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wookyluvr Dec 16, 2006 02:04 AM

Hi -- I'm a cooking newbie and in need of good basics... does this set look reasonable? Does Emerilware make good quality cookware? Should I look at something else (in the mid-price range... I don't want real cheap stuff and I don't want to pay an arm and a leg). Thanks for your advice!
http://www1.macys.com/catalog/product/index.ognc?ID=198506&CategoryID=25061&LinkType=EverGreen

Here's another set I'm looking at:
http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/produ...
How do I compare them?

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    dotMac Dec 19, 2006 02:06 AM

    I'd go Emerilware over that other set.

    But I'd also consider just getting some high-quality pieces one-by-one.

    Like maybe start with the 12" Gourmet Standard saute pan (rated just below the All-Clad by Cook's Illustrated).

    Add a stock pot.

    Add a dutch oven.

    And so forth.

    I've found I use my saute pan and stock pot most often. (though I'd rather use an enameled dutch oven---it's on my list.)

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    1. re: dotMac
      JK Grence the Cosmic Jester Dec 24, 2006 12:01 PM

      Stock pots and Dutch ovens serve almost the exact same purpose, but the Dutch oven is more versatile. Get a nice big Dutch oven, you'll be set for a lot of things. Skip the stock pot until you need to make something that won't fit in the Dutch oven.

    2. andreas Dec 19, 2006 02:38 AM

      It looks to me that the Emerilware set has only a bottom with a aluminum/copper core. Ideally you'll want that core to go up all the way into the sides of the dishes, making for even heat distribution.

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        amoncada Dec 19, 2006 07:28 PM

        I definitely recommend the Emerilware set for the price...you can't go wrong cause it's made by All-clad. There's definitely a difference in quality but worth it all the way.

        My Emerilware 4qt chefs pot only has the aluminum/copper core on the bottom. The sides are kind of thin so this can occasionally burn your food if your not careful.

        On the flipside, you may want to wait for those huge after the holidays sales. I'm sure the All Clad Set will be available for a deep discount.

        Also pick-up a couple of non-teflon (there could be negative longterm affects with teflon coated cookware) non-stick;
        SITRAM CYBERNOX FRY PANS...THERE PRETTY AMAZING. Made in France.
        The Swiss Diamond line of fry pans is excellent as well.

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          Buckethead Dec 19, 2006 07:43 PM

          That isn't necessarily ideal, depending on what and how you're cooking. In a saute pan, the bottom is usually the only part that touches the food. A conductive sandwich up the sides of a pan conducts heat not only to the interior of the pan, but also the exterior, where it does nothing but heat up your kitchen.

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            andreas Dec 24, 2006 11:53 AM

            I respectfully disagree. A saute pan is routinely used for braising - high heat to build up the flavor, deglaze, lower heat and finish over time - where even heat from all sides is exactly what you want. Stainless steel walls with no heat conductivity are a sign of cheap cookware.

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            Chemicalkinetics Nov 15, 2010 10:31 AM

            I believe Emerilware has both version: bottom disc and full clad. The fully cladded one is called Pro-Clad.

            http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FYpMvxyp5h4...

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            cwatts Dec 19, 2006 08:49 PM

            I have an emerilware set that my parents gave me as a gift and I really like it. I don't have much experience with super-high quality cookware but for your first set you really can't go wrong with the quality and price, like the previous poster mentioned.
            Of course, I do like the recomendation that you buy as you go. There will always be pieces in a set that you'll never use...

            1. C. Hamster Dec 19, 2006 10:06 PM

              I'm also a buy as you go recommender because there is usually a piece or two in a set that you'll never use.

              Emerilware is made by All Clad but is their entry-level cookware and is not "all clad."

              You might nose around at Cookware and More's website. They sell consmetically challenged All Clad and Emerilware at very nice discounts. Chances are you can buy better cooware for not that much more $$ there.

              1. SanseiDesigns Dec 21, 2006 03:28 AM

                I would buy a smaller set of All Clad rather than spending money on a naming licensed product. Like good cast iron, cookware like All Clad can last your lifetime and be given to the next generation to use, if properly cared for. I treat my cookware like an investment and pay a bit more for long lasting quality.

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                  will47 Dec 21, 2006 08:09 AM

                  Or check out the Sitram stuff - good quality and (relatively) cheap.

                  I'm personally not a fan of sets - sometimes you can save some money, but only if you really need everything that's in the set. I prefer to pick and choose as I go.

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                    amoncada Dec 21, 2006 04:18 PM

                    I agree with you about buying a small set of All Clad. After all, a few of the pots/pans in the larger sets are useless. Better off adding a couple Sitram Cybernox non-stick non-teflon fry pans. The stainless like surface is impermiable to metal cooking utensils.

                    Also pick up a couple of cast iron pans at target for $10 each. Why buy expensive cast iron fry pans when you can find them for peanuts at target.

                    The Mario Batali Enameled 6qt Stock Pot is available for $60 on Amazon.com.

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                      jackie57 Nov 15, 2010 09:46 AM

                      why buy expensive cast iron over the cheap made-in-china stuff like what Target sells???surely you jest. in the first place, old cast iron is not necessarily expensive, unless you get into the rare collectors pieces. you will pay a lot more for lots of stainless steel junk cookware. if you have not ever cooked in the old cast iron, i would recommend that you find someone who has an old skillet , hopefully from the 1930's or before, and try it. you will then understand the difference. have fun.

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                    sodden Dec 23, 2006 02:01 AM

                    I agree - don't buy a set. Buy individual pieces. Also, I would buy better quality. The name Emirilware costs something. Two imports to look at are Sitram and Mauviel. Both make good stainless. Sitram has a variety of different lines. I would get an 8" and 12" saute/fry pan and a couple different sizes of saute pans. You could also use an 8" and 12" non'stick.

                    The better the quality of stainless steel the better it will cook and clean up. You get what you pay for.

                    1. free sample addict aka Tracy L Dec 23, 2006 04:59 AM

                      Places like Bed, Bath and Beyond have weekly 20% off coupons which can be used to purchase open stock items such as all clad.

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                        JoanN Dec 25, 2006 06:39 PM

                        I've heard of people getting away with it, but the BB&B coupons specifically say, "Not valid for the purchase of . . . All-Clad . . . .

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                          Sam Harmon Dec 25, 2006 06:49 PM

                          It may depend on the region, but in Chicago they'll acceptn the coupons for anything in the store.

                          I think that the manufacturers of cetain "prestige" brands mandate that their items not be put on sale, but the BB&B stores just want to make the sale and ignore the coupon restrictions. I've purchased Wusthof Classic and All Clad at Chicago area BB&B's with 20% off coupons.

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                        Sam Harmon Dec 25, 2006 06:47 PM

                        Take a look at these sets from Sur La Table. They're heavy, fully-clad pieces as opposed to all stainless with an aluminum disk on the bottom, which IMO is far superior.

                        The price is only slightly more 8 pieces for $200 as opposed to 10 pieces for $200.

                        http://www.surlatable.com/common/prod...

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                          wookyluvr Jan 1, 2007 07:24 PM

                          If anyone is interested... I checked out all the sets at the stores and then stopped by Sam's Club to see what they had. Their set of fully clad pots and pans is really nice! I like the way they feel and it seems to be a good value. This is what I bought rather than Emerilware or the others:
                          http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/navi...

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