crispy beef (how could it have had time to be overcooked?, altho it was). The waiter forgot our orange chicken, and we should have.

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                        indiegirl2 Jan 28, 2007 10:53 AM

                        Just in case you ever are in the Brampton area, there is a Hakka restaurant at Torbram and Peter Robertson. Name is Savi Kavi. It is the only hakka restaurant I have see or eaten in, but I swear it is the best Hot and Sour soup I have EVER eaten.

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                          EASTENDCURRY Feb 17, 2007 02:23 PM

                          There is a place in a strip mall at Rexdale and Islington.I think it's called Falay. I've only ever been there twice.I remeber a crispy as in not over cooked veg dish that had green chilli and sesame it was just great.

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                            SocksManly Jun 25, 2008 08:19 PM

                            Got curious, it's called "Faley"

                            42 Rexdale Boulevard
                            Etobicoke, ON M9W 5Z3, Canada
                            (416) 746-4948

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                              Bobby Wham Jun 26, 2008 09:16 AM

                              Is there any Hakka restaurants downtown? I'm jealous of all my Scarborough friends that get to eat it whenever.

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                                Teep Jul 3, 2008 07:41 AM

                                Yueh Tung, on Dundas just west of Bay, on the second floor.
                                Danforth Dragon, at Danforth & Jones.

                                Some consider Spadina Garden Hakka, but AFAIK they don't serve Mongolian Chicken or Pakoras, so to me they're only Canadian-Szechuan.

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                                  WingMan72 Jul 3, 2008 10:26 AM

                                  Yueh Tung barely does Hakka. Only the chili chicken is any good and that can change depending on the day.

                                  Danforth Dragon for sure.

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                                    JennaBean Jan 4, 2012 07:44 AM

                                    Tried Danforth Dragon last night and was pleasantly pleased. The Chilli Paneer with Chinese Greens was the winning dish but the Singapore Rice Noodles were a close second. The only dish we didn't enjoy (just personal pref) was the Manchurian Chicken. Just not out thing.

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                                  cedric Apr 21, 2012 05:29 PM

                                  Also try Salt Pepper in the same mall, at #50. Good food (we asked for 'mild' and it was nicely flavoured). and big portions for take out.

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                                Sandybandy Jun 26, 2008 11:11 AM

                                I have 2 places I go to....one is Royal Chinese Seafood Restaurant at 735 Middlefield Rd in Scarborough (Middlefield and Steeles). The name is totally weird but all they do is Hakka...it is awesome there. They make great noodles and their Chili Paneer is to die for.

                                Now that I live in Richmond Hill I go to Willy's - 10459 Yonge St (on Yonge between Major Mackenzie and Elgin Mills). Good prices and good food...yes I know this isn't "GTA" but I had to speak about 2 of my fav places!

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                                  sweetie Jul 3, 2008 06:59 AM

                                  I don't think Royal is there anymore. I drove by the other day and it looks like it is an Indian restaurant now.

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                                    chowsta Nov 24, 2008 04:52 PM

                                    Royal Chinese Seafood Restaurant is great. It is most frequented by actual indian hakka patrons. Try their Royal Seafood Soup, it is amazing. And yes it is still there, the intersection is actually Middlefield and McNicoll.

                                  2. Jacquilynne Jul 3, 2008 07:28 AM

                                    There's a new restaurant on Keele just South of Wilson (in the plaza on the west side of Keele, not the side with the gas station) that advertises itself as Hakka Thai. I didn't even know that was possible, and I haven't tried it, but I offer it up for the consideration of those reading this thread nonetheless.

                                    1. atomeyes Jul 3, 2008 07:55 AM

                                      we went to a place on Rexdale just a block east of Airport Road. on the north side of the street, there's a strip mall that you can't see from Derry/Rexdale. you can only see the driveway. anyways, its a hakka place at the far end of the strip mall.
                                      lunch specials are $7 each and include a pretty good hot and sour soup.
                                      we had their pad thai and it was nice and spicy and lacked the ketchup.

                                      i've eaten there dozens of times over the years. its pretty good for what you get. Been to Federicks before and i think its better than Federicks. just don't expect gourmet or good service. and they have a lot of north american chinese options.

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                                        beany Jul 4, 2008 07:12 PM

                                        Is this China Palace?

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                                        frankyflwrs Jul 3, 2008 08:26 AM

                                        There's a place on Markham Rd, just south of 14th....Ya, it's greater toronto...

                                        Tangerine Asian Cuisine.

                                        There Mancurian Chicken (dry) is amazing, and they have a great lunch special for $5.99.

                                        http://www.tangerineasiancuisine.com/

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                                          capiscum Nov 14, 2009 12:23 PM

                                          Tangerine! 4 Eva!

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                                          NewtonSquare Jul 4, 2008 07:54 AM

                                          We are regulars at "Bao-Shin" (Hakka Indian & Pakistani Chinese Rest.) 3066 Hurontario, Mississauga, just N/of Dundas St. 905-615-0501 Over a hundred items on the menu in the $6.50 to $8/9+ range. Manchurian chicken, beef, fish, etc. Service is fast and friendly and food is excellent. You can order whatever "heat" suits you. The dishes are large so go there hungry, we always bring home a doggy bag for the next day.

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                                            ziggystardust Jul 6, 2008 09:42 AM

                                            Nothing downtown? I'm dying for chili chicken!

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                                            zeeroid Jul 7, 2008 04:46 PM

                                            I've been to a bunch of these places, and quite frankly Federick's is still by far the best Hakka place around in my opinion, among those I've tried.

                                            Lin Garden
                                            --- Although the portion sizes are simply absurd, as in in some cases a single dish could fill three people, the food I find mediocre, and not that appetizing. Their chili chicken, which is basically my benchmark for Hakka cuisine, contained very little chicken and mostly skin/coating, and was very fatty. I wanted chili chicken, not chili fat with chicken on the side. The hakka chow mein was disappointing as well, which is another of my staples (although damn, the portions are HUGE!)

                                            Tangerine
                                            --- Altogether not bad, and for those in the northeast, it's in a pretty convenient location (I'm from Markham, myself), but the food just doesn't really do it for me. Not bad, but even Lin Garden is preferable, in my opinion.

                                            China Cottage
                                            --- I went there once, at the recommendation of a friend, who specifically stated it was better than Federick's, and while the food was certainly good, probably still just the second best in the city for me. Federick's wins, overall. The chefs are just more experienced, and although I've not been to China Cottage in a very long time, I recall that the value wasn't great.

                                            Spadina Garden
                                            --- Okay, but definitely more of a Szechuan joint, except with Hakka owners, so they serve up some of that too. It's not bad, but hardly authentic.

                                            Wang's Kitchen
                                            --- Pretty good food, and probably the best I've had in the Mississauga area so far, so if you're from that part of town, I recommend it quite highly.

                                            Chung Moi
                                            --- Really good, and their soup is great. I know the owners fairly well, and they're nice people who deserve the business. In the long run, still prefer Federick's food for most of my benchmarks, except for the chili chicken which I find to be equally good at Chung Moi - in fact, it's probably the same recipe. I believe the chef used to work at Federick's... haven't they all, though?

                                            I believe that's all the places I've been to, or at least remember (there was another place I've been but for the life of me can't remember the name, although I specifically recall agreeing that Federick's was superior). I may have also been to Ming Room, although remember only by name, and not by the food or service. Still, I believe it was good, especially if you're from Mississauga.

                                            But, yes, the point I'm getting at is that Federick's is still out and out the winner! They were the first, and as far as I know, the business originated in Mumbai, where they also were among the better Hakka Chinese restaurants. Some of the people who believe Federick's is bad or simply prefer some of the other places I've mentioned either have had bad luck at Feddy's, or simply prefer dishes that they aren't necessarily the best in. But as for my staples, which include Chili Chicken, Hakka Chow Mein, Chicken Pakora and Crispy Beef, Federick's is definitely the best, by a good margin. It wouldn't be a bad idea to try the other places to get an idea, especially because Feddy's is probably not the best at everything; in fact I do remember experimenting with a certain dish once there and finding it quite sub-par (don't remember which anymore, unfortunately). Either way... go to Fed! Its name can be abbreviated in the same way as Roger Federer, and you can't go wrong with that ; )

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                                              Brain of J Jul 10, 2008 10:25 AM

                                              Feddy's definitely fits the bill when you've got a hankering for some Hakka. I've never understood the poor reviews either. They've pretty much got the Hakka staples nailed. That being said, I'll still give Lin Garden the nod over it.

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                                                Yongeman Jul 10, 2008 12:06 PM

                                                With respect, zeeroid, my experiences with Lin Garden chili chicken are nothing like you describe. The chicken has always been plentifuly, and not at all fatty. I found the Hakka chow mein kind of boring, but I LOVE the Lin Garden green beans and chili chicken.

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                                                  zeeroid Jul 10, 2008 06:14 PM

                                                  Considering that, I intend to give Lin Garden another chance, but still, my experience there was rather poor for everything I ordered, except the pakoras, which were as good, though certainly no better than Federick's. There's no doubting the value at LG though so that's definitely the biggest plus for me. I'd go again, when I want a change of pace. Perhaps I just got unlucky that day with the chili chicken.

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                                                    montrealer70 Jul 12, 2008 10:21 AM

                                                    I have been eating Chili chicken from Lin Garden for years, and much less lately because most of our batches have been chock full of fatty globby breading with less than 50% of the container being chicken. I completely agree with Zerroid on this one. I just tried Feddy's Chili Chicken last night, at the recommendation of my neighbor and this website. The dish is incredible. The sauce has the identical taste to Lin Garden, but is about 20% thinner. The chicken, however, is MUCH more wholesome, as 95% of the container was wholesome chicken. I have had good batches of chili chicken from Lin Garden, and when they are ON, I think theirs is unbeatable, however, I have had so many bad batches (the last 4-5 times) that we hardly ever go there anymore. For a while, it will be Feddy's for us !!! Their menu also features a lot of cantonese, szechuan, and other dishes that Lin Garden doesn't serve, so I'm going to try a lot of their other dishes and report back. Thanks for the Reco. p.s. On a positive for Lin Garden, their Manchurian Chicken Fried Rice is the best in the city.

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                                                      Yongeman Jul 12, 2008 12:36 PM

                                                      I've been enjoying Lin Garden chili chicken for a while now. I'll admit that it's only a once-in-a-while thing for me, so the quality could have slipped since I've last been. I'm going to try it again soon, and I'll post back here.

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                                                  Ediblethoughts Jul 13, 2008 02:03 PM

                                                  Just curious but would you recommend any of those places for veg hakka or seafood hakka dishes?

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                                                    WingMan72 Nov 9, 2008 06:55 AM

                                                    No Danforth Dragon on your list. Check it out.

                                                    A buddy saw a new place around 5633 Finch ave E. Any word on this place?

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                                                      TOFoodGuy Nov 17, 2008 09:36 AM

                                                      I just went to this place and it's called Desi Cheena. It's pretty much brand new with new owners and they are super friendly (really good service). The food is really good and the prices are pretty decent considering the portions. I had the Chili Chicken and the good thing is there is lots of chicken (not too much batter) and not too oily. ohh and their website is www.desicheena.com

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                                                        Mitzimouse Nov 25, 2008 12:55 PM

                                                        Agree, Danforth Dragon is a great little place with good service. I am totally jonesing right now for their shrimpball appetizers. YUUUUMM!!!

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                                                          pescatarian Nov 26, 2008 05:25 AM

                                                          I'd have to disagree about Danforth Dragon. I found the food overly greasy and overly salty and not a good balance of flavours at all.

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                                                            dilipg2 Oct 5, 2012 03:37 PM

                                                            I second that - Danforth Dragon wasn't the greatest of choices when it comes to the TO Hakka scene.

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                                                          embee Nov 26, 2008 07:36 AM

                                                          Danforth Dragon is near where I live and also delivers, but I'd disagree with that recommendation. We thought it was terrible.

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                                                          Dr Butcher Mar 26, 2009 09:23 PM

                                                          I had the Manchurian fried rice at Tangerine in Whitby and found it incredibly oily. The Chili Chicken had nice pieces of chicken but was overly sauced (I'll have to try it dry). The Beef with spicy garlic sauce was plain gross. How does beef end up tasting like seafood, prepackaged minced garlic perhaps? The only standout in my opinion was the chicken pakoras, they are nicely spiced and have big chunks of chicken in them. At $9.25 per order they are a little over priced.

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                                                          tochowchick Jul 10, 2008 12:11 PM

                                                          I'm not sure I'm an expert but I've eaten a lot of Hakka and Kimling at Birchmount and Lawrence has some pretty yummy Hakka dishes...their squid is wonderful and I love their green bean dish...they never let me down!!

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                                                            goaneat Jul 10, 2008 01:29 PM

                                                            try Spicy Dragon at Kennedy and Lawrence. I think you will enjoy it.

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                                                              idnas Jul 13, 2008 04:48 PM

                                                              I haven't tried their veg or seafood, but if their pakoras and green beans are any indication, you can't go wrong with Spicy Dragon.

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                                                                tochowchick Jul 13, 2008 04:56 PM

                                                                Thanks guys...I'll try it for sure...

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                                                                  SinghIsKing Jul 24, 2008 11:22 AM

                                                                  I think it is a matter of personal preference. I think Yueh Tung is the best in Chilli Chicken.

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                                                                    estufarian Jul 24, 2008 12:01 PM

                                                                    I agree - it is a matter of preference. And I don't prefer Yueh Tung - see my report on my worst meal of 2008 - at Yueh Tung in
                                                                    http://www.chowhound.com/topics/478446

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                                                                Phillip Sticky Sep 3, 2009 09:58 AM

                                                                I wholeheartedly agree - Spicy Dragon. The table service needs improvement but the food is top notch.

                                                            2. Bobby Wham Nov 10, 2008 10:36 AM

                                                              I've had fredrick's before and it was really good, we hit Lin Garden last week and it was lacking flavour, we got the hakka chowmain (boring) chilli chicken (no flavour whatsoever, just spice) crispy beef was good but still lacking flavour, chicken pakora's were good but pink meat inside? EW, the best dish was the green beans, I won't be going back.

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                                                                Dr Butcher Nov 17, 2008 08:05 PM

                                                                I have to agree about Lin Garden, I hadn't been in a while and went a couple of months back. The pakoras were still a little gummy in the middle, chili chicken was full of gristle and lacked flavour other than heat, crispy beef was good but on the tough side, Manchurian fried rice was overcooked and mushy, the green beans were excellent. It's a decent value but lacked much flavour at all. They used to be very consistent but if others are noticing the same things as me, something's up.

                                                              2. Charles Yu Nov 24, 2008 05:07 PM

                                                                There's one next to Cafe Michi ( Sheppard/Pharmacy). Believe name is Lotus Garden. ALWAYS PACKED! I myself havn't tried it, but heard good things about it from talking to Toshi San of Michi.

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                                                                  Wahooty Nov 24, 2008 05:15 PM

                                                                  Lin Garden. I have been pretty happy with it, but recent comments around here imply that it's either gone downhill or is getting inconsistent. I wouldn't know - I've only lived in the neighborhood for the last two years and had never heard of Hakka before I moved here, so I can't vouch for what it used to be like. But for what it's worth, their chili chicken is one of the best things ever to have in your fridge when you come home after a few beers. ;)

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                                                                  arugula Jan 31, 2009 02:30 PM

                                                                  I live near the Danforth Dragon. I don't like everything on their menu (the soups in particular), but there are a few really good things. One is the spicy dried beef (to die for, and possible die from, since it's deep fried, sweet and deliciously salty), and the pakoras. There is also a spicy diced chicken dish I really like.

                                                                  I'm not sure how far out of the way I'd go for it, but the staff is incredibly sweet, and a couple of the dishes are very nice. I'm not a big fan of the Danforth for food, but this place is quirky and nice for the money.

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                                                                    jlherman Jul 9, 2009 02:58 AM

                                                                    I went to Danforth Dragon two nights ago. I ordered the Jeera beef, Chili Chicken, Chicken Pakoras and Hakka Chow Mein. I have never had any other Hakka food before but for what it is worth I really enjoyed the Pakora's, Chow Mein and a bit of the Chili Chicken. I didn't enjoy the Jeera Beef, but I find the overall fusion is not a successful one. I think their prices were reasonable and of very acceptable quality by Hakka standards (one of my friends told me about the place).

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                                                                      Ediblethoughts Jul 9, 2009 05:40 AM

                                                                      Did you happen to notice if there were any Hakka dishes that were veg or seafood-based? (Trying to imagine the Hakka Chow Mein...)

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                                                                        jlherman Jul 9, 2009 04:09 PM

                                                                        They had it all, seafood and veggies. If not, I am 100% sure they would cater to your tastes anyways.

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                                                                          Ediblethoughts Jul 10, 2009 12:43 PM

                                                                          OK, I'll add it to my list of Visit Sometime Soon.

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                                                                            Ediblethoughts Aug 29, 2009 06:04 PM

                                                                            Finally tried this place out and your recommendation was right on. The food was so tasty and whatever variations I asked for were made without fuss. My only (minor) complaint is the food looks kind of boring since the dishes we ordered only had one ingredient (shrimp in one, tofu in another and greens in the another); in "usual" Chinese cooking, the dishes come with a variety of other veg and such. Not the case here. But it was so tasty and satisfying, I didn't really mind.

                                                                    2. Brain of J Jul 10, 2009 12:32 PM

                                                                      If anyone is in Brampton, there's a fairly new (I think) Hakka restaurant in the plaza at the corner of Hurontario and Ray Lawson BLVD. It's called China Garden. I'm not sure if it's owned by the same owners as the place that goes by the same name on Airport road, but wow, was it good and spicy!!! We had the Hunan fish--excellent, chili chicken---great, shrimp pakora--piping hot and delish, and Manchurian fried rice----perfectly done.

                                                                      The place was very clean and the service was very friendly and helpful. A very nice dining experience, unlike sometimes the way I feel about dining in at Lin Garden :-)

                                                                      On second thought, the place might be called "New China Garden."

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                                                                        Bhangra Pimp Jul 12, 2009 10:46 PM

                                                                        Yeah, that's the same owner as the Airport Road "China Garden". Although, I do find a bit of a difference between their location and the other one. For example, the Manchurian Vegetable Pakora (with gravy) is pretty different, and better at the original location. The original China Garden is still my favourite for Chili Chicken. Other places I do enjoy are Tangerine out in Marham (garlic shrimp are awesome), Faley's at Islington/Woodbine (honey garlic chicken = more awesomeness), and Eddie's Wok N Roll at Erin Mills and Millcreek (love the Sweet n Sour Manchurian chicken).

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                                                                        irishsting Aug 4, 2009 09:14 AM

                                                                        The Ming Room in Mississauga - it's amazing!

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                                                                          towkay Aug 30, 2009 03:16 AM

                                                                          It appears that Hakka restaurants in the GTA may be Hakka chefs/owners originating from India.
                                                                          Typical Chinese Hakka dishes are Yong tau foo, salt baked chicken, kiu nyuk.... Never heard of Hakka pakoras or chilli chicken.
                                                                          Good salt baked chicken/kiu nyuk/yong tau foo are dishes to die for!

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                                                                            Blueicus Sep 3, 2009 10:57 AM

                                                                            Most of the Toronto "Hakka food" threads refer to indian/chinese fusion as opposed to Mainland Hakka. However, I would be interested in learning of any restaurant that does serve the second category of eats.

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                                                                              Teep Sep 3, 2009 11:47 AM

                                                                              Nowadays Chinese Hakka cuisine is folded into the Cantonese camp. Before I read about Indian Hakka on Chow and looked into what is Chinese Hakka, I thought dishes like salt baked chicken, stuffed bean curd, fatty pork with preserved greens (梅菜扣肉), deep fried pig intestines etc. are all Cantonese in origin, but they are actually Hakka. Most "regular" Chinese restaurants will have a selection of these.

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                                                                                skylineR33 Sep 3, 2009 11:56 AM

                                                                                Well, if you do more research on Hakka people, it will explain your question between Cantonese and Hakka.

                                                                            2. re: towkay
                                                                              MeXx Aug 15, 2010 01:36 PM

                                                                              Maybe this thread should be renamed to something more appropriate? Indian-Chinese cuisine?

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                                                                                towkay Jan 2, 2011 04:06 AM

                                                                                Definitely! No where close to hakka cuisine.

                                                                            3. zed1984 Nov 12, 2009 10:58 AM

                                                                              Last nite Partner + I, ate THE most delicious hakka-indian food on the danforth.
                                                                              A sort of desolate part of the strip, we stumbled across a tiny little restaurant where a man was cooking right in the window with a huge wok and lots of chilis.
                                                                              We went in and they were so incredibly friendly. We ate CHILI chicken w/ gravy, manchurian paneer, and Hakka CHow Mein and finished with homemade saffron tapioca pudding.
                                                                              Owner is guyanese indian, chef is hakka from tibet/india. Chef came out and spoke with us at length. Everything was unbelievably good, everything made super fresh, we ate very well for 30 $ . We live across the city, but I am already planning a return in the next 2 weeks. really incredible great chow find..
                                                                              Agni Indian Style Hakka Chinese
                                                                              2825 Danforth Ave
                                                                              416-699-1177

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                                                                                mariecollins Jul 14, 2010 06:44 AM

                                                                                I've been passing that place for ages without trying it. I'll give it a go and report back too.

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                                                                                  estufarian Jul 14, 2010 07:01 AM

                                                                                  I went after the original post.
                                                                                  Very pleasant people. Food was very greasy - I didn't return.

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                                                                                Jar Nov 15, 2009 10:38 AM

                                                                                Finally tried Hakka No. 1 Restaurant at 2440 Finch West. ( A great Thai restaurant was there and the owners have opened a fancier Thai Restaurant in Hwy 7 & 400 area ). Anyway, did not expect too much Hakka as the window offers a $5.50 lunch special. At lunch, certainly many diners at that price! Once inside, you are offered pop or soup and selecting from about 10 or 12 choices, you receive your choice with rice and a spring roll. Lots of food, very average and well not Hakka like. Took a take out menu which tells you a lot, most items very Chinese, but the kicker is about a12 Thai dishes and 5 Caribbean ( Guyana ) dishes on the menu!!!!

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                                                                                  Fancypants42 Nov 15, 2009 11:12 AM

                                                                                  Danforth Dragon!!!!

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                                                                                  861 Danforth Ave, Toronto, ON M4J, CA

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                                                                                    garfield Nov 15, 2009 04:30 PM

                                                                                    I second China Cottage at 56 ELLESMERE RD
                                                                                    The Indian restaurant nearby, Tiffin, is pretty good as well.
                                                                                    There is one other place nearby that nobody has mentioned and its very good-
                                                                                    Chopsticks Szechuan Chinese Restaurant at 1153 ELLESMERE RD

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                                                                                    80 Ellesmere Rd, Toronto, ON M1R4C2, CA

                                                                                    Chopsticks Szechuan Chinese Restaurant
                                                                                    1163 Ellesmere Rd, Toronto, ON M1P2X6, CA

                                                                                    1. BodybuildingEric Jun 14, 2010 01:39 PM

                                                                                      Federick's rules. I've been going there on and off for twelve years and have tried the other hakka wannabes in the GTA... no one else measures up to Federick's for authentic hakka cuisine. If you want it any more authentic, you'd have to go to Mumbai.

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                                                                                        Supamav Aug 3, 2010 03:56 PM

                                                                                        Take a look at my post from today.

                                                                                        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/725023

                                                                                        Hakka Fusion, brand new, shows some promise.

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                                                                                        1670 Kingston Rd, Pickering, ON L1V 5R1, CA

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                                                                                          bittenkitten Aug 3, 2010 05:54 PM

                                                                                          Our favourite is Asian Wok'n'Roll, on Airport at Derry. Not expensive, not flashy, but really good Indo-Chinese every time we go!

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                                                                                            garfield Aug 3, 2010 07:00 PM

                                                                                            Went to Lin Garden recently.
                                                                                            Had Chicken Pakoras . Could only finish half. They were bland and unremarkable.
                                                                                            Chilli Chicken: Tasted fair but nothing exceptional
                                                                                            Hakka Noodle: Didn't touch the dish. Was smelling of stale chicken.
                                                                                            I would not return.

                                                                                            The only place that has always given me a good meal is China Cottage.

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                                                                                            Lin Garden
                                                                                            1806 Pharmacy Ave, Toronto, ON M1T1H6, CA

                                                                                            China Cottage Restaurant
                                                                                            80 Ellesmere Rd, Toronto, ON M1R4C2, CA

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                                                                                              the_hungry_one Aug 4, 2010 01:21 PM

                                                                                              1.) Lin Garden - Scarborough
                                                                                              2.) Fredricks - Scarborough
                                                                                              3.) Hakka Village - Brampton

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                                                                                              Lin Garden
                                                                                              1806 Pharmacy Ave, Toronto, ON M1T1H6, CA

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                                                                                                juliancanada Aug 8, 2010 11:32 AM

                                                                                                i drive and pick up on the way home - start off east driving west - 1st Fredricks - no one does chilli shrimp better than they do 2dn stop kennedy and progress HOT WOK amazing place for chilli chicken DRY and chilli fish DRY (they are the best hakka place) finally i might stop sometimes at Lin Garden and pick up some chicken Pakora and fried banna ice cream to drive home and eat.

                                                                                                today is sunday at 230pm and only Lin Garden is open - others open later
                                                                                                i am going to spend a good deal of money on hakka food. Its the best bang for the buck

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                                                                                                  Yongeman Aug 8, 2010 02:33 PM

                                                                                                  You're obsessed, juliancanada. Love it.

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                                                                                                    Paulustrious Sep 14, 2010 03:10 PM

                                                                                                    I had driven past Hot Wok before but the outside appearance put me of...

                                                                                                    http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=19+Trimontium+Crescent,+Toronto,+Toronto+Division,+Ontario+M4C+5N7,+Canada&ll=43.769575,-79.281571&spn=0,0.02296&z=16&layer=c&cbll=43.769537,-79.281713&panoid=0WaSmnQCpj3hM2N4JwX92g&cbp=12,210.91,,0,2.5

                                                                                                    It's hardly mentioned on Chow, but I noticed this bunch of reviews on another site that say we should give it a try...

                                                                                                    http://www.goodspot.ca/profile/1198/H...

                                                                                                2. Paulustrious Aug 9, 2010 04:12 AM

                                                                                                  Not recommendations, just a list...

                                                                                                  Apharak Restaurant, South West corner of Finch/Kennedy
                                                                                                  China Cottage, North West corner of Ellesmere/Pharmacy
                                                                                                  China Garden, 7071 Airport Road
                                                                                                  Chung Moi, North West corner of Kennedy/Eglinton
                                                                                                  Dragon Danforth Chinese Restaurant, 861 Danforth Avenue
                                                                                                  Flora Restaurant, North East corner of Markham-Lawrence
                                                                                                  Fredericks, North East corner of Bellamy-Ellesmere
                                                                                                  Hakka Villa, North West corner of Pharmacy-Ellesmere
                                                                                                  Kimling Restaurant, South East corner of Birchmount-Lawrence
                                                                                                  Lin Garden Restaurant, South/West corner of Shepard/Pharmacy
                                                                                                  Lucky Chinese Restaurant, North/East corner of Eglinton/Kennedy
                                                                                                  Oriental Cuisine, 1831 Lawrence Avenue E.
                                                                                                  Yummy Yummy Restaurant, South West corner of Denison/McCowan

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                                                                                                  Lin Garden
                                                                                                  1806 Pharmacy Ave, Toronto, ON M1T1H6, CA

                                                                                                  Kimling
                                                                                                  2173 Lawrence Ave E, Toronto, ON M1P2P5, CA

                                                                                                  China Cottage Restaurant
                                                                                                  80 Ellesmere Rd, Toronto, ON M1R4C2, CA

                                                                                                  South East Cafe
                                                                                                  97 Seaway Rd, Sarnia, ON N7T8E6, CA

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                                                                                                    meatnveg Aug 14, 2010 10:55 PM

                                                                                                    Add one more

                                                                                                    Tangerine (On Markham rd. same plaza as Canadian Tire): My uncles family loves this place. And, from the p.o.v. of someone who grew up in New Delhi, I can say this chili chicken is akin to the ones I had 'back home'. Whether or not it's good is for the taster to decide

                                                                                                    P.S. their other favorite is Desi Cheena, i believe

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                                                                                                      dvkrani Dec 1, 2010 08:55 AM

                                                                                                      Completely disagree on Tangerine. The decor is nice I think that throws everyone off. The food has no flavour. I ordered garlic chicken, although it was covered in minced garlic pieces - it had no garlic taste! The place obviously uses minced garlic from a jar. I cook better than that at home.

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                                                                                                      7690 Markham Rd, Markham, ON L3S4S1, CA

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                                                                                                      foodyDudey Dec 1, 2010 09:08 AM

                                                                                                      Here is one that nobody mentioned, which I like:

                                                                                                      Hakka No 1 Asian Cuisine
                                                                                                      416-743-8088

                                                                                                      2440 Finch Ave W, North York, ON M9M 2E1

                                                                                                      That is at the corner of Finch Ave W and Milvan drive.

                                                                                                      My parents and siblings like the food there. About 3 weeks ago, I ordered food for 7 people at a cost of $62, (10)% off if paid by cash) and still had loads left over after we all ate. It's worth a try if you are in the area. I can post a list of what I ordered last time if anyone is interested, but I've never had anything that I didn't like.

                                                                                                      It's odd going there to pick up food, when I was a kid it was a TD bank.

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                                                                                                        Jacquilynne Mar 10, 2011 02:35 PM

                                                                                                        I noticed a second branch of this is opening or has opened at Keele & Lawrence. Somewhat oddly, yet amusingly, they are calling it Hakaa No 1 Asian Cuisine #2. I'm not even sure they're up and running yet, I just saw the sign for the first time today. It's in the little plaza South of the Metro, next to the Tim Horton's.

                                                                                                        (Where the Curves Fitness used to be, for those familiar with the neighborhood. Or who used to be members of that Curves until it shut down and forced them to join a real gym which then shut down their pool and forced them to join a different real gym. Not that I speak from personal experience or anything.)

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                                                                                                      anamika Aug 9, 2010 09:49 PM

                                                                                                      My current Hakka favs
                                                                                                      1. Kim Kim (1188 Kennedy Rd, Scarborough) - My Top fav. Excellent food and decent service.
                                                                                                      2. Chung Moi (2412 Eglinton Avenue East, Scarborough). Food is fine, but not good service. Too packed since it is a very small place. The owner lady has some attitude.
                                                                                                      3. Rasa Sayang (2579 Victoria Park Avenue, North York). Friendly owners and HUGE quantity. Food not bad.
                                                                                                      4. Lin Garden (1806 Pharmacy Avenue, Scarborough). Used to be great but still I go there since it is close to my work. Not bad overall. Friendly owners.
                                                                                                      5. Wok with Yu (789 Warden Avenue, Scarborough) Not bad. Chicken Pakora was excellent.
                                                                                                      6. Frederick (1920 Ellesmere Road, Scarborough) Used to be the king. These days, I find that they are a mere shadow of their former self.

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                                                                                                      1806 Pharmacy Ave, Toronto, ON M1T1H6, CA

                                                                                                      Victoria Park Restaurant
                                                                                                      335 Durham Market St N, Kincardine, ON N2Z1Z4, CA

                                                                                                      Kim Kim Restaurant
                                                                                                      1188 Kennedy road, Toronto, ON M1P 2L1, CA

                                                                                                      Rasa Sayang
                                                                                                      2579 Victoria Park Ave, Toronto, ON M1T1A4, CA

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                                                                                                        Aardvark Jan 2, 2011 08:04 AM

                                                                                                        Agreed that Federick is not what it used to be in the late 90"s. I had Lin Garden a week ago and regretted I did a couple of hours later.

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                                                                                                        1806 Pharmacy Ave, Toronto, ON M1T1H6, CA

                                                                                                      2. Teep Aug 10, 2010 01:45 PM

                                                                                                        There's a new one downtown, on Spadina near Nassau, next to New Ho King I believe, it's called Chili *something*. Someone please check it out!

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                                                                                                        416 Spadina Ave, Toronto, ON M5T2G7, CA

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                                                                                                          terrycar Aug 15, 2010 11:38 AM

                                                                                                          I think you may be referring to the Canton Chili Restaurant. I was there some months ago and I remember it being alright-especially for the price point. I think it's the only Hakka place in the area so I don't know how it stacks up against the other ones mentioned here.

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                                                                                                          n10sity Dec 5, 2010 04:15 PM

                                                                                                          We've just had dinner at 5 spices on Gerrard, and I felt it necessary to post my review on Chowhound (it's been over a year since my last post because nothing new has excited me enough to warrant a post). This is my third experience at a Hakka or Indian-style Chinese place (sorry not sure what Hakka vs. Indian Style Chinese is). First was Yueh Tung, second was Lin Garden- which actually turned me off the cuisine. But thought I'd try again and I'm so glad I did. In comparison to these two places, 5 spices is so much more flavourful and what I imagine a fusion between Chinese and Indian spices should taste like. We had a starter called something Bhel, which was a cold noodle salad with crisp fried noodles tossed with tomatoes, coriander and a nutty, sweet and spicy sauce. I've never had anything like it but I'm hooked. For mains we had Bombay Chicken and Chili Paneer (both come with basmati rice). The Bombay Chicken was amazing with true layers of flavour (unlike Lin Garden and Yueh Tung's chili chicken versions). And it wasn't deep fried chicken. The Chili Paneer was less unique, but still good - resembled sweet and sour sauce with a chili kick and some Indian type spices. But the paneer may have been the best paneer I've ever had because it was light and fluffy, not dense like I'm used to, with a golden brown exterior. Yummy! The service was very good. The only downside was that it wasn't licensed, but that's to be expected. They serve halal meat and they do take out (and perhaps delivery). Prices were comparable to other places and sometimes cheaper.

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                                                                                                          126 Elizabeth St, Toronto, ON M5G, CA

                                                                                                          Lin Garden
                                                                                                          1806 Pharmacy Ave, Toronto, ON M1T1H6, CA

                                                                                                          5 Spices
                                                                                                          1411 Gerrard St E, Toronto, ON M4L1Z5, CA

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                                                                                                            redcoconut Mar 9, 2011 06:39 PM

                                                                                                            Looks like a new Hakka place has opened up right beside Danforth Dragon, should be interesting to see how that pans out.

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                                                                                                            861 Danforth Ave, Toronto, ON M4J, CA

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                                                                                                              garfield Mar 10, 2011 05:21 PM

                                                                                                              I did post a review of it .I also found it better than the usual MSG dripping deep fried representations of this cuisine elsewhere in the city. Though I do like China Cottage too.

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                                                                                                              80 Ellesmere Rd, Toronto, ON M1R4C2, CA

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                                                                                                              nihir Apr 2, 2011 04:10 PM

                                                                                                              I haven't seen this added to anyone's list, but has anyone else tried China Palace in Woodbridge/Vaughan? It's a little out of the way in terms of Toronto, but the food is amazing.

                                                                                                              I love their hakka noodles and their chil tofu/green beens/okra.

                                                                                                              The service isn't always the fastest around, but generally very friendly people.

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                                                                                                              Hwy 7, Vaughan, ON , CA

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                                                                                                                ddog May 22, 2011 06:33 PM

                                                                                                                I found a new place on my way home from Kennedy station. It's called "Spicy Wok" on 286 Markham Rd (N of Eglinton). It's a tiny spot in a tiny, unassuming strip mall. But it's worth finding because the food is very tasty. Best chili chicken I've had in months.

                                                                                                                My other fave spots are Lucky (Scarb Golf Course and Lawrence) and Wok With Yu (Eglinton-Warden).

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                                                                                                                  njlondon Dec 29, 2011 02:13 PM

                                                                                                                  Hot Wok at Kennedy and Ellesmere Road (Southeast corner) is a small restaurant that has some of the best hot and sour soup I have tasted and I have been to almost all of the Hakka places in the Scarborough/Markham area.

                                                                                                                  Food is good as well. No atmosphere, maybe a dozen tables.
                                                                                                                  If my wife and I are going with other couples, I will take them to other, nicer places.
                                                                                                                  If it's me and a friend, Hot Wok it is.

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