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Bottled Guinness

A blasphemy? Has anyone tried this? I can't imagine having one that isn't drawn seconds before I drink it? Maybe I just want the visual experience.

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  1. Maybe you were underage when nitro taps became ubiquitous. ;-)

    Not to mention that the foreign extra version (think Russian imperial stout) that's available outside the US really rocks.

    1. Just to clarify- the traditional bottled Guinness Extra Stout is a different animal than the draft beer. Within the past decade they have also introduced another bottled product which is the lower gravity 'draft' beer with a nitro widget, essentially the same as the can.

      I can't say I really see the point of the packaging if one is going to pour it into a glass anyway, which...well...c'mon...they don't expect us to drink their beer out of the bottle, do they??? (Judging by the latest commercials, apparently they do ;) )

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      1. re: TongoRad

        I must say I like the extra stout better than even Guiness draft. While most groceries have both types many bars only have guiness draught in the bottle. I also make sure I clarify

        1. re: quazi

          I found a great recipe in Choclatier magazine a few years ago for Guinness brownies that calls for the extra stout. I make them every year for St. Patrick's Day and bring them into the office.

          They're evil-good little squares.

           
          1. re: brattenheimer

            Would you mind sharing that recipe? I've been looking for a good Guinness brownies recipe...

              1. re: luv2bake

                This looks pretty similar. I'll dig out my recipe later on this evening and post it as well.

            1. re: quazi

              i completely agree that the EXTRA STOUT in a bottle which just so happens to be widely available in most bodegas around NYC, is far superior to even tap guinness. well, its a different animal entirely, i guess i should say. apples and oranges. i love draught guinness of course. started me on beer appreciation. BUT, the extra something in the extra stout is just sooo good. now, i only wish they would do the widget bottle-thing with the extra stout brew. this way i could get my desired nitrogen-bubbled head WITH the exquisite flavor of the extra stout.

          2. When you raise that glass of bottled Guinness to make a toast be sure to include the land of the maple leaf, where it was made.

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            1. re: BluPlateSpec

              That would be true for extra stout, but I believe all the draught Guinness (keg, bottle and can) in the US market comes out of Ireland.

              1. re: Jim Dorsch

                Correct. Kegs, cans & widget bottles for North America are all brewed in Ireland (according to the official company line, at least), while the bottled Extra Stout is brewed over here. Specifically, the Extra Stout sold in the US is brewed in Canada by Moosehead, while the stuff sold in Canada is brewed by Labatt.

                Anyway, both versions pale in comparison to the Extra Stout and Foreign Extra Stout versions available in other countries. The Caribbean FES version is especially nice - 7.5%, thick brown-black, big and roasty with a nice sourness in the finish - mmmmm!

                1. re: gregclow

                  damn!!! so the caribbeaners have an even better extra stout??? an extra-extra stout as it were....have to go over to orbitz...

                  1. re: gregclow

                    YES THEY DO! And it makes me miss those Irish gates to the factory even more... I was at the Dublin Guinness factory for last St. Pat's and got to tour the facility and each level had tastings for each of the different beers brewed by Guinness (along with some tasty lil' oysters - hmmm I WONDER what they were trying to hint at with getting drunk and easting oysters?!). But every single specialty stouts that they brew for the foreign countries were sooooooo yummy and NONE of them are sold overseas. In fact, it also became obvious to us during the tour (and during other tastings of the draught available throughout the UK) that the draught, both cans and widgets, that make it to the US are not all made in Ireland. In fact, very few products from the actual breweries in Ireland make it to the US.... many fewer than North American bars and restaurants would like you to believe. The key to knowing - ALWAYS check the label on your can/ bottle. I think you'll find most of them state the product as being bottled in Canada. Sometimes, the better Irish pubs here get the real stuff in kegs, but I think they are only a select few... I could be wrong. Yet, I'm betting I'm right because every Guinness I've had here somehow tastes like feet....!

                    1. re: raharris

                      "... every single specialty stouts that they brew for the foreign countries ... and NONE of them are sold overseas."

                      Huh? <g>

                      " In fact, it also became obvious to us during the tour (and during other tastings of the draught available throughout the UK) that the draught, both cans and widgets, that make it to the US are not all made in Ireland. >snip< The key to knowing - ALWAYS check the label on your can/ bottle. I think you'll find most of them state the product as being bottled in Canada."

                      Every can, bottle and keg of Guinness Draught that I've ever seen in the US is clearly labeled as being from Ireland, and, currently, every bottle of
                      Guinness Extra Stout in the US that I see is currently labeled as being
                      brewed in New Brunswick, Canada (Moosehead). (Reportedly, the Labatt brewed version is still available in Canada. The US used to get that version, when the Irish brewed GES disappeared sometime in the past decade or so.)

                      Are you basing your claim, which contradicts every other fact based report,
                      including many posts in this thread, merely on what the beer *tasted* like in the British Isles? Were you told or did you see evidence of Canadian made Guinness Draught? (Most beer writers note that Guinness Draught in kegs for the US market *is* flash pasteurized, unlike those in Ireland. The bottles and cans also note "pasteurized").

                      Have anyone EVER seen a can, bottle or keg of Guinness Draught (NOT GES) sold in the US that said "Brewed in Canada" on it?

                      Is it really possible, given the three tier system in the US, that Diageo-Guinness USA (the subsidiary that imports the brand into the US) secretly sends two different versions, Irish and Canadian, of the same beer to distributors, who then sell one version to "a select few" establishments, and the inferior versions to everyone else?

                      1. re: JessKidden

                        JessKidden=beer genius...would you do a vulcan mind meld with me sometime so I can have your knowledge?

                        Just curious. Always look forward to your posts about the beer business.

                2. re: BluPlateSpec

                  Hi, I can tell you that ALL bottled Guinness Extra Stout is brewed in Dublin, Ireland.
                  I drink 20 - 30 1/2 litre bottles every week and it really is good for me!
                  Enjoy.

                  Question - Where in Melbourne, Fla can bottled Guinness Extra Stout be purchased?

                  Thanks - Chris.

                  1. re: sunofabeach41249

                    "Hi, I can tell you that ALL bottled Guinness Extra Stout is brewed in Dublin, Ireland."

                    So, how do you explain these labels that are affixed to bottles of Guinness Extra Stout sold in the USA?

                    http://jesskidden.googlepages.com/Gui...

                3. I'm a big fan of the extra stout, a huge fan.

                  1. The problem w/ most non-Irish bars here in the U.S. is that it's difficult to get a properly-calibrated Guinness from draft. Which is why it's almost better to get it from the can or the bottle (w/ nitro thingy) to get a proper pour.

                    In Ireland, pubs have the luxury/option to be a Licensed Seller - which basically means that someone working for St. James' Gate comes to make sure your draft is pouring properly.

                    I love Guinness. Spent about four hours at their museum/factory last March.

                     
                     
                     
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                    1. re: brattenheimer

                      I've been to a number of supposed Irish bars that sold dreadful nitro-tap Guinness from funky, uncleaned lines. Just because a bar has an Irish name, doesn't mean the owners give a rats ass about the quality of what they're pouring.

                      1. re: braineater

                        Good point and it's not as complicated as it's often made out . . . the simple rule of thumb for pouring Guinness is that the shorter the line from the keg to the tap, the better chance of a smooth and even pour for the pint.

                        Ideally, the kegs are situated right under the taps. Many bars in the US (and maybe elsewhere too, I don't know) have their taps on the bar and the kegs under or behind the back bar . . . just that length of line, 15 feet or so from the tap to the keg, can make trouble for Guinness. Because of its "weight", it doesn't do well sitting in the line, waiting for the next pint to be drawn . . . when it sits in the line, it "settles", then when the tap is drawn again, it stirs, then it stops again, etc etc

                      2. re: brattenheimer

                        ME TOO! One of my guy friends and I actually went around reading (and of course nabbing as much of the free high gravity exports as possible) all the factoids... meanwhile our friends went almost immediately up to the fourth flour! We all made sure to take our turn to pour our "perfect pints." I still have my "certificate" from there! YUMMY memories.