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  <id>349824</id>
  <title>Bagel Recommendations</title>
  <published_at>Sat Dec 09 23:56:25 -0800 2006</published_at>
  <post_count>23</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>19</id>
    <name>Outer Boroughs</name>
  </board>
  <posts>
    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>2085575</id>
        <content>Anyone out there able to recommend a great bagel/bialy place ideally in brooklyn?
in carrol gardens, park slope, boerum hill etc... are would be great, but am willing to travel.</content>
        <published_at>Sat Dec 09 23:56:25 -0800 2006</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>16785</id>
          <name>chubbie</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2085587</id>
      <content>i am definitely not a bagel "expert", but i have always been happy with bergen bagels.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Dec 10 00:03:49 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>2085575</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11465</id>
        <name>Get In My Belly</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2085649</id>
      <content>My favorites in Park Slope are Bagel Hole on 7th Ave 'tween 12th and 13th and Bagel World on 5th Ave at 5th Street.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Dec 10 00:28:48 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>2085575</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>24539</id>
        <name>livetotravel</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2085657</id>
      <content>second that on bagel world...best bagels in the slope!</content>
      <published_at>Sun Dec 10 00:36:04 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>2085649</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>58828</id>
        <name>darkerimage</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2085892</id>
      <content>I think Montague bagels are the best, they are in Brooklyn Heights. They are chewy, freshly baked and not too salty or sweet.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Dec 10 03:09:49 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>2085575</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16610</id>
        <name>dimples</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2085970</id>
      <content>i'll "third" bagel hole for a dense, chewy, not-enormous, classic brooklyn bagel. the (windsor) terrace bagel would be my second favorite in brownstone bk. i don't dislike bergen, but i often find the bagels a little too fluffy and too sweet for my tastes. 

i'd like to hear more about bagel world on fifth. what are those bad boys like?</content>
      <published_at>Sun Dec 10 04:04:11 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>2085575</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>29569</id>
        <name>allydee</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2086177</id>
      <content>i ate at bagel world a while ago and thought it was very good. the people who live right around there are lucky to have it.

thanks for all the comments!</content>
      <published_at>Sun Dec 10 06:52:11 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>2085970</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16785</id>
        <name>chubbie</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2086358</id>
      <content>Havent been to the slope but Bagel World on Court in Cobble Hill is great.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Dec 10 13:47:42 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>2085575</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>58211</id>
        <name>Ljubitca</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2086382</id>
      <content>They may be the best in the area but I'd disagree on being great. They just aren't "real" bagels. They are too big, too soft, too sweet and too undercooked. 

That being said, I buy them 2-3 times a week. 

Its add that Brooklyn, an area with the largest Jewish population in America can't land a decent bagel shop.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Dec 10 14:20:00 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>2086358</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>14693</id>
        <name>Larry Brooks</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2087931</id>
      <content>&gt;&gt;&gt;Brooklyn, an area with the largest Jewish population in America can't land a decent bagel shop&lt;&lt;&lt;
 
False.  Same subject, different day...I don't know how many more times I need to impress upon fellow 'Hounds the extreme goodness and authenticity of the BAGEL SPOT in Borough Park.

No funky-berry flavors, just a beautifully executed little gem of a bagel...and as Kosher as they come...All flavors are classic and loaded with the coatings, unlike "Brownstone Brooklyn" pretenders.

It's on 14th Avenue near 43rd Street...the closest subway is the "F" to Church Avenue...walk down Church 'til it intersects 14th around 36th Street.  AND, for a bread BONUS, don't forget to stop over at RIO Gas and fill up on an Ostrovitsky Challah.

Zei-Gezindt.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Dec 11 03:24:57 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>2086382</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11109</id>
        <name>Mike R.</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>2103521</id>
      <content>STRONG second for Bagel Spot. Look, you want to be a chowhound, in the true spirit of the credo as laid out in the old pre-CNET homepage? Meaning: a person who will put in a little extra effort to have a truly special eating experience (?). Get out to Borough Park and have a real, boiled, crusty and chewy, not-just-round-bread b.a.g.e.l. made by actual Jews at Bagel Spot. 

And no, I supposed you don't have to be Jewish to make a proper bagel any more than you have to be Chinese to make a proper soup dumpling - necessarily. But insofar as bagels are a unique food item linked to a particular culture's culinary heritage, it can't hurt to have a bagel made by folks who are part of that culture. Or - to take another tack - Bagel Spot bagels are the best, most bagel-y bagels I've had in NY, and possibly it's not a coincidence that they're made by men with curly beards.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Dec 15 20:40:56 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>2087931</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>14040</id>
        <name>GDSwamp</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>2104042</id>
      <content>Amen, Shabbat Shalom &amp; Happy Hanukkah...my sentiments excatly...a "Spot"-on bagel if ever there was.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Dec 15 23:16:53 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>2103521</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11109</id>
        <name>Mike R.</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2086414</id>
      <content>For me, the only correct amount of sugar in a bagel is ZERO.  This eliminates almost all places, which make elephantine, cake-like, bagel-shaped-objects with no crust and no interior texture.

After much hunting, I've settled on Bagel Hole on 7th Avenue and Original Bagel Hole on Coney Island Avenue near Avenue K.  OBH also great braided rolls with the same dough and cooking method.  

Stay away from their bialys though.  Nobody come close to Kossar's.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Dec 10 14:51:23 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>2085575</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10539</id>
        <name>KRS</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2086987</id>
      <content>I haven't tried Bagel World, but I get Bagel Hole bagels all the time, usually around the corner from me at D'Vine Taste (at no markup), but sometimes directly from the shop.  I think they're the closest thing to the NY bagels of my youth.

http://petercherches.blogspot.com</content>
      <published_at>Sun Dec 10 19:52:43 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>2085575</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10736</id>
        <name>Peter Cherches</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2087121</id>
      <content>Bag off Brooklyn, hop on the train and try Murrays on 13th and sixth ave.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Dec 10 21:08:26 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>2085575</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>54968</id>
        <name>chalkman</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2087203</id>
      <content>Cafe Nova on Court and Warren, and its sister Verandah Cafe on Clinton next to Cobble Hill Park, carry H&amp;H Bagels.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Dec 10 21:56:33 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>2085575</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>18216</id>
        <name>bklynite</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2087296</id>
      <content>Murrays and H&amp;H are the only ones I like(both are in Manhattan).</content>
      <published_at>Sun Dec 10 22:40:54 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>2085575</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>55914</id>
        <name>marlie202</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2088045</id>
      <content>Ohh Brooklyn Bread does a tasty bagel as well I can't compare it to anything traditional but it's just so good.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Dec 11 04:28:44 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>2085575</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>58211</id>
        <name>Ljubitca</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2088810</id>
      <content>Brooklyn Bread are tasty!  ... but more like a round bread with a hole in the middle. They are not boiled but just baked. It may sound like heresy to pureists but I love their bagel with a core of dark chocolate, yum!

For traditional bagels I love Murrays!</content>
      <published_at>Mon Dec 11 15:39:12 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>2088045</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>54968</id>
        <name>chalkman</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2088850</id>
      <content>a tiny hole in the wall called bagel bazaar on 86th street near bay parkway in bensonhurst has great bagels.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Dec 11 15:55:01 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>2085575</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12568</id>
        <name>ericalloyd</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2088861</id>
      <content>Bagel Factory on 5th ave and 17th st.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Dec 11 16:00:16 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>2085575</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16801</id>
        <name>subinai</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2089389</id>
      <content>As a Manhattan transplant, I too am still stuck on Murray's (which also sells the beloved Kossar's bialys), but I am a convert to F-LINE BAGELS on Smith and 9th Streets. Their name may be controversial (damn you, MTA!), but their bagels are admirably crusty - way better than doughy Bagel World's.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Dec 11 18:33:37 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>2085575</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>59123</id>
        <name>bagelnyc</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2103104</id>
      <content>F-Line are indeed great, just about the only real bagels in Carroll Gardens. MTA is so lame to bust the chops of a small business like this ... F****  them!</content>
      <published_at>Fri Dec 15 18:43:19 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>2089389</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>54968</id>
        <name>chalkman</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2100769</id>
      <content>Bagels by the park, Smith and President, are pretty good</content>
      <published_at>Thu Dec 14 22:26:51 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>2085575</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>59816</id>
        <name>kcc2004</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
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