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My favorite to date is Jack's Oyster House. What else is good in that upstate hood/s???

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  1. Chez Sophie in Saratoga
    Cafe Capriccio in Albany
    Lombardo's Albany

    Do a search on Albany - there have been a lot of recent posts

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    1. re: swarttav

      Good Places to eat cheap in Schenectady (since I don't know Albany)

      1. Kabul Night -Great afghan restaurant the food is full of subtle and complex flavors
      2. Bangkok Bistro - I live for their Pad Thai
      3. Chez Daisy - The only crepe place south of Montreal, very good
      4. King of Pizza - Hands down the best pizza in the capital region.

      Places to shop (all over):
      1. Honest weight Co-cop
      2. Eats
      3. Ocean State Job lots.

      1. re: YAYME

        Agree on Honest Weight -- great produce, bulk everything (nuts, dried fruit, grains), and the cheese/specialty dept is over the top!

        Is King of Pizza on Eastern Ave near Brandywine?
        BTW, you left out Gershon's Deli. Mmm that brisket and chopped liver; the eggplant special.

        Amazingly Ocean state job lot carries the full range of Bob's Red Mill products, including my favorite muesli!

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        Gershon's Deli & Caterers
        1600 Union St, Schenectady, NY 12309

        1. re: NYchowcook

          no , King of Pizza is on Jay.

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          Pizza King
          124 Jay St, Schenectady, NY 12302

        2. re: YAYME

          Where is this King of Pizza? I recently settled for my old standby High Bridge, but could use a change. Marino's is also one of my favorites there.

        3. Another vote for Lombardo's. Go for a "power lunch" where you're bound to see the political movers and shakers in Albany.

          At Lombardo's you can get a tasty meal at a reasonable price with that same old Albany ambience as Jack's. The portions at Jack's are ridiculously small and I'm not sure the food is anything special. It's more a place to "be seen" IMHO.

          And when you want a good down-to-earth meal without any hype, just roll over to the Blue Ribbon Diner in Schenectady. You'll never go wrong. Money back guarantee.;)

          1. I would have to say Saso's Japanese Noodle House in Albany.

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              1. re: YoungHood

                http://www.sasos.com
                Their website should have everything but prices (it's a little more pricey for Albany, but good for NYC prices - about $23 an entree and $8 a roll). I don't think they serve lunch any more, but they have the very best quality in the area.

                1. re: YoungHood

                  We dined at Saso's earlier this evening for the first time. Without a doubt, the best sushi in the albany area. We tried 4 rolls (indulgence, tempura, albany, & red devil), plus other assorted sushi. My son and I liked the albany best, followed by the red devil (likely too spicy for the typical american). I'm a pacific islander and my family once owned 2 japanese restaurants (not in town). The agedashi tofu appetizer was also very good. There are many more rolls to try from the menu, we'll definitely be back. It is a little pricey as noted earlier ($130 for 3, including tip, only 1 of us had an alcoholic beverage). The neighborhood looks rough, but there is off-street parking.

                  1. re: YoungHood

                    Here's the Places link:

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                    Saso's Japanese Noodle House - CLOSED
                    218 Central Ave Ste 1, Albany, NY 12206

                  2. re: yumcha

                    Saso's is okay. I posted on my survey of sushi joints in the area.

                    to date I find Yoshi Sushi on Rt 9 in Latham/Loudonville (just south of Latham circle on west side of Rt 9) to be the best sushi house.
                    Sushi Tei, 1800 Western Ave. (in back of L shaped shopping strip) has $1 sushi through December, and the quality is good and makes for a very economical sushi splurge.

                  3. Jack's and Chez Sophie have slipped - maybe fallen and IMHO Lombardo's never really was and will never be on my list at all ( went once a number of years ago and will never ever return. Cafe Capriccio is outstanding. Little noted but very good in way downtown Albany is Hudson Harbor a converted old office for the river steamboats/ferries when there were such things. Outside it needs much dressing up but inside and on the table it shines. And in Troy a new spot in the downtown near the Troy City Music Hall (Tosca Grille). It is superb, featuring a well thought out menu, a good and reasonable wine list. The dining room is a bit on the bright side but not enough to put you off and the tables are far enough apart to allow private conversation - a feature seldom seen anymore. It is brand new and will only improve as the staff and kitchen fine tune their operation. My only fear is that it is in Troy and that is one depressed city. The symphony orchestra nights are sure to provide customers and I only hope it gains attention - I have seen too many good dining spots in Troy dim and die.

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                    1. re: feelinpeckish

                      Have you been to River Street Café lately? We lost interest when the wonderful Peter Calabrese left, but keep talking about trying it again. That’s somehow managed to make it in Troy forever, serving upscale cuisine.

                      In Troy we have also had good luck w/ Ali Baba and Shalimar for cheap, tasty munchies. There’s another good Turkish place on River Street/Antiques Row – it doesn’t look like much but it has great food. Can’t remember the name. We were excited to try Jose Malone’s, as we have some nice memories of El Loco (the owner was co-owner and a driving force there until his nasty divorce) but the food was just awful. We were there fairly early on, so I’d be willing to try again, but we also had a bad server experience, so I am in no rush.

                      I’ve also heard good things about Anselmo’s – haven’t made it there yet.

                      1. re: feelinpeckish

                        Ditto on the fabulous Lebanese place on River St./Antique's Row. It's called Al-Baraki and the food is out of this world. 184 River St. (518) 270-9404. The ambiance is nothing to write home about but who cares? Haven't had Tabouleh like that since I was in Israel. Everything's good, including their fragrant and muddy Lebanese coffee and their inimitable garlic paste, which thankfully, they sell in plastic take-home containers.

                        1. re: tleaf

                          I agree... one of the best meals I've ever had... the owner was so friendly.
                          The more we ate, the more he brought out... and we ended up going home with gifts of pitas and garlic paste...

                          I felt bad because we were headed to the Music Hall for a concert and I think we all smelled like garlic farmers. But it was worth it.

                        2. re: feelinpeckish

                          I had dinner at Cafe Capriccio in downtown Albany for the first time earlier this year. The atmosphere is warm and cozy, perfect for a cold winter night's dinner. Respectfully disagree with Capitalnosher's opinion that it is "fancy pants and precious," maybe when the capital folks are dining there. I felt Jack's had a much more formal feel than Cafe Capriccio. The room we were in wasn't even full and our booth was comfortable. It was lovely and everything was delicious. Unfortunately all I remember now is that we did not have their "signature dish."

                          Last night we had dinner at Tosca in Troy. We did not have a reservation and were seated almost immediately. There were several large groups and the noise level was okay. The atmosphere is like a music hall, the high ceiling and mural, musical instruments on the wall don't make for an intimate or romantic room. We thought there was something wrong with the lighting because the room would get dimmer (nice) and then get a bit brighter. There is a small bar in the back of the restaurant. I was amazed at all the space between tables, something that is rare in NYC. The service and food was very good. For appetizers we had the seared Hudson Valley foie gras with quince, apples and brioche. Another app was a salad with thinly sliced pear, bleu cheese and walnuts. Traditional but lovely. For entrees we had a special, the sea bass in a broth with vegetables and mashed potatoes. We also had the seared scallops with a Greek salad timbale (cooked spinach, tomato and feta on top). The fish was cooked perfectly. My descriptions do not do the meal justice and Tosca uses a lot of local greenmarket and organic ingredients which is much appreciated. NYC prices here and the quality and service to go along.

                          There are so few good restaurants Upstate it is nice to have discovered Tosca and Cafe Capriccio, in addition to Glen Sanders Mansion in Schenectady.

                            1. re: netmover

                              Not yet, netmover. What do you suggest there?

                              edit: Glen Sanders is in Scotia, NOT Schenectady.

                            2. re: financialdistrictresident

                              Had an early dinner at Cafe Capriccio on Friday night. Liked it even better than the first time. We had warm olives with spicy red peppers and bread fresh from the oven. For apps insalata caprese (house made mozzarella, tomatoes, arugula) and eggplant with 4 cheeses. Porcini and other forest mushrooms tossed with tagliatelle and the sea bass special for our entrees.

                              1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                This is good news as I believe their head chef of a number of years recently left (don't remember where she went) as was a little concerned about how things would be.

                                1. re: markabauman

                                  markabauman - have you been to Jack's since the new chef took over?

                                  1. re: markabauman

                                    She went to start the dinner service at Cafe Madison, which is well worth a visit; a really pleasant, moderately-priced bistro.

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                                    Cafe Madison
                                    1108 Madison Ave # 1, Albany, NY

                                2. re: financialdistrictresident

                                  Had another delicious dinner at Cafe Capriccio Friday night. I think it was our best meal there. Their bread is homemade and very fresh (not Pereca's or artisanal quality). For apps we had salad caprese (tomatoes from their garden in back), beans and greens (I always forget this has bacon). For entrees we had the duck tagliatelle and seafood entree (don't remember the exact name on the menu). Service as usual was excellent.

                                  1. re: feelinpeckish

                                    A lot of the restaurants you might be thinking of actually closed due to bad management instead of poor attendance. There was a period about 9 years ago, shortly after I first moved there when one after another I think about 6 great places closed due to divorces, internal theft, and owners who lost interest. I would like to contest your point that it's a depressed city. It might be one of the most exciting places to be right now in the capital region.

                                    I surprised to read the Ali Baba and Shalimar were so bad. It's kind of run of the mill food, not great, but I would never call it bad.

                                    José Malones, while peculiar in theory, turned out to be reasonable. It may also be the most committed to vegan food in the area.

                                    Last time I went to Jack's I was very satisfied with their food and incredible service.

                                    My parents came back with a similar opinion of Chez Sophie about 8 months ago.

                                  2. Is John Riccitello's still open (in Schenectady near Union College ??

                                    1. What was the name of the restaurant? We leave near Union College, but that name doesn’t ring a bell.

                                      I have yet to have a bad meal at Café Capriccio, but I have been pretty disappointed the few times I’ve been to Jack’s. I think that traditional sort of food just might not be our thing. We thought the service at Chez Sophie was slightly lacking the first time we tried them at their new location but we have been back since and were extremely pleased with both food and service. We have been to Cella Bistro in Niskayuna a number of times for both small plates in the lounge and full dinners and haven’t been disappointed yet (though their take on aioli is not mine.) We even took my folks – my dad is a world-traveler and a long-time food enthusiast – and they were very pleased. I hear good things about the revamped Justin’s in Albany and also the new Vin Santo Wine Bar in Latham. I think Cornell’s does a fine job w/ pretty traditional Italian in a slightly more upscale place, but I wouldn’t drive any great distance for it. (Well, maybe for their cavatelli.) We’ve had some very nice experiences at the Wine Bar in Saratoga. The Stockade Inn in Schenectady doesn’t seem terribly well known in the area but the food and atmosphere are quite nice – we often sit in the lounge for their live jazz on Thursday or Friday. I find that an app is more than enough to fill me up, there.

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                                      1. re: meg944

                                        Is the Stockade Inn the old Van Dyke?

                                        1. re: swarttav

                                          No, it's in the old Mohawk Club. http://www.stockadeinn.com/

                                          The Van Dyck is still here, still brewing and now serving barbecue. We stop in now and then, since we live nearby, but always wind up swearing off it again. The food is generally pretty good, but the service is consistently sub-par. They do still have some good shows.

                                          1. re: meg944

                                            I lived in Schenectady when the Van Dyck was in its' heyday. I was also there when it went downhill (before pub reincarnation) and after it became a brew pub. So sad. Does the nearby Grogg Shoppe (spelling?) still have good cheesecake? I haven't been to The Stockade in years. I still remember that roast beef sandwich place on the corner of Erie and State (almost makes me want to become a meat eater again!). Maurices? Is it gone?

                                            1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                              I know the Grog Shoppe still makes all its own desserts (even ice cream!) but the times I've been in there, I've been too full to sample any. And I think you may possibly be talking about Morrette's. They are still known for their steak sandwiches - I have to admit that Jack and I weren't wowed, but we got take-out, and the time in a bag may have affected the food adversely.

                                        2. re: meg944

                                          John Riccitello's was the name of the restaurant. It was on one of the side streets (I can't remember the name, around Van Vranken / Avenue A. More than likely, it is gone (it was on the first floor of a two family house). Where in Niskayuna is Cella Bistro ? What is their specialties / your favorites ??

                                          Thanks

                                          1. re: TonyO

                                            Hey, I found Riccitello's on-line, called the #, and apparently they are still open Wed - Sun. I have never heard anyone mention the place, but of course, there are a zillion little Italian places here and we've only been here for about a year. So, you had good experiences there? Maybe we'll give it a shot, espcially as it's open on Sunday. For inexpensive family Italian I think most people here go to Ferrari's or Luigi's - a lot of people swear by Appian Way but we had a less than stellar experience when we went and haven't given them another try yet.

                                            1. re: meg944

                                              meg944, is Luigi's still open? I drove by today. Googled their phone number and when I called it got a wrong number. I also read the owner died.

                                              1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                Yes, I believe they are closed - that was a sad story. The owner was stabbed to death by her grandson.

                                          2. re: meg944

                                            If you like Italian pastries and cookies, you have to check out Villa Italia Bakery http://www.villaitaliabakery.com/
                                            Justin's used to be better when Chris used to chef there. He's now at Vin Santo which we've yet to try. (After the crush
                                            )I have second the poor review of Appian Way. Since it changed hands, it's just not the same quality. Thanks for tips on the retail places. Also, Al-Baraki on River St in Troy serves up some good Lebanese fare at very fair prices. Owners are very friendly. Tosca is finally open. Will have to check that out too.

                                            1. re: Marco

                                              I actually entioned Villa Italia in this very thread - great place!

                                              I know Appian Way had changed hands but from what I understood the original sister/owner/chefs had come back. Maybe they left again? Anyway, other people seem to quite like it but we have lots of new places to try before we'd go back.

                                              Justin's had really gone downill over the last few years but recently (a year ago?) they got a new owner and I have eard great things about it since, just haven't made it back yet. I think Al-Baraki may be the place on River St. I was trying to remember in my comment earlier - on the left-hand side of the street? They have an absolutely incredible yogurt sauce. I am waiting to hear about Tosca. Definitely want to make it in to Vin Santo soon - maybe after the holidays. Right now we have so many social events to attend, when we have a night alone we just want to veg!

                                              1. re: meg944

                                                I'd forgotten your mention of Villa Italia. It's difficult to recall who's mentioned what.
                                                There's another Middle Eastern place on River St near Al-Baraki, but I know nothing about it. It's on the right. Justin's is still good, but I think Chris was a better chef. The new owner has lots of business opp's going so...
                                                We stay away from most places until after the new year.

                                                1. re: Marco

                                                  Oh, no offense was taken – this thread has been all over the place!

                                                  I am not sure if anyone has mentioned McGuire’s, 677 Prime, or Yono’s. I am not a big beef person so I haven’t been to 677, haven’t been to the latest incarnation of Yono’s yet, and went to Andrew Plummer’s latest only once, but I have heard only good things about all of them, if you are willing to pay the price.

                                                  1. re: meg944

                                                    677 is overpriced and not worth the $$$

                                                  2. re: Marco

                                                    p.s. The other Middle Eastern place on the right-hand side of River St. – we have been in there for a quick bite – it definitely looks nicer, and what we had was quite good, but I would say not as delicious as Al-Baraki.

                                                    I’m with you on skipping the holiday jam at restaurants, though the week between Christmas and NYE is generally pretty light. We like to plan our big blow-out NYE-style dinner for a week-day during this week.

                                                    1. re: Marco

                                                      Avoid Angelo's 677 Prime. Very expen$ive; I don't mind the cost ($200 for lunch with 2 other people), but the service was pathetic (the waitresses were all over the Albany Conquest coaching staff and ignored us) and food average.

                                                      Yono Purnomo's restaurant, moved downtown in the Hampton Inn, still offers a truly unique dining experience by any standard. Yono has been on the Today show and has won more awards than most of the chefs in the capital district area combined. Jack's is still very good and the place to be 'seen', although price has crept up and the portions probably a bit small for the price. I had the seafood trio last week, it was 2 really small shrimp, and 2 slivers of fish, for $29 (although it includes salad and rolls). If going to Yono's, go for the ristaffel. Cafe Capriccio is hit or miss, and probably lives on past (ealy 90's reputation.

                                                  3. re: Marco

                                                    Another for Villa Italia. Had their pastries this week. I think they pre-fill their cannoli, the shells were not crisp. It's really nice that their new location has seating and is near Proctor's and the new movie theater in downtown Schenectady.

                                                2. Cella Bistro is on Rosa Road, on the way to GE Research or KAPL. It doesn't look like much from the outside - we just happened in there one evening and were very pleasantly surprised. I have liked everyting I've had there so far (with the exception of anything advertised as served w/ aioli, as I mentioned - for some reason their version tastes an awful lot like tartar sauce to me. Ick!)The rack of lamb has been a particular favorite for us, but we tend to order one of the nightly specials. The portions here are also rather large - not bad, as we enjoy leftovers, but it as kept us from trying as much as I would like. I definitely can't do an app along w/ an entree, and we have never had the appetite for dessert. They also have a lounge menu w/ small plates for, as I recall, $3-6.

                                                  http://www.cellabistro.com/

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                                                  1. re: meg944

                                                    We went to Cella Bistro Friday night and enjoyed it very much. meg944, your suggestion on this Board regarding the duck was a good one, thanks. I'll post a review of our experience.

                                                  2. Riccitello's is a true through back to another age. It always reminded me of going to someone's house for dinner. ( I lived on Avenue A when I was in kindergarten). The food was always decent, straight forward red sauce at reasonable prices. To me , it's like an endangered species in a world full of Chili's and Pizza Huts. I would love to hear a follow up if you go there. It's been many many years since I've eaten there so I can't help with an opinion but what's the worst that could happen ? I think it is amazing that they are still there ! I always enjoyed Marino's Pizza and try to stop when visiting the area. Ferrari's was always good as is Petta's (in a pretty dicey neighborhood but I never had any problems). Make sure to stop at Cappiello's (On Broadway near GE) for great bread, sausage, and cheeses. The homeade pizza was always a treat as well. Nothing like it in Vermont !

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                                                    1. re: TonyO

                                                      Oh, we love Capiello’s and buy from them a lot, also Garofalo’s Pork Store and Civitello’s for dessert stuff. (We also love the new Villa Italia bakery, though that is in a different category, very upscale.) We’re not aficionados of Perreca’s Bread but we seem to be the only ones. It’s great having all of these places within walking distance. I grew up in an area w/ a large Eastern European and Italian population, so going into a place about the size of our living room, where they have pictures of everybody’s grandkids on the walls and they call me “hon” is a very comforting experience for me.

                                                      We actually know some of the Pettas but haven’t tried the restaurant yet – there’s so much within walking distance that I think we sometimes get lazy.

                                                      I’ll definitely try to post about Riccitello’s. Our schedule looks pretty jammed at the moment but if we get a free Sunday afternoon that sounds perfect.

                                                      1. re: meg944

                                                        Does Capiello's have a retail store that people can shop in? Where is it located? Also I tried to find Garofalo's Pork store on the web and in whitepages but I could not find anything about it. Where is it located? thanks!

                                                        1. re: VPF

                                                          I don't know about Garofalo's but Cappiello's retail store is on Broadway in Schecetady reight near the entrance to the interstate (I-?90).

                                                          1. re: VPF

                                                            Yes, if you take the Broadway exit off 890, Capiello’s is just a little way down on the left (vice versa if driving down Broadway from downtown.) If you are driving down Union st, Garofalo’s is on the last street on the right before the train tracks. (I don’t know the name, but it is the street after Jay on the right, I believe.) It is about half a block down, on the right. You can’t drive the other way, but if you are at Cornell’s parking lot, where a street that is not Jay runs along the side, you could follow that street around, behind Perrecca’s, to the left, and wind up at Garofalo’s. It’s not an Internet presence sort of place, but their meat is quite good (they make their own sausages and the like as well) and they have some tasty Amish butter, plus a small collection of premade Italian specialties

                                                        2. re: TonyO

                                                          hi tonyo, I was born & raised in goose hill ( corner of lenox & raymond st.). went to st.anthony school. great chidhood memories. been in orlando,fla. for 10 yrs. do you remember arrow grill on van vranken , best steak &sausage sand. ever.they were next to honeyland pharmacy. thank you.

                                                          1. re: 1gabriel

                                                            Hey gabriels1......Arrow Grill...Many years ago that was ! I lived not far from Honeyland (Avenue A.) and went to Franklin Elementary prior to moving to Colonie. Can remember walking around those streets as a 6 year old by myself....doubt that would happen today ! I do remember a place called Cozy Corner that had an old man working at the counter that had really long finger nails......I must have really liked the pizza to deal with the trauma of seeing those nails !

                                                        3. Since we are getting into the realm of sepcialty stores also, in Albany there is Rolf's Pork store which has many german specialties - that's where I buy pinkelwurst - hard to find in many places. Cappiello's is worth the drive from any place in the Capital District. There also is a great chinese grocery on Colvin Ave in Albany, although the name escapes me. It is right near Bob and Ron's Fish Fry so a trip there can serve double chowhound duty. And my son says I need to mention Bomber's on Lark Street for their burrito's.

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                                                          1. re: swarttav

                                                            The grocery store is called the Asian Food Market. Also, they don't take credit cards for any amount <$10, which is something I always forget. :)

                                                          2. And don’t forget Honest Weight Food Co-op. Not only do they have a great selection of crunchy food, they have the best cheese selection I have seen outside of France/Montreal.

                                                            I also have to pimp New World Home Cooking, one of our very favorite places. Though it is in Saugerties, it’s just off 87 and the trip from Albany is about the same as going to Saratoga. Ric Orlando does an amazing job – we especially enjoy his wine dinners and summer “cookout” special events. He said something to me about a year ago about coming back to Albany (he used to be the head chef at Justin’s and really developed its early menu) but I haven’t heard anything from him recently and haven’t pestered him.

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                                                            1. re: meg944

                                                              Yes! New World Home Cooking is great. All dishes are really fresh, healthy and they let you adjust the spice on everything so you can really spice yummy dishes. Not a big menu but plenty of choices for the vegetarian. Also, the bar is awesome. A great place to just stop off for a cocktail & some bar food. The Bangkok Cosmo is amazingly delicious! Try it if you are in the area. The couple that run it could NOT be nicer.

                                                            2. There used to be an excellent retaurant on McClelan ST called The Clare. One of the owners, Mike Pitracola may still be kicking around Schenectady (I heard he had a place called Pietracola's a few years ago). A very talented guy.

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                                                              1. re: TonyO

                                                                Mike Pietrocola now owns and runs Park 54 in Clifton Park. I haven't been there yet but have heard good things.

                                                                1. re: meg944

                                                                  Thanks Meg. I'm glad to here he is still around. He is a great guy and made great bread, a fantastic stuffed veal dish as well as many other items. Where in Clifton Park is Park 54 ? I'll attempt to do a search also.

                                                                  1. re: TonyO

                                                                    Park 54 is in the building that was originally the Conservatory restaurant, behind Clifton Country Mall. Interesting space, haven't eaten at this newest incarnation.

                                                                    1. re: PSZaas

                                                                      Now I've eaten there, and it was really first rate. Good sourcing of ingredients, good wine list, prices moderate for high-end dining in the area.

                                                                      1. re: PSZaas

                                                                        Thanks for the update. Any details ? I'm surprised that there isn't more postings about Park 54. Hopefully they do well. I'm looking forward to eventually getting back to the area with enough time for dinner.

                                                                        1. re: TonyO

                                                                          FYI, Park 54 is now out of business. I think Clifton Park is just not a good spot for fine dining. Fromw hat I hear someone is going to open an Indian restaurant in that space. I haven't heard anything about what Mike P. is planning to do next.

                                                                          1. re: meg944

                                                                            That really is a shame. People will line up outside of TGIF for a $12.95 three course shitfest which I never understand. Hopefully Mike will land somewhere else.

                                                                  2. re: meg944

                                                                    I found Mike's website and as suspected, he is doing well from the reviews I read. If you try Park 54 before I do, please post a review. I see many of his signature items from 10 - 15 years ago at The Clare are still on the menu !

                                                                2. Sindoni Sausage!

                                                                  Anchors Fish Fry!

                                                                  Redwood Rot Dogs! Why is Schenectady & Troy the only places on the planet to serve that meat sauce on their hotdogs...none in NYC, or elsewhere in the USA they all use Chili? What is the secret in that hotdog sauce? Anybody know???

                                                                  Is Fireside still good pizza???

                                                                  Ferrara's rules the roost for Italian in Schdy.

                                                                  How's that Little Italy coming along in Schdy??? I think it's a little late, no??? Wouldn't it be more appropriate to call it Little Guyana? :-)

                                                                  Perecas Bread is the ultimate!

                                                                  How's about a nice big football size sammy from the Capri Deli...yummy!

                                                                  Highbridge Pizza in Rotterdam is well worthy of mention...pick up and delivery.

                                                                  The Old Bryan Inn in Saratoga is good! Throwback central...

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                                                                  1. re: netmover

                                                                    Good points although I have seen similar hot dogs in Vermont and Plattsburgh called Michigans. What I haven't seen outside of Albany is a fish fry (if you're from the area you know what I mean). Why this isn't a staple in every part of the country is still a mystery.

                                                                    1. re: TonyO

                                                                      Uh, ever been to Buffalo? Friday fish fry is THE thing...

                                                                    2. re: netmover

                                                                      netmover, we had Anchors Fish Fry this week. Scallops, haddock and smelts were all fried to perfection. Scallops were sweet. Simple is often best and if you fry anything it's usually delicious.

                                                                      1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                        You're killing me! Those Scallops pop in your mouth...and the Haddock is of the hook. How does that place compare to Combo's on Crane St.?

                                                                        1. re: netmover

                                                                          netmover, never been to Combo's. Also, I don't think I have ever set foot in Anchor's, someone always gets it to go and I just enjoy :)

                                                                      2. re: netmover

                                                                        to all schenectadians, pls. dont forget newest lunch on albany st. for hot dogs.

                                                                      3. Michigans? What's the dealio? Is that the same sauce, with the cinnamony flavour meat? Is that style sauce available in a jar for shipment? I'm jonesing down here in the FLA!!!

                                                                        As for fish frys-you are absolutely right! I have not seen them in all my travels outside the capital district of NY. We're surround by oceans here in FLA and there are no fish fry joints? Foot long fish fry on a nice Freihauffer Hotdog bun slathered in tartar sauce...whooeee!

                                                                        Oh and BTW, the pizza sux down here too! But it is nice and warm :-)

                                                                        ciao to all my chowhound paizanos

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                                                                        1. re: netmover

                                                                          They're called Michigans at a number of old-time places here. Try some good ones at the Farmer's Daughters outside of Saratoga Springs.

                                                                        2. I wonder what the story is with "Michigans" name, who invented them, etc?

                                                                          thanks for the tip!

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                                                                          1. re: netmover

                                                                            Not sure of the origin. I haven't seen any of the sauces commercially bottled around here, but in Albany, I remember being able to buy Hot Dog Charlie's sauce at most markets. Pruce Chopper also makes a decent sauce and jars it. Florida isn't the only place taht is pizza challenged. Vermont has a long way to go to catch up with New York (city or Albany).

                                                                            1. re: TonyO

                                                                              I tried that Charlie's stuff...and I wouldn't say it's dreadful, but it ain't the real deal, that's for sure. What's the name of the Troy chain, they actually had one up in Lake George near MIllion dollar Beach? Is that Charlie's? I prefer Gus's in Watervaleit (sic). I tried Mike's this Fall, which were good and have heard Newest (sic) Lunch is the best?

                                                                              Having been bred on Redwood's in Rotterdam, all other's have not exactly measured up, with the exception of the Brandywine Diner's (and even Redwood seems to have subbed the Tobin's First Prize Hot Dogs for some other Rot Dog) or maybe 1st Prize simply are not as good as I remember?

                                                                              1. re: netmover

                                                                                netmover, it was Redwood's or Broadway Diner hot dogs with everything when I was a kid . . .There might still be a First Prize hot dog place on Erie Blvd. Thought I saw it on my most recent visit. Not sure if they have the famous meat sauce.

                                                                                1. re: netmover

                                                                                  I know this is outdated, but if you want zippy sauce, go to Famous Lunch in Troy on, I think, Congress street.

                                                                                2. re: TonyO

                                                                                  Here's your origin, Anthony, the pained, pin-striped fan;
                                                                                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan...

                                                                                  Me? I think I'll stick with the Rem Dogs at Fenway :-))

                                                                                  1. re: Harp00n

                                                                                    Having ingested both in great quantities, I can only say that a loaded Michigan for $1.75 is far more enjoyable than a Rem Dog (or Fenway Frank) for $4.50. Not to mention the $7.00 Bud that you need to wash it down !

                                                                                    1. re: TonyO

                                                                                      ....especially, for you when you're on the losing end. But I would think $4.50 would still be a bargain considering it ain't crow with all those feathers :-))

                                                                                3. There are some great places in Saratoga Springs. It's a great town and offers a lot of different things to a lot of different people. Chez Sophie, 43 Phila, Brindisi's, One Caroline, are all a few of my favorites. Lanci's and Doc's as well. Now, if you want turkey -- all you gotta know is Winslow's. A nice casual meal in a nice place -- Olde Bryan Inn.

                                                                                  About 45 minutes or so north of Saratoga, in Warrensburg, is a phenominal place -- The Grist Mill. Take the drive. IMHO, it is so well worth it.

                                                                                  Eric

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                                                                                  1. re: ELA

                                                                                    43 Phila is closed in Saratoga is closed.

                                                                                    1. re: ELA

                                                                                      Is the Gideon Putnam (or something like that) still there? I know The Rafters (not a restaurant, a dance club/bar) on Saratoga Lake is long gone.

                                                                                      1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                        The Gideon is still there in Saratoga State Park, next to SPAC. Plenty of better choices around Saratoga, though. Yeah, I'd say the Rafters is long gone - that's about 20 years ago. :-)

                                                                                        1. re: salvador

                                                                                          thanks for the response, salvador. The Gideon used to be very good at one time. shhhhh . . .can't be 20 years! :)

                                                                                      2. re: ELA

                                                                                        Chez Sophie has moved. Prior to that we had an awful meal there with the chef's toddler in our laps and a gruesome goat cheese cake dessert with pine nut topping. Seems to be coasting on the name.

                                                                                      3. 43 Phila is closed? For the season? Renovations? Not for good I hope.

                                                                                        Eric

                                                                                        1. D'Raymonds... Some of the best and most consistant italian I have ever had... been excellent for years...

                                                                                          D'raymonds Restaurant & Lounge
                                                                                          269 Osborne Rd Ste 4
                                                                                          Loudonville, NY
                                                                                          5184596364

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                                                                                          1. re: chudd_medic

                                                                                            I've heard that the original owners have sold to new. Is it still good?

                                                                                            1. re: chudd_medic

                                                                                              Great crab wrapped in veal at D'Raymonds...

                                                                                            2. 43 Phila is history. Got a real estate postcard today showing the building for sale. Mouzon House- owned/operated by the same folks who run One Caroline is decent-Cajun/Creole/French influences.

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                                                                                              1. re: markabauman

                                                                                                I dined there only a few times, but the food was always top shelf. They had a good run for Saratoga Springs, which still remains a treacherous market.

                                                                                                1. re: markabauman

                                                                                                  Thanks for the info. So the restaurant has closed its doors, even before the building has been sold? That's too bad. This was an all-time classic place -- certainly during the racing meet. I wonder what's going to move in. Where is Mouzon House? One Caroline is a favorite of mine. I have always enjoyed it.

                                                                                                  Eric

                                                                                                  1. re: ELA

                                                                                                    Mouzon House is a brick building at the back of the parking lot on Lake ave, behind the farmers market.

                                                                                                2. Has anyone tried Park 54 in Clifton Park ?

                                                                                                    1. Yes, Mr. Mario Marino sure makes a fine pie !

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                                                                                                      1. re: TonyO

                                                                                                        How's Fireside these days? It used to be the BEST!

                                                                                                        1. re: netmover

                                                                                                          I moved to Vermont in 1997 but have been back to the Schenectady area a few times a year since. My last visit to Fireside was a couple years ago and it was as good as ever. They actually have an all you can eat pizza and wing special for around $7.00 that is a great deal. The pizza here is just plain awful with only a couple exceptions. Schenectady may not be very scenic, but you can eat well for very little money !

                                                                                                            1. re: NYchowcook

                                                                                                              It is near the Price Chopper on McClellan St. (If I remember, there is a pharmacy next door and the street is Eastern Parkway)
                                                                                                              Kind of a nondescript looking place but it has two floors.

                                                                                                          1. re: netmover

                                                                                                            I moved to NYC and have been back to Schenectady but not Fireside. This thread is amazing!

                                                                                                        2. Ugh...Fireside is kinda nasty. It's across the street from Price Chopper. We ate there in college, but having been there as an "adult", I think the only reason we went is because it was cheap.

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                                                                                                          1. re: MRS

                                                                                                            I have to agree that fireside isn't what is use to be. The pizza was fine but the service was terrible. I would rather spend my money at Homestyle, the service is much better for about the same price.
                                                                                                            My husband is a big fan of Our Original Pizza on Crane St, in the Mt. Pleasant neighborhood. I haven't been inside the place in years but get delivery from them and the pizza is consitantly good.

                                                                                                            1. re: food111

                                                                                                              Our Oringinal was sooooooooo gooooooooood! WOW...I was just talking about that place with a friend of mine down here who actually went to Mt Pleasent High School a couple days ago. Good and greasy as I remember...and let's face it folks, good pizza should be greasy!

                                                                                                              Homestyle stuck a nerve too, but I can't recall it all that well...it's been a couple decades since I actually lived up there and that was many brain cells ago!

                                                                                                              Happy NY 2 one and all!

                                                                                                              Thanks for all your posts...please keep them coming in the 2 double 0 eight!

                                                                                                          2. I had the same experience. Went back to Fireside after many years "for old times sake" and it just didn't work. Would recommend two other excellent places for pizza:
                                                                                                            Sovrano's- 63 N. Lake in Albany
                                                                                                            DeFazio's-266 4th St. in Troy- a classic institution

                                                                                                            If you like thick pizza (plain or with all kinds of toppings) an interesting old-style friendly tavern out in the country is Smith's Tavern in Vorheesville. Down home kind of place.
                                                                                                            We had a pretty decent sushi place up here in Saratoga- Mino's, but alas, he closed recently. There is a Sushi-Thai restaurant in town- their sushi is just ok. I have a personal bias of trying to have sushi only in Japanese restaurants (although I'm aware that many "Japanese" restaurants these days may be Korean or otherwise owned).

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                                                                                                            1. re: markabauman

                                                                                                              Mino's didn't close, they moved. Their located on Rt. 9 near the middle school. I'm not sure if they've reopened yet...they were going to last friday, but the guy didn't realize he needed to get his water tested since it's not city water any more. Anyway, too much info... Have fun.

                                                                                                            2. Sushi is one of those foods that should never be "ok" at least from a quality standpoint. I can live with it being less than creative in presentation, but if it is not perfectly fresh (which in Upstate NY and my home of Vermont) can be quite a challenge. The best advice is to find a sushi chef you can trust and follow him if he leaves !

                                                                                                              Too bad about Fireside. I never thought of it as "great" but certainly not nasty. About a 2 minute ride from there is Marino's (on State St.) That was always a great pizza.

                                                                                                              1. Hi: I would add the Chameleon on the LAke - which is on Saddle Brook Rd, off Rt 29 a few miles east of Saratoga Springs. It sits on Fish Creek, and in nice weather has outside dining by the water. They have done a great job there and it is consistently good, interesting, mediterranean fare.

                                                                                                                Also a fan of Saso's, Provence, the Wine Bar,and Justins.

                                                                                                                Recent trips to River Street Cafe were very disappointing - I am really hoping they are just going through a slump, because it was a favorite. But service was terrible, food was undercooked, and there was obviously problems between the chef and the help. They were also understaffed.

                                                                                                                I also will second New World Home Cooking in Saugerties as a major favorite. HAd an AWESOME Thanksgiving buffet there.

                                                                                                                1. The Wine Bar is great -- and from a selfish standpoint it's the only place in Saratoga where I can smoke a cigar.

                                                                                                                  Eric

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                                                                                                                  1. re: ELA

                                                                                                                    Went to The Wine Bar last night for the first time. I'll post a report about our experience.

                                                                                                                    1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                      Went to The Wine Bar again the other week. Like the option of small plates or larger portions. Can't remember everything. We had:

                                                                                                                      *Wine
                                                                                                                      *Arugula with orange, almonds and chevre
                                                                                                                      *Black cod with olive, orange and fennel
                                                                                                                      *Gnocchi - hand-rolled, melt in the mouth, unbelievably delicious
                                                                                                                      *Dessert - chevre ice cream with pistachios and cherry - really incredible and delicious - a pistachio paste and the cherry was like a fruit roll-up. Best dessert I've had since Falai.

                                                                                                                      One of my favorites in the region.

                                                                                                                  2. We now have a sophomore at Union College in Schenectady - I read all these suggestions with great interest - for a once-every-few-months visit, what will the college kids appreciate the most? (At home, he'll always pic seared tuna or chicken parm)...
                                                                                                                    Thanks!

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                                                                                                                    1. re: JLH

                                                                                                                      I recall those visits well...Mari's was always at the top of my list, Glen Sanders if was something special...Ironically my parents loved to eat on campus, especially because the staff at the place in the College Center was so nice. I always had to be ready with my list of places I was dying to hit.
                                                                                                                      We went to our 10th reunion last spring and still had to have our special rolls at Mari's.

                                                                                                                      1. re: MRS

                                                                                                                        You can also have something quick and lite at the downstairs pub/bar at Glen Sanders if you don't want to do the whole, upscale restaurant scene. . .

                                                                                                                      2. re: JLH

                                                                                                                        I would definitely second going to Mari's. It's only a half mile or so from campus, and the food is very good. Just make sure to make a reservation on the weekend. It's a small space and it does get busy. If you are looking for good Italian, I highly recommend Scott's on Upper Union Street. It's another small restaurant, but it's family owned and operated and the food there is excellent. If you want something more upscale, Cella Bistro is new and is up on Rosa Road not far from Ellis Hospital - about a mile from campus. It's a little pricey, but the food on the two occasions I ate there was very good. Your college kid might also like Thai food. There is an Thai restaurant over on State Street and Erie Boulevard. I find it very average, but it does seem to draw a large Union College crowd. I'll also mention Chez Daisie - a creperie - on Jay Street. It's another small restaurant, but it's nice for lunch. The crepes are very good.

                                                                                                                        That's all I can think of in Schenectady proper for the moment, but if I come up with other ideas, I'll post them here. Enjoy!

                                                                                                                        1. re: KMN

                                                                                                                          Isn't there a good diner on Jay? Maybe called Ambition? Is the Open Door book store still there?

                                                                                                                          1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                            Ambition is a coffeehouse and they have a limited but good menu. I am a particular fan of their tarragon chicken salad, with little grape halves. They are unfortunately only open late one night a week (and that only until 8, I think) but we like to take friends there for a nice Saturday lunch. Great atmospehere as well.

                                                                                                                            There's also a new creperie on Jay that I've heard good things about - not as good as Ravenous in Saratoga but still more than acceptable.

                                                                                                                            1. re: meg944

                                                                                                                              meg944, I finally got to Ambition for breakfast on one of my recent trips home. I think I had the Blueberry pancakes. The atmosphere was better than the food. It was a nice change of pace from going to one of the Greek diners in Schenectady. I'll have to try the Creperie next.

                                                                                                                              So, other than a restaurant here or there in Troy, Albany or Schenectady Saratoga is THE place for good restaurants?

                                                                                                                              1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                                I had no idea Ambition even served breakfast - sorry your experience was not ideal.

                                                                                                                                I certainly think Saratoga has by far the highest ratio of good restaurants per capita in the area. Unfortunately, since we’ve moved to Schenectady, it’s a bit tedious to go up there simply for dinner. On the other hand, there is definitely something to be said for being able to walk to local restaurants – and we appreciate the generally lower tabs as well.

                                                                                                                                We have been away in France for a bit but are looking forward to trying out Angelo Mazzone’s (he of Glen Sanders and Angelo’s 677 fame) new place in downtown Schenectady, Aperitivo.

                                                                                                                                BTW, we did finally get a chance to try Park 54 in Clifton Park, which was recommended here. We thought the food was top notch. The service was acceptable but not really fine dining service. (The waitress reminded us of the kind of server we get at local family Italian places, which is perfectly fine in its place but a bit jarring there.) Unfortunately, I hear they aren’t doing terribly well, and certainly when we went in on a Thursday night, only a couple of tables were taken. Perhaps someone will lure him back to Schenectady.

                                                                                                                                1. re: meg944

                                                                                                                                  I'm glad you were able to try Park 54. I hope it was just a slwo night as I know Mike really likes the location. I agree some of the servers seem a bit "green" in reference to areas such as wine service, food descriptions, timing. It can be tough to find a full staff of stars (or even a few for that matter). Did you ever get to try John Riccitello's on Foster Ave (I think that is the street ) ??

                                                                                                                                  1. re: TonyO

                                                                                                                                    Haven't made it yet - sorry. We've been traveling a lot, which means we're more inclined to eat home when it's just the two of us. It's still on my list, though!

                                                                                                                                  2. re: meg944

                                                                                                                                    Thanks, meg944. I'll add Aperitivo to my list for the next visit. If you go, please report back.

                                                                                                                              2. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                                p.s. And yes, Open Door is still going strong. Actually, just in the two years we've been there, quite a few more businesses seem to have opened on Jay. It could be a really cool area - it isn't there just yet but it has the kernal of coolness.

                                                                                                                                1. re: meg944

                                                                                                                                  Still in Schenectady and had lunch earlier this week at Pinhead Susan's. Sweet potatoe fries were good (not sure why they call them Irish fries?).

                                                                                                                                2. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                                  I really like Ambition for lunch. Real honest-to-goodness homemade soups and sandwiches.
                                                                                                                                  But for a splurge (calorie and cholesterol-wise) I traipse over to upper Union St. for brisket or corned beef at Gershon's. I real NYC-type deli with sour pickles -- tomato and cucumber. And then every so often they have an eggplant parm special I can't resist. And then I roll out and groan.

                                                                                                                                  1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                                    Could be - there is a place called Bangkok Thai downtown. Not bad, though the combination of Thai food, German beer hall decor, and the full girly girl "martini" list bugs me.

                                                                                                                                    1. re: meg944

                                                                                                                                      How is the thai food? I may have to check it out when I come up for a visit in a few weeks.

                                                                                                                                      1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                                        Not bad - Metroland actually named it "best thai in the Capital District."

                                                                                                                                        BTW, I think I found your Maurice's! There's a sandwich place called Maurice's about a mile west of Mohawk Commons (where the mall once was) in an old Friendly's building. I happened to note the name when we drove past yesterday.

                                                                                                                                        1. re: meg944

                                                                                                                                          Thanks so much, meg 944. So maybe they just moved? Maurice's was a Schenectady institution.

                                                                                                                                          1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                                            meg944, I drove by a Maurice's on my last visit. The sign looked similar to the old location on State Street where the Thai restaurant is now.

                                                                                                                                            1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                                              But no chance to get a sandwich, huh?

                                                                                                                                              We aren't in that area too often, but I'll keep it in mind. It might make a nice break the next time we have to spend the afternoon cruising the nearby Lowe's.

                                                                                                                                              1. re: meg944

                                                                                                                                                meg944, unfortunately I don't remember exactly where I saw the Maurice's. Plus I no longer eat red meat, so if you go please report back on whether they still have those amazing roast beef sandwiches on an onion roll. . .

                                                                                                                                                1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                                                  Will do! I'm not a red meat super-fan myself, but I do enjoy indulging now and again.

                                                                                                                                                2. re: meg944

                                                                                                                                                  Maurice's is now on Wolf Road.

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                                                                                                                                                  Maurice's Sandwich Shop
                                                                                                                                                  133 Wolf Rd, Albany, NY 12205

                                                                                                                                3. Update on River Street Cafe in Troy: Just had dinner with some Trojans (Troilets?) who told me that the River Street Cafe has closed. I will try to confirm this more definitely, but given the obvious decline recently, I am not surprised if that is true. I am sorry to hear this - I really liked both the atmosphere and the food the first few times I was there.
                                                                                                                                  According to same sources there is a new restaurant in that space. Quality is unknown as yet - anyone know about this?
                                                                                                                                  I am sorry to hear this - I really liked it.

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                                                                                                                                  1. re: LJNew

                                                                                                                                    I was in Troy yesterday and the note on the door of the River Street Cafe says that they're closed from January 1st to 10th and will reopen on January 11th. The current menu was also on the door and looked great. Our last two visits there we have experienced bad service from an older waitress, in the past the service has always been attentive, with a relaxed slow pace to the meal. The food quality lately has been just as wonderful as in the past. No website, coupons, advertisements, just a lovely place with the owner totally hands on and running the kitchen.

                                                                                                                                    1. re: LJNew

                                                                                                                                      Anyone been back to River St Cafe? I admired the chef/owner who set high standards with very tasty, well-prepared food, though I haven't made it over to Troy in years. I'd like to support him again.

                                                                                                                                      1. re: LJNew

                                                                                                                                        We had a great dinner at athe River Street Cafe this summer. Small and slow but we didn't mind the wait....

                                                                                                                                      2. Two brothers pizza in troy ny is some of the best pizza I've had and i've had many.

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                                                                                                                                        1. Chez Sophie is slipping, not close to itself 4-5 yrs ago and beyond. Been there twice since their move to the hotel and the service is hotel-like, just ok. The food was not worth the money we paid. Too bad, it was a gem when Sophie was with us.

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                                                                                                                                          1. re: janwil

                                                                                                                                            Chez Sophie will be closing the end of September 2009. I've read dinner is good. So anyone who wants to (or like me has never been) should go soon.

                                                                                                                                            1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                                              Yes, Jack and I are going for our final tasting menu this weekend. I am sad, though this will be better for them w/ their young children. They have a chance to run a destination chateau in the Languedoc.

                                                                                                                                          2. Alas, the best place for Italian food in Schenectady (and beyond?) was Francesco's (across from City Hall, on Jay Street). Vinnie made his own pastas, sauce, and breads. And he made the lightest, most delicious eggplant dish going: very lightly fried slices of eggplant wrapped around an airy cheese filling under a bedspread of his wonderful red sauce. This dish only appeared on the menu as a special, but those who knew about it found that Vinnie would make it on request any time. Ah, but you know what they say about all good things. Vinnie and Carol were tired after so many years in the biz, and last summer they sold the building and business to a couple who turned it into a mex joint that inexplicably had a couple of parm options on the menu. But these folks had some problems and the place has been shuttered for months, seemingly never to open again. For history buffs, I should note that there is good evidence to suggest that the building itself was once the home and office of one John DeMarco, who operated a private bank serving mostly the Italian community of Schenectady from about 1900 to the mid-20's.

                                                                                                                                            Pizza: Homestyle Pizza on upper Union Street is a favorite of SWMBO. Especially good is the thick crust variety. Formerly take-out only, now that they have moved from their Van Antwerp Street location their new digs have a nice sit-down restaurant section. Homestyle does such business that it is not uncommon to find a police officer directing traffic in and out of their parking lot. Union Pizza, on Nott Street (just down from the Stewart's Shop on the McClellan side of the Nott St hill) has plenty of fans who prefer it's thinner crust. And in the Sheriden Square Shopping Plaza (on Gerling Street just off Rosa Road, although in summer there is a driveway onto Rosa) you'll find Capo De Pizza, operated by Schenectady's former police chief. There are only a few tables, unlike Homestyle. Most of their business is take-out. They have some unique toppings. I especially like the breakfast pizza.

                                                                                                                                            Sushi--have tried all the one around. Mari's is okay. Not great. We are regulars at Miyako in Guilderland. Great service, beautiful fresh fish. Yum.

                                                                                                                                            Chez Daizie--can't say enough good things about it, but then I'm biased because I was their first customer. If you like crepes, this is the place to go. Ham and asparagus, turkey and stuffing, veggie, they are all excellent. Joanne, the owner/chef, studied French in Montreal and fell in love with the places like Chez Daizie there. So she created her own. Her prices are very reasonable and the food is delicious.

                                                                                                                                            The Van Dyke--I'm glad to see that they are brewing beer again, but they are missing out by not providing any free bar munchies. No chips, no popcorn, no peanuts. Nuthin'! If I'm going to drink more than one pint of beer, I've got to have something salty and crunchy to snack on in between sips. That's the main reason I stopped going there for happy hour.

                                                                                                                                            The Grog Shoppe--highly underrated. Yeah, it's a bar and a restaurant and there's a big screen tv and a jukebox. And from the outside all you can see is a beer sign in a dusty window and a nondescript door in the side of an old brick building (Erie Blvd, about 100 feet north of State, in the building that once housed both offices and a big movie house--the marquee is still intact at the corner of State Street and Erie Blvd). But there are also about 20 tables for diners. The kitchen is tiny, but they produce very good food properly cooked and presented. You can get everthing from burgers to steaks and I can say we've never had a bad meal there. It's not haute cuisine, but it doesn't pretend to be either. Prices are reasonable, service is unpretentious, desserts include homemade chocolate cake and ice cream.

                                                                                                                                            Slick's Tavern--corner of N. Ferry, one block N of State Street along N. Ferry. The best place there is for overstuffed sandwiches. The best. Period. You have to be ravenous to finish one and crazy to try to eat two of these monsters at one sitting. Legendary sandwiches. Good selection of beers on tap. Same family running the joint for decades. Good people. Walls adorned with photos of old Schenectady. Prices way low for the size of the sandwich. Two thumbs up.

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                                                                                                                                            1. re: Skenectada

                                                                                                                                              I just posted about The Grog Shoppe and glad to hear it is still there. When Iived and worked in Schenectady we went there alot. They had really good cheesecake.

                                                                                                                                              What about Pinhead Susan's? Is the small neighborhood near Union College still the best place for good Italian food?

                                                                                                                                              1. re: Skenectada

                                                                                                                                                I have now eaten at Capo De Pizza twice thanks to this post. It's more of a take out place. Still need to check out the Grog Shoppe, haven't been in 20+ years . . .

                                                                                                                                              2. nice run down sken...thanx!

                                                                                                                                                How does Cannali's stack up these days?

                                                                                                                                                1. I would highly recommend Scottis on Upper Union St in Schy for the very best Italian food in the area. It's a small place and easy to miss, but well worth finding. Run by a wonderful family.. homemade breads, salad dsgs and entrees are fabulous! I'd recommend trying the "lite red" sauce. It's not a lo-cal type thing, just their specialty marinara sauce and it cannot be beat anywhere. Also, the "chicken white wine" is amazing. They have nightly specials which are always great too....spinach ravioli, calamari, blue fish, etc, all excellent. Nice wine menu. Fairly priced, open for lunch but closed on Sunday and Monday. We have never had a bad exp or meal there. It's a hidden jewel.

                                                                                                                                                  1. Whose got the best fish fry? My vote is Anchors.

                                                                                                                                                    1. Well, it's not Harbor House in Clifton Park. I think they use Pollock which is, in my opinion, a garbage fish. I must admit, I have never had Anchor's, but I do like Ted's and Bob and Ron's. Although it is closed now, has anyone ever been to Fish Peddler's on State St. in Schenenctady ??

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                                                                                                                                                      1. re: TonyO

                                                                                                                                                        Wow,

                                                                                                                                                        Some great places I would like to add are Mezzo's on the Corner of Hamilton and Dove. It is high end takeout and table service with family style dinners on Sundays. The food I've gotten their has been very good and they have great coffee as well.

                                                                                                                                                        My favorite place to go for cheesecake lately is not the new cheesecake factory, but Cheesecake Machissmo on Hamilton, a few doors down from Mezzo. They make some really good and unusual cheesecakes -- some of my favorite flavors are guinness and frangelico.

                                                                                                                                                        For an Italian Deli, Cardonnas has really good homeade sauces and raviolis. Their new store is pretty posh with all natural meats as well. They are located on Deleware Ave, just past the Spectrum Movie Theater.

                                                                                                                                                        I'm also a fan of Debbie's Kitchen. Her dark chocolate rasberry cake with a mocha buttercream frosting and almonds was a hit at my friend's birthday party. She also makes some really great side dishes and some pretty fun sandwhiches. She is on Madison by Lark St.

                                                                                                                                                        1. re: adventuresinbaking

                                                                                                                                                          I agree with you on Debbie's and Mezzo's-- two of my favorite places in this area.

                                                                                                                                                          I've never been that hot about Cafe Capriccio-- too fancypants and precious. I start feeling like I'm being strangulated by tablecloths and overweening waiters before the appetizers have even arrived, and the food is to my tastes over-fussy.

                                                                                                                                                          Brindisi's in Saratoga is too fatty and menu is blah with too much veal. Hello, it's the 21st century.

                                                                                                                                                          Still haven't found a favorite Italian--except DeFazio's in Troy which has superior pizza (and now on whole wheat crust with organic veggies!). I'd like to try some of the places recommended in Schenectady.

                                                                                                                                                          Other favorites:
                                                                                                                                                          1. Karavalli in Latham. Divine Indian food, unlike your typical Indian restos
                                                                                                                                                          2. Al Baraki as others have mentioned, in Troy
                                                                                                                                                          3. Ocean Palace and Emperor's for Chinese (although last time we went to Ocean Palace service was off)
                                                                                                                                                          4. Jose Malone in Troy has been turning out some pretty good, fresh Mexican (with Irish thrown in)
                                                                                                                                                          5. Mrs. London's-- I love that place!!! Total heaven.
                                                                                                                                                          6. Ravenous= crepe place in Saratoga

                                                                                                                                                          1. re: Capitalnosher

                                                                                                                                                            Just drove by the new branch of Karavalli in Saratoga Springs on Phila St. and the "Open" sign was up. Anxious to try it.

                                                                                                                                                            http://www.karavallilatham.com/sarato...

                                                                                                                                                            1. re: markabauman

                                                                                                                                                              hi
                                                                                                                                                              well there are a lot of good recommendations on this thread, but I was wodering is anyone had any recent recommendations for albany - the absolute 5 best restaurants in the area.
                                                                                                                                                              we're going to be driving up from nyc in the evening, so I need somewhere that serves dinner atleast until 10:00-10:30pm.
                                                                                                                                                              thanks

                                                                                                                                                              1. re: monab

                                                                                                                                                                McGuire's
                                                                                                                                                                Jack's
                                                                                                                                                                Cafe Capriccio
                                                                                                                                                                Angelo's 677 Prime
                                                                                                                                                                Yono's

                                                                                                                                                                are probably the five best, depending on what type of cuisine you're after. All of them serve until pretty late.

                                                                                                                                                                1. re: PSZaas

                                                                                                                                                                  add the Pearl and take off 677 and i agree with this list.

                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: PSZaas

                                                                                                                                                                    Yono's, Yono's, Yono's . . .

                                                                                                                                                                    I have not been to Angelo's 677 Prime or McGuire's.

                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                                                                      Went to Yono's the other week and had a tasting menu. I liked my Indonesian course the best. Companions' meat and short ribs entree looked amazing and they advised it was. Cheese course was disappointing, not their forte. Service was excellent.

                                                                                                                                                                    2. re: PSZaas

                                                                                                                                                                      PSZaas, any news on how McGuire's is now that chef is at Creo' in Stuyvesant Plaza?

                                                                                                                                                                      We may need to add Dale Miller (opening April 2009) and 74 State (changing menu) to this list soon . . .Jack's might need to come off.

                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                                                                        I like Jack's, but it could be mostly nostalgia. They do claim it's the 2nd-oldest restaurant in the US, after Antoine's, and I like that, too, for pretty much the same reason. I haven't been to McGuire's since Andrew Plummer opened Creo, but friends who have dined there say it's still very good. We've been enjoying Hollywood Brown Derby recently, when we've been in a spendy mood.

                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                                                                          McGuires is still very good. I've been back a few times since the chef left.

                                                                                                                                                                      2. re: monab

                                                                                                                                                                        Angelo's has a real mix of polarized opinions - people either love it or hate it and vow never to return. A client tried the place last Friday night. First, he was surprised that valet parking was $5, when you're about to spend hundreds for a meal. After being seated, he and his wife found the place so deafening, that they asked to be moved to a quieter spot. They did get moved to a quieter spot, but still found the place deafening. They got up and left. These are well-travelled, educated folks with good jobs, and sing with Albany Pro Musica. They hated the place.
                                                                                                                                                                        I and 2 clients had lunch there, and despite only 4 or so tables taken, also found the noise disturbing. The service was lousy and food average. And, for $200 for lunch for 3 people (only 1 drink each), PLEASE serve french fries in something fancier than wax paper. None of us 3 ever plan to be back (unless someone else is paying :-).
                                                                                                                                                                        A reliable friend who has been in the kitchen claims that for a steak, all the chef did was simply cut open the plastic bag the steak was shipped in, throw on some spices, and cook it. A great steak house would age their own beef.
                                                                                                                                                                        On the positive side - it is definitetly the snobbiest / swankiest place in town (but bad acoustics), and suits the rich of Albany. It's looks like a NYC establishment. For the people who prefer to not rub elbows with the hoi polloi, this is the place. Nothing like the 'in your face' to the hoi polloi with the members lockers as soon as you walk in. Your Ferrari will not be out-of-place (the owners have several). But the food is average!
                                                                                                                                                                        We haven't been to McGuire's so can't comment on that one, but agree on Jack's (although a bit overpriced for the portions they currently serve), Cafe Capriccio's (ignore the neighborhood), and Yono's (ignore that it's in a Hampton Inn) for Albany city. Especially Yono's, when ordering the Ristaffel.

                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: salvador

                                                                                                                                                                          McGuire's is wonderful. I've never had a bad meal there. It ca be a bit loud in the front room by the bar but that's my only complaint. The staff are great and the food excellent. Capriccio I'm so-so on. It can be good but is uneven. Yono's is only good for the Indonesian, I think their other menu items are nothing special. I haven't been to Angelo's so I can't comment there. Jack's is good, overpriced in my book and crowded. Also, Justin's is still good though not what it was.

                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: lupaglupa

                                                                                                                                                                            Jack's is an institution in Albany. That being said, they are more about history and reputation than about great food. I have not lived in that area for over 10 years but my guess is that nothing has changed (except the prices). Granted, there is something to be said about that approach, but I would not put Jack's at the top of my list.

                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: TonyO

                                                                                                                                                                              You're saying you haven't been there for ten years? Jack's menu has been substantially modernized, although there is still a section of old-fashioned specialties on the menu. Ten years is a long time. Jack's is great.

                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: PSZaas

                                                                                                                                                                                PSZaas, I'm glad to hear that they have added some new ideas. I would hate to see a landmark fall off the map because they refused to change. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the classics (shrimp cocktail, Oysters Rockefeller, grilled chops, etc.) but fear that without some innovative cuisine, the location may become an Outback ! I'll have to try Jack's during one of my visits to Albany.

                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: TonyO

                                                                                                                                                                                  In honor of the Dylan concert here on Sunday, "The times they are a changin'" at Jack's. I took a look at their website and was quite impressed. It's nice to see Dale Miller onboard (Stone Ends in Delmar was a great spot). I'll have to try it out. I just had this image of lamb chops with mint jelly from 1985 !

                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: TonyO

                                                                                                                                                                                    Troy!? What about great places in or near Troy? I've heard of this ice cream place called Moxie's but I'm not sure exactly where it is...so any directions would be appreciated! I am interested in other ice cream places as well.

                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: dongato

                                                                                                                                                                                      I don't know about Troy ice cream places, but the gelato at Aromi d'Italia in Guilderland is superb. It's in the strip mall at the corner of Rt 20 and Karner Road.

                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: dongato

                                                                                                                                                                                        Moxie's Ice Cream 1344 Spring Ave Wynantskill NY 12198 518-283-4901, open from Mother's Day until the end of August, family owned since 1969 (that's from the business card I picked up there last year, the ice cream is amazing!)

                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: JWW

                                                                                                                                                                                          Does Ducher's still exist? they had good ice cream. Route 20 or thereabouts . . .Went there as a kid.

                                                                                                                                                                                        2. re: dongato

                                                                                                                                                                                          the ice cream man in Lansingburg is the best ice cream and sundaes in troy...

                                                                                                                                                                                        3. re: TonyO

                                                                                                                                                                                          TonyO, Dale Miller has now moved on to The Inn at Erlowest in Bolton Landing. I have heard good things about Stone Ends but never had the opportunity to go.

                                                                                                                                                                                        4. re: TonyO

                                                                                                                                                                                          I had lunch at Jack's twice recently. Yesterday I ate at the bar and had a cup of Manhattan clam chowder, croque monsier without the ham (my server said they added extra cheese), frites and beer. A carbohydrate kind of day. Service was excellent. French fries could have been hotter. Chowder and sandwich were delicious. Including tax, tip, beers $29. I can't believe I never ate at Jack's when I lived Upstate and worked just around the corner in Albany. A big plus they are open every day of the year.

                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                                                                                              Lucky for you they're going to be opening a Brown Derby across from the Palace Theater next year! They're supposed to have some of the original menu items and some other items from the original restaurant.
                                                                                                                                                                                              http://blogs.timesunion.com/tablehopp...

                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: AmyH

                                                                                                                                                                                                What's all this about the Brown Derby? I do not make the connection! How is it a one time famous eatery in Hollywood, CA, of all places, winds up in Albany, NY? I read the blog post and still do not "get it". Merry 2 all!

                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: TonyO

                                                                                                                                                                                            I read an article once that Jack, at Jack's Oyster house, really hates Oysters. I always laugh about that.

                                                                                                                                                                                            Last summer, 07 went there and both the food and service were incredible. Honestly, some of the best service I've ever had.

                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: GreenCheese

                                                                                                                                                                                              I think the chef, Dale Moore(?), has left since then. he went to open a shangra la restaurant in Lake George

                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: jaylhorner

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I hear Dale's new gig at Inn at Erlowest is superb.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Just need an occasion to trek up there and spend a night and dine the why i was meant to!

                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: NYchowcook

                                                                                                                                                                                                    NYchowcook, there is a separate thread about the Inn at Erlowest if you want to post a report.

                                                                                                                                                                                      2. re: lupaglupa

                                                                                                                                                                                        lupaglupa, Yono's is also good if you are looking for game (elk, ostrich on their continental menu).

                                                                                                                                                                                    2. re: monab

                                                                                                                                                                                      Fast forward 4 years and add The Wine Bar on lark to the Top 5 list . . .

                                                                                                                                                                                  2. re: Capitalnosher

                                                                                                                                                                                    Capitalnosher - I finally got to Ravenous. Delicious. And the frites with the variety of aioli could be addicting.

                                                                                                                                                                              2. Marino's FLying Pizza
                                                                                                                                                                                Redwood Hotdog with MEATSAUCE
                                                                                                                                                                                Ferrari's
                                                                                                                                                                                Jumpin Jacks

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                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: netmover

                                                                                                                                                                                  Looks like Wolf Road is still okay for food. Cranberry Bog and Pumpkin Patch still there? How are they? What about the area near Stuyvesant Plaza. Any decent eateries there? I used to have lunch at a place called Peaches and Creme when I worked on Route 20 (it was starting to go downhill re: service). Still there? What else is good over there?

                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                                                                                    That certainly brings memories - the Bog, and maybe the Park V while we're at it. All gone, replaced mostly by chain restaurants, unfortunately. Peaches and Creme in Stuyvesant still exists, and still a good breakfast place. In stuyvesant, Provence (french) is fine, and Mangia's for the Wednesday all-you-can-eat buffet. Mangia's has the best Long Island Iced Tea's in town, but only order it if Brianna is bartending.

                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: salvador

                                                                                                                                                                                      Did the gourmet food market in Stuyvesant survive or has it been replaced by something else? I think it was on the end near Peaches and Creme.

                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: salvador

                                                                                                                                                                                        salvador, we had lunch at Mangia's on one of my recent visits. Food was good and a nice value too. More of a lunch place or family place for dinner. Thanks for the suggestion.

                                                                                                                                                                                  2. Just got back from my annual Summer sojourn (short one this year)...

                                                                                                                                                                                    I ate the biggest Italian Hoagie in the history of Hogies from Capri Deli in Schenectady up at the track. A buddy of mine hooked me up BIG TIME! Thanks double D! Holy caca I cannot beleive I actually finished it! It's literally a half loaf of bread with at least a half pound of deli meat....unreal!

                                                                                                                                                                                    Another place I hit up was Morrett's Steak Sammies, also in Schenectady. Since the 40's! They do a nice job there too for sure.

                                                                                                                                                                                    We actually did a Happy hour in downtown Schenectady which I am very proud to say is coming back nicely. Started at O'Bryans, then Clinton's Ditch, then Pinhead Suzans and finally over to the Light House which has been transformed from an old white shack by the river to a disney-ish wonderland. The eats looked good from what I could see, but it was just drinks for me and the homies due to the Redwood Diner magnet that draws me in for the Meatsauce and Dogfest the minute I come back. BTW, I did try Mike's last time I was in town and can attest they too are dandy dogs! Had some Highbridge Pizza late that night just to soak up the suds and it was stellar as always.

                                                                                                                                                                                    O'D'd on Marino's Flying Pizza Sunday night after the Sierra Leone Refugee Allstars in Central Park. Two thumbs up for the pie and for what the city has done to bring life back to that park....what a show and what a nice feeling to see my motherland turning the rustbelt corner. They really did a nice job with that Music Haven...Bravo!

                                                                                                                                                                                    On a side note and just beyond the Capital District, we stopped at this place called The Silo right off exit 19 on the Northway for breakfast. This Ardirondack gem puts the Cracker Barrel to shame, in fact I think CB must have stolen the Silo's concept tit for tat! The place belongs on the National Register of Historical Places if it's not already.

                                                                                                                                                                                    3 days were 3 too few!

                                                                                                                                                                                    ps anyone been to Combo's Fish Fry on Crane Street? How is it? I missed my usual trek to Anker's and may skip it next time for a trip to Combo's should the word on this board be worthy?

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                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: netmover

                                                                                                                                                                                      Agree on the Silo. It's a great stop for those that want something decent, right off the thruway. Good food, service, and clean bathrooms. The large store that's part of the building has goodies for everyone. In recent years though, they've cut back their hours. Not sure why, they seem busy enough.

                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: salvador

                                                                                                                                                                                        Salvador what are some of your other favorite places thru out the region?

                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: netmover

                                                                                                                                                                                          Anyone been to Jumpin' Jacks this Summer? Still the same?

                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: netmover

                                                                                                                                                                                            Went last Wednesday - Still the same! But I think they have already closed for the year.

                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: swarttav

                                                                                                                                                                                              what's new and good in the Capital District?

                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: netmover

                                                                                                                                                                                                What a thread!
                                                                                                                                                                                                Sure beats Metroland's 'Dining Guide' (now one year out of date).

                                                                                                                                                                                                I have to throw in what used to be Tops Diner at the five corners of Rotterdam, and has morphed into Tops American Grill, Bakery & Bar and what a change! Excellent food, service, ambiance. Free Wi-Fi and zero trans-fats.

                                                                                                                                                                                                Disclaimer: I've no connection whatsoever to this place except that I know I can rely on it to bring guests from out of town.

                                                                                                                                                                                                ChuckD

                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: ChuckD

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I saw that monstrocity back in August...they've come a long way...since the old shop. I think I used to go to school with the daughters, do you know if it is still the Baharis family who own it? I heard it's still as good as ever. Those good Greek diners are sorely lacking where I now live. I could go for a Redwood Rot Dog with Meatsauce right now and I just ate a steak!

                                                                                                                                                                                    2. I moved to Schenectady not long ago and am kind of fascinated by all the little Guyanese joints -- but I'm a totally nerdy white guy and kind of intimidated. Does anyone have any recommendations?

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                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: kagi

                                                                                                                                                                                        butch up then belly up for some pepperpot soup or whatever else they're slingin' it may be your new favorite cuisine/culture...

                                                                                                                                                                                        bring a humble confidence

                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: kagi

                                                                                                                                                                                            all of the joints you are facinated by kagi...one by one. By now you should have something very positive to report back to us. We're waiting!

                                                                                                                                                                                            Remember, they're more nerdy than you!

                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: kagi

                                                                                                                                                                                              kagi, I started a separate thread (actually added to a post by Eat Well on 9/15/2007) on this very interesting Guyanese food topic. I also posted some ideas where you can begin your search. . .

                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                                                                                              I'm sorry, but I don't see any Guyanese recommendations in your thread here. Are you sure you provided the corrected URL?

                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: PSZaas

                                                                                                                                                                                                Thanks for letting me know, PSZaas. Thought I deleted this post.

                                                                                                                                                                                          2. This is a great thread!
                                                                                                                                                                                            No one has mentioned Milano's in Loudonville (Newton Plaza, Rt 9). It's the sibling of Provence and IMO is better. Inventive Italian kitchen, very comfortable yet casual. Good for lunch and dinner.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: NYchowcook

                                                                                                                                                                                              thanks! your input is most appreciated...anything new up there?

                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: NYchowcook

                                                                                                                                                                                                We have never been disappointed at Milano's but have had some bad service at Provence.

                                                                                                                                                                                              2. Ferrara's home made pasta.........Skinecktitty!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: netmover

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Any one been to Pettis Kitchen in Schenectady lately? Is it still good?

                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: netmover

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Looking for a good place to do a highschool reunion in the capital region...does anyone have some ideas please?

                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: netmover

                                                                                                                                                                                                      The Hall of Springs in the State Park in Saratoga is very glam but I was at a large conference at the Desmond off exit 4 of the northway and was really impressed with the large group food quality...How many in the class??

                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: jspear

                                                                                                                                                                                                        270+/-

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I've heard good things about the Desmond too...are there any other places that might take on a more rustic feel than a Hotel by the expressway?

                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: netmover

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Would the Hall of Springs transistion well day into night ? ie outsdoors pavillion and then into a nice hall ?

                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: netmover

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Yes, they have some outdoor spaces and the inside is gorgeous.

                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: jspear

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Keep in mind that the Hall of Springs is a large, formal catering space usually for big weddings, etc. They're catered by the Glen Sanders Mansion in Scotia- they do a decent job. But having an event there isn't cheap, is usually booked way ahead and you need a good size crowd to make it worthwhile. Also have to avoid conflicting when they do dinner during ballet/orchestra season. How many people we talking about? Have been to some nice events at the nearby Auto Museum. Also might consider the Dance Museum as well.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: markabauman

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Have heard great things about the Auto Museum, friend had his wedding reception there. The dance museum is also an interesting building.....

                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: markabauman

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Don't forget the casino in congress park, expensive and usually booked though.....

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: markabauman

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    the hall sounds over the top for this event.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    auto and dance museum both in Saratoga?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: netmover

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Yes, they are both in the state park on the south end of town, right off of route 9. The Dance Museum is right on route 9, the Auto, down at the end of the Avenue of Pines. Easy access off of 13N off 87.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              2. re: netmover

                                                                                                                                                                                                                I have not been to an event at Desmond Americana in a long time. The hotel atmosphere (the open courtyard) was always nicer than the food, but my experience is not recent enough to be helpful. Someone just told me the food is not that good, but not sure how recent their experience was. So I defer to other hounds.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Not sure what your budget is. The Villa Italia owners also own a restaurant/banquet and small hotel in Schenectady. I forgot the name but have been to a few events there. Unfortunately my experience is too long ago to be helpful regarding quality of food. Maybe someone else has a more recent experience.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Places with a hound in mind (not thinking budget here . . .) that have good food and banquet/private rooms (not sure if they can handle a capacity of approx.270):

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Cafe Capriccio (Albany)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Tosca (Troy)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Glen Sanders Mansion (Scotia)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Have you by chance been to Petis (sic) kitchen in Schenectady?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: netmover

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Not recently, netmover. I'm sure I went to Petis and to some of the other small Italian places near Union College many years ago . . . Not recent enough to be helpful.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        2. What are some of your favorite dishes at your favorite Capital District eateries??? Please be as speciffic as possible...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: netmover

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Have you checked out Bistro Tallulah in Glens Falls yet? It is worth the drive. Modern tasteful dishes in a great atmosphere.

                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: netmover

                                                                                                                                                                                                              the gorgonzola filet at Chianti with either the seafood stew or tricolor salad to start.....

                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: netmover

                                                                                                                                                                                                                The Bates Miamoto pizza at DiFazzios in Troy. Paul or Rocky will know what it is. It's basically a four cheese pizza combined with a pesto pizza. It's a lot of oil, but my god, it's delicious.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              2. My family really likes Ali Baba in Troy, especially the freshly made levash (flatbread) and yogurt dip which comes with many orders. The appetizer special and the Chicken Durum (chicken kabab pieces with salad & yogurt dip in a rolled up lavash) is also a regular lunch favorite. If we're shopping near Crossgates we might end up at Albany Pump Station, as much for the ambiance and beer as the food itself, which is basically typical pub food. I've personally been to Lombardo's and enjoyed it as an old-style experience but haven't gotten the rest of the family to tryit over the other two yet.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. not exactly classy joints, but at least they're originals, check these places out...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  -Anselmo’s italian food in Troy
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  -Hot Dog Charlies in Troy
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  -Fountain Pizza on New Scotland
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  -Ragonese Italian Deli on New Scotland
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  -Lionhart bar on Madison
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  -Bombers Burrito's on Lark
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  -Fish fry anywhere in the CapD!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. I’ve just moved away from Schenectady after living there for a year, during which I have to say I ate really well. Here’s what I learned (a lot of which just ratifies what people have already said in this thread – thanks for the tips!).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    First of all, there are a few things that the Capital District is really good at: Italian, fish fry, and hot dogs, mainly (plus a few other categories). You’re not likely to do well with other ethnic cuisines, or anything that seems too fancy. Thai, Chinese, Japanese, and Indian are okay at best; Mexican is impossible.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    That said, old-school Italian-American food in and around Schenectady can hold its own with any city in the US. My favorites were Ferrari’s (homey, wood-paneled atmosphere; outrageously good homemade cavatelli), Scotti’s (go for the “light red” sauce – it’s not lo-cal, just light in color. And delicious.), and Perecca’s for sandwiches, tomato pie, and bread (try the prosciutto and sharp provolone sandwich; don’t miss their zuppa di pesce during Lent). While you’re at Perecca’s, you can go across the street to Civitello’s for spumoni and gelato. Villa Italia has really good pastries, excellent coffee, and a good range of Italian liqueurs really cheap.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The Capital District-style mini hot dogs with meat sauce are great pretty much everywhere, but here’s my ranking (after exhaustive research):
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. Dinky Dogs, Schenectady (closed; not sure if they’re genuinely going to reopen, but I hope so).
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    2. Famous Lunch, Troy
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    3. Gus’s, Watervliet
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    4. Mike’s, Schenectady
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Wherever you go, make sure to order them with everything.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I didn’t get to investigate the fish fry as much as I wanted to, but I’d recommend Combo’s in Schenectady to anyone.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Gershon’s Deli in Schenectady makes the best Italian Mix sub I’ve ever had.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    A Taste of Greece on Lark St. in Albany is quite good. Try the swordfish kebab.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Hattie’s fried chicken in Saratoga is the real deal – I’ve lived in the South for most of my life, and I was pretty impressed.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Al-Baraki in Troy makes seriously great Lebanese food. I don’t usually expect much from tabbouleh, but their tabbouleh just blew me away. So did the baklava.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Slick’s in Schenectady is a great neighborhood bar that makes fairly insane sandwiches. It’s more meat than anyone ought to eat at once (I finished it, though). Worth experiencing.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Definitely check out the farmers’ markets, especially in Troy (where the market’s open year-round) – there are some farmers doing amazing things in this area. For other groceries, there’s the Troy Pork Store (try the Troy-style salami; this is also where the Famous Lunch hot dogs come from), Honest Weight co-op in Albany (very expensive, but good), and Capiello’s and Garofalo’s for Italian in Schenectady. Anything involving apples will be delicious; look around for hard cider from Slyboro Orchard in Granville.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Unfortunately, after some investigation (above), I figured out that while there are lots of Guayanese corner stores in Schenectady, there are no Guyanese restaurants. I hope somebody takes a chance.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Cella Bistro in makes pretty good tapas; not the best I’ve ever had, but if you get sick of Italian, it’s not a bad option.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    With all the great little neighborhood joints, I didn’t try too many of the fancier places. The Stockade Inn was a disappointment (great hotel and bar, though; I just can’t recommend the food). The Winedown Lounge was just fine for a steak during Restaurant Week, and has a good bar. Jack’s in Albany was a disappointment, too – mushy fish with an overbearing fruit sauce.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    With all respect to people who recommended them above, Bomber’s Burritos are gross. Mine tasted like a vinyl shower curtain.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The food at Jumpin’ Jack’s drive-in in Scotia is nothing special, but the place is a real gem – you don’t get more American than that. Fish Fry + Soft Serve + water-ski show = summer as it should be.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Happy eating!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: kagi

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      kagi, thanks for the report. We almost ate at Bomber's Burritos (Lark Street) on Saturday but went to the Thai restaurant next door. The Thai resataurant was pretty good. My first Thai food Upstate. My SO said there is a better Thai restaurant near Wolf Road and we haven't tried the Thai restaurant on State and Erie in Schdy yet.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Even better is Capitol Thai on Central near the Home Depot and Bob & Ron's fish fry. It's in a little strip mall next to a Quizno's.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: AmyH

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Thanks, AmyH. Where is Bob & Ron's? Anchor's Fish Fry is what I grew up on . . .and back in the days when I still ate red meat a hot dog with everything from Redwood's.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Bob & Ron's is on Central Ave, on the stretch between Everett and Wolf. Near the Home Depot, so also near Capitol Thai. They're only open Monday - Friday, though. So plan accordingly.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        2. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Incidentally, Bombers is due to be opening a new location in downtown Schenectady in the next couple of months. It isn't exactly my thing (more quantity than quality, in my experience) but it will be nice to get a wider variety of options downtown.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Bangkok Thai (which I think is both on Wold Road and State/Erie) is enjoyable enough if we're in the are - not amazing, though (probably especially for someone like you who is in NYC a lot.)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: meg944

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            meg944, the Thai place on Wolf Road is now closed.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Heard a rumor that it moved someplace on Central Ave...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: moedude

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                There is a new Thai place on Central. It has "Blue" in the name. It's where the little Greek place (maybe Empress Diner?) was. But I have no idea if it is related to the former Bangkok Thai on Wolf.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Don't bother with Bangkok Thai (State and Erie, Schenectady). Mediocre food and fratty bar. Other Asian restaurants that aren't worth it: Mari's, Mr. Wasabi, and Taj Mahal. Sitar and Karavalli are OK for Indian; I didn't really try too hard to find a Thai place, though.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        3. Jack's Oyster House
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Pepper Jacks for a great lunch wrap, soup or cheese steak
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Bupa di Bepo's for good family style Italian
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          ~Fred19

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. Mezzo in Albany, NY has closed due to illness. Cheesecake Machissmo will be moving into the Mezzo space and hopes to be open by mid October.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. We just returned from a weekend in Latham, and had wonderful dinners at BFS; wish I could be more precise about the location, but it was very good meditteranean food. They've also catered two affairs for my cousin where the food was terrific.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: mcf

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                BFS is on New Loudon Road (Route 9), just north of Siena College, south of the Latham traffic circle (Route 155).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: markabauman

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  No, it's not. It used to be, years ago, but that space is now Gorman's NY Deli, which is ok for lunchtime sandwiches, but I don't think anyone would say they ever had a wonderful dinner there. BFS has been on Western Ave., past Crossgates Mall, for years, and serves pretty good Lebanese chow in a congenial space.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  -----
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  BFS Delicatessen & Cafe
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1736 Western Ave, Albany, NY 12203

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Gorman's NY Deli
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  586 New Loudon Rd, Latham, NY

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: PSZaas

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Thanks for the update; it's been awhile.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. Was in Saratoga last weekend....had dinner Friday night at a great place called The Wine Bar....food was excellent....you can order small plates and share or order regular sized portions....very nice wine selection too. Service was great as was the atmosphere...sit in window if possible for a nice view of the town.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. Something new in 2009, New World Bistro Bar, Albany:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/6083...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Dale Miller is scheduled to open in April 2009:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    www.dalemillerrestaurant.com

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      We also had a very good experience at 74 State and they will be changing their menu soon:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/5861...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. Will be over-nighting in Albany/Schenectady in a month’s time; are any of these recs still valid?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Will have been driving all day and looking for a quintessential Albany resto, no reservation, and nothing too loud and trendy.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Had considered:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        McGuire’s
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Cafe Capriccio
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Pump House
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Maurice’s Sandwich Shop...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        What do you guys recommend?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: cuccubear

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I would recommend Jack's Oyster House as fulfilling all of your requirements.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: cuccubear

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Not sure what price range you are looking for. We just went to Cafe Capriccio on Tuesday night. It's a favorite. Another possibility is 74 State. It's small, dark, quiet and not trendy. They will be changing their menu soon. We really enjoyed our recent meal there. I think I posted a report if you do a search of this Board. I have not been to Jack's in a while. It was solid, nothing special. Reminded me of the Brown Derby which I read now has an Albany location.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            In Schenectady you have Cella Bistro and Aperitivo. I will be going to Glen Sanders in a week. Pinhead susan's is decent pub fare.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: cuccubear

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Maurice's Sandwich Shop (which moved to Wolf Road sometime during the long lifetime of this thread) doesn't belong on your list. It's a great place to pick up a sandwich to go, but nothing more than that. Capriccio and McGuire's both need reservations, Pump House is fun, but certainly not in the same caliber. Lots of new places, though. How're you managing to overnight in two different cities? If it's Albany, then I second the recommendation for Jack's for "quintessential" Albany. Don't order anything complicated, and you'll be fine.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: PSZaas

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Will overnight in either Albany or Schenectady, whichever we decide. They're both on the way to NH.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            2. Thanks guys! Since I’ll only be there for a short time, I wanted my meal to be the highlight of the visit (of course). These places sound great...I’ll report back and let you know...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: cuccubear

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sorry guys, my trip has been nixed and I have been redirected to Delaware, but thank for the input!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              2. For what it's worth, thought I'd post Metroland's best restaurants 2008:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.metroland.net/guides/2008_...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I disagree with the "best restaurant" pick based on our experience New Year's Eve. Not even close to Tosca. Chef Dale Miller was gone by then so maybe The Inn at Erlowest was "the best restaurant" earlier in 2008.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Procrastinating on packing and studying, obsessing over food, searching for a few new places to add to the "try list" (CCK, Ali Baba, Cafe Madison, Nicole's, My Linh & Van's, Dale Miller, Saratoga National, etc.) and thought I'd share this link (WARNING: some of the listings are NOT hound worthy):

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  http://www.metroland.net/guides/2008_...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    as it's downtown albany restaurant week we decided to try katrinella's bistro tonight. it looks promising. i'll try to report back soon.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    http://www.katrinellasbistro.com/

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    anyone ever been to yono's in albany? i'm thinking about that one for my anniversary.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    perhaps a tasting menu if they'll accommodate our tastes.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    http://www.yonos.com/

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: davmar77

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      davmar77, based on my experiences, Yono's is excellent. There are two restaurants. The formal one with 2 menus (American and ?) and the casual one. The formal restaurant has French service and live music (at least when I've gone). IMO it is one of the top restaurants in Albany. Tosca is very good if you have not been yet. However the "music hall" atmosphere leaves a lot to be desired. Yono's is more intimate and appropriate for an anniversary, IMO.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Congratulations!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        it looks quite interesting. i'm leaning towards that one. my anniversary is in early july so i have some time. we only tried tosca for brunch so far.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        and thanks!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        we attempted to go to katrinellas last night but they were booked solid, no walk ins. i didn't expect that on a tuesday. they are extending restaurant week for themselves so we may try again soon.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. Best bagels in Tristate Region thread:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/324257

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Summary - none are in the Capital Region. The Jonesville Store told me they had H&H bagels . . .

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        The best Indian is Karavalli in its various locations. Might be the best Indian anywhere.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: PSZaas

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          since i've been here i'll agree on that. only been to the latham location a few times so far. we were there for new years and they had an amazing buffet.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: davmar77

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Don't know about the Latham location, but the Saratoga restaurant has a great lunchtime buffet.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: markabauman

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Likewise Latham, although over the last year or so I've mostly ordered from the menu.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            2. re: davmar77

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I've only eaten at the Latham location, and even though I'm rarely in that area, all roads seem to lead to Karavalli at lunch time!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The weekday lunch buffet is very good. The weekend lunch buffet is over the top delicious.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              And always hot, freshly-cooked naan brought to your table. Mmm.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I don't know if I could ever order off the menu because I love exploring the different dishes w/ different flavors, and I don't get there enough. Only downside is I always overeat!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        2. A list I created based on my experiences (thanks for all the great suggestions and advice).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/617510

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I realize this question has nothing to do with the subject of this posting but can someone tell me how to read these posts and NOT have to view posts/replies dated 2006, 2005, etc? I am only interested in reading the current say ytd posts. The older posts talk about places that have long since closed, etc. Thank I appreciate any ideas/advice!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: VPF

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              If you are logged in, once you read the thread, the next time you view the thread you will only see new posts (and the thread will be designated as "New" on the board or your posts. Most posts don't go back several years, and there has been discussion on the Site board on closing posts after a year or.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: NYchowcook

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                NYchowcook thank you for the explanation. I notice this posts goes back to 2006 and of course a lot of the places mentioned here are no longer in business or have changed hands. Thanks again

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              2. re: VPF

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                VPF, this is a fairly recent list I created that covers many (not all) of the restaurants listed in this long, TOP thread:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/617510

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Once you know the name of the restaurant you might want to do a search of this Tristate Region Board and the most recent review/comments will appear in date order.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            2. HI All! I am heading home and was hoping to get some up to the minute picks for my weekend in Saratoga. Looking for solid breakfast, lunch and dinner options. Thanks in advance!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: netmover

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                There are too many options to list, so I'll just give you a couple of my personal favorites: 1. breakfast - Beverly's; 2. lunch - Max London's; 3. dinner - Beekman St. Bistro, Chianti. There are many more.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: gerchak198

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Bravo! That's exactly the post I was looking for B-L-D...thanks!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              2. I'm staying in Clifton Park in a couple weeks for a long weekend. Any suggestions? My in-laws aren't what I would call "foodies" so if I don't make suggestions we'll eat square pizza all weekend....

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Thanks!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: sbolduc

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  How far are all of you willing to travel? You might be coming just in time for the Saratoga track season, which puts a whole different spin on dining in Saratoga (many of the locals just avoid going out to eat then, or conversely, jump into the fray for the excitement). Do you want to just stay in Clifton Park, or possibly head the other direction towards Albany?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: markabauman

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    We will be going to the track one day but most of our time will be spent in Clifton Park. We'll travel around 20 minutes from my sister-in-law's off exit 8.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  2. re: sbolduc

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    You can easily travel to Saratoga, Troy, or Schenectady in ~15 minutes, and Albany takes just a bit longer, so I would consider that. But right in Clifton Park, Tai Pan isn't bad at all, especially for dim sum. Also, Shalimar just opened a branch there, I understand - that is basic but tasty Indian.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: meg944

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      The Ravenswood has really good chicken wings. For a casual meal on the water, check out the Bayshore Tropic Hut on Saratoga Lake.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: TonyO

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Just went to Tropic Hut (more of a snack place, super casual). Our experience:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        TROPIC HUT

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Fine dining it's not, but it's hard to beat the Saratoga Lake view and the live music was very good. Service was friendly and good. We started off with steamers and beer. SO had a burger with jalapeno and jack cheese. I had the teriyaki chicken sandwich (a bit dry and not much flavor). Highlight were the steamers and homemade Saratoga potato chips (I could have just had these for dinner and been happy).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Was up in Saratoga last week, and actually had 3 enjoyable dinners, although after reading this thread, I was afraid that I would find none. There certainly are plenty to choose from. We were there for a board retreat, so went to each with a large group, which really puts pressure on the kitchen, so the fact that everything worked well is a big plus.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Hattie's for a casual dinner was great. Probably the best fried chicken that I have had in ages. Sides were fine too. I had the cole slaw, which was not traditional, but very tasty, and cucumber salad, which was fine too. The chicken was not greasy at all, and very moist inside.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Maestro's was where we had our large group dinner with set menu. Food was very good, decent wines to choose from in the mid-priced category.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Saturday night we went to "Dine" with a group of 12. Everyone thoroughly enjoyed this meal. Food and service were excellent, and everyone was happy with the choice. Again, it is very difficult to serve a large group, and to get all dishes out perfectly cooked in a timely manner makes the meal much more enjoyable. My fish was perfectly cooked. My husband had the pork chop, which was also excellent. Everyone had something different, and no one complained about what they had. Even the starters were great. My husband ordered something for a started that sounded like it would be horrible, but was surprisingly good, and great as a table-sharing item. The tuscan fried potatoes. It is french fries topped with a tomato sauce mixed with prociutto, peppers, onions. Something like that.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: robinsilver

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            robinsilver, thanks for the report. Glad you had good dining experiences. A relative went to Maestro's recently and also had a good experience. I have not been to Hattie's or Maestro's yet. I've heard they can be inconsistent. I went to Dine once and the service was very good.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I am looking for three meals in Saratoga with good food AND a nice atmosphere. Price is not a big concern. We have a group of 8 and would like to have an upscale dining experience. "Sceney" or "trendy" is ok too as long as its not too loud or too casual. We are in town for opening weekend of the track so I know I need to get the plans set now. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: Debbie

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                As I mentioned above, Dine would be an excellent choice for you. Although some would call it pricey, I do not. It is definitely upscale dining. The concierge recommended a few other places as well, and one of them I said, "this group doesn't go anywhere that .99 is in the price of each item". Hatties is ver good, but also very casual.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: robinsilver

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Capriccio Saratoga is now in the former Dine location . . .

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                2. re: Debbie

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  In addition to Dine, you might like Siro's, although it can be loud, or Chez Sophie, or Chianti. Some really delightful places, like Beekman St. Bistro, are just too small for your crowd.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: gerchak198

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I don't know if it's been posted anywhere on this board, or this thread yet, but Metroland magazine has just come out with its "Best Of" issue. Here's the link for their food choices. For what it's worth, like most similar polls which are essentially popularity contests (think "Zagat"), you may or may not agree with the selections, but sometimes it makes you aware of a place previously unbeknownst that turns out to worth a visit.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    http://www.metroland.net/guides/2009_...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: markabauman

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Actually, this "best of" is done by the Metroland staff - they also have a "reader's poll" that comes out at another time. (They used to combine the two, but they are both such popular issues, I think they decided to combine them to maximize ad revenue.) I usually get some new insights from both, but the reader's poll is less reliable, in my experience.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2. re: sbolduc

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Is Loudonville within your driving area? I would certainly take less adventurous eaters to Milano's on Route 9 in Newton Plaza. Creative Italian, I would call it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Why go there? Because the food-shy won't be put off because there are familiar dishes, that are always well done and tasty. Good salads, pizza, pasta -- and not ordinary.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Also, if you are more adventurous (as am I!) there are always interesting specials and the kitchen has a great range. I always have a great meal there, and so do my dining companions regardless of their adventure range food-wise. (And no, I don't work there!)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      3. Charlie's Hot Dogs has invaded Saratoga! Great addition to the local drunken eats scene...how long has that been there?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        The Dough Boys at Esperanto hit the spot in the wee hours too!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        There was another pizzaria on a corner just down the hill from Broadway that offered many options one of which I devoured after a great day at the track and prior to a an old school concert I saw.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Saratoga was buzzing beyond beleif opening weekend of the track. What a great place!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. Lots of helpful information in this thread.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          My family lived in Niskayuna/Schenectady from the mid-'50s to the late '70s, and will be returning for a mini-reunion later this month. We have great memories of a legendary pizzeria on Michigan Ave. in Schenectady, Johnnie Demarco's ( http://tinyurl.com/demarcos ). His descendants reportedly run a pizzeria in Rotterdam, Joe's Pizza Place and Restaurant. An archived version of another website ( http://tinyurl.com/lumzzg ) suggests that some of his relatives planned to open a pizzeria in Lake George, NY.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Any information about these pizzerias/restaurants, and/or recent reviews of Chez Sophie in Saratoga or Cella Bistro in Niskayuna, will be greatly appreciated.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: Maple7

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            We went to Cella Bistro recently and it was very good. Chez Sophie will be closing the end of September. A recent post on this Board suggested Chez Sophie is better for dinner than lunch.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: Maple7

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              As a former resident of that area that ofen seeks "nostalgia cuisine" when returning, I would recommend the following:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. Cappiello's, Broadway, Schenectady: same building, same owners, same food for years and years. Not to be missed and onlyblocks from Michigan Ave.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              2. Marino's Flying Pizza : See Above

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              3. Gershon's : See Above

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              A new entry that would be great for a family gathering is Apertivo (State St. near Proctors). My description would be Italian Tapas.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Also, the City Squire on Keyes Ave. (off Union St. ) has great chicken wings and I believe, is still the only tavern in Niskayuna. They have a plaque dedicated to Art Nitchman, one of Niskayuna's finest, may he rest in peace.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: TonyO

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Maple7 you might want to do a search of this Board for Apertivo or add a new topic. I have not been to Apertivo in awhile but read a less than positive post recently.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  NYC quasi-foodie here, about to start (8/22) a trip with a Berkeley foodie; itinerary: Schenectady - Cherry Valley - Cooperstown - Schoharie Crossing - Northville - Saratoga - Williamstown - Pittsfield - Washington Depot, CT - NYC. . Planning to try Rose and Kettle in CV, Blue Mingo, Alex & Ika, Danny's Main Street Market.in Cooperstown. Undecided about:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Schenectady (had hoped to stay in Stockade district, but all booked for wedding, so probably Parker Inn. I arrive Amtrak midday; partner flies into ALB at 5 pm.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Q: Can I walk safely (72 yr old woman, perfectly fit) from Amtrak station with a small rolling carryon to Parker Inn in mid day? Read the neighborhood was "dicey". Satellite GOOGLE map not promising. Should we eat at Bangkok Thai Bistro (walking distance from Parker Inn?) or pay for an extra day of rental car to drive to Cella Bistro? Or elsewhere?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Northville: any good restaurants? hope to stay at Inn at the Bridge
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Saratoga: Karavalli"s or Chez Sophie? (Is latter losing luster due to imminent closing? Ate there several times in the past and loved it..)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Williamstown: Staying at The Porches. Where to lunch and dine?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Pittsfield: Best lunch?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Washington Depot/ Litchfield County: Best lunch and/ or dinner?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Many thanks for all comments.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: oldnews

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Chez Sophie is actually extra-great right now.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: oldnews

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      You can certainly make the walk ( I would at anytime) and it should be less than 10 minutes. Apertivo is right there as well and we thought it was great.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        oldnews, agree with TonyO a walk from Amtrak to the Parker Inn is fine. I probably wouldn't do it anytime (just like Albany, downtown Schenectady can get deserted). Suggest you walk to State Street from Amtrak, then head to the Parker. I have not been to the Thai place. Pinhead Susan's is good for pub fare. I've read/heard some mixed reports on Aperitivo lately. We had a mixed experience at Glen Sanders Mansion earlier this year. The Mansion is another more upscale option. We went to Cella Bistro recently and had a good experience. Not sure if it's worth an extra day for rental car. These days Cella Bistro is pretty much it for me in Schenectady (unless you go for Italian, hotdogs with everything/I don't eat red meat but still remember these as a kid, Anchor's Fish Fry or pub fare). You can also walk to Villa Italia for dessert, espresso, etc.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          oldnews, I just came across a list of Schenectady restaurants (& map) on

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          http://www.downtownschenectady.org/Co...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            oldnews, where have you eaten since 8/22? How was it? Please report back. You might want to start a new topic/post . . . .

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              FDR - I'd like to give you a special shout out for helping make this post so awesome! Your insights and info are spot on. Thanks a million!!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: netmover

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Thanks for your kind words, netmover. It only works if we all share our experiences, history and report back :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            THanks to all who replied to my original post.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            One additional request:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Any good wine shop and/or deli near Parker Inn or Stockade District in Schenectady?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Not a long walk from the Parker Inn, sort of on the way to the Stockade (follow Jay Street by City Hall over to Union Street) is Englebardt's Liquors on Union Street. However, I have not been in there for a number of years, so I can't comment on how good the wine selection might be. Someone else might know better.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: markabauman

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                oldnews, drove by Englebardt's (511 Union - right near the entrance to Schenectady's Little Italy) on my way to another gelato at Civitello and wrote down the phone number: 518-372-4788. PS I have not had good luck with wine in Schenectady though there is a place on Carmen Road that is good. Definitely NOT walking distance.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Nice link to Schenectady's Little Italy FDR...it's growing ever so slowly. They sure waited long enough to cristen it as such! I would love to see them put together a Little Holland in the Stockade. Such a shame they do not make that area the showcase of Schenectady...it really deserves to be put up on a pedestal.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Reading your little Italy post makes me wonder if there is a better loaf of bread than Perreca's anywhere on planet Earth?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Anker's Scallop Roll kicks Ass! Skin neck titty...your winning Charade skit!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              netmover, Perreca's and More is now open . . .man cannot live by bread alone so now they have an open, light, airy restaurant right next door!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                That's awesome news!!! Get me an update soonest...if their cuisine is as good as their bread, we got a Grand Slam in the Little IT! I await your review from South Beach where I have been hibernating since '85....should be back soon though for a dose of La Dolce Vita!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. We seem to be eating at Bloomer's Bistro (Malta) more and more these days. Not sure if they are already mentioned here.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/640278

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. IMHO 8 Tables deserves a mention here:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/639111

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              A recent thread on Saratoga dining (circa 2008-present):

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/509653

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                8 Tables is now Twenty 8 tables . . .after Prime at Saratoga National and Sperry's (mentioned in post below) three of the best S. Springs has to offer. . .

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Twenty 8 Tables is closed. Panza's 28 Tables is in the location and Chef Ireland (The Wine Bar) is back in Toga.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              2. My friend and I just googled 'garafolo's schenectady' and this massivve post came up! I couldn't even find the name mentioned in it-it's sooooo HUGE! Thanks to one and all for your input over the years. This has to be one of, if not thee, Holy Grail when it comes to the NY CAPITAL DISTRICT. WoW I am still amazed and humbled...THX a MILLION.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Reason why my friend was googling garafolos was 'cause I just got back from the MUTHA LAND and as such have something new to report.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                GARAFOLO'S hot sausage IS THE SH***IT! 100+ year old family owned biz in downtown Schenecatday (Little Italy-ish?). Their fresh Kielbasa is unreal too! I threw a last minute 80th BDAY party and was going to go to Sindoni's when my Italian buddy said to go to Garafolo's instead...Holy Cow/Pig? am I glad I did! Of course my Polish buddy insisted Sindoni's was better but since I was going there to be sure and pick up some "fresh" Kielbasa as it is the best anywhere! I live in Miami and don't get home much (couple times a year) but I cannot beleive I have never had the pleasure of savouring what may be the best Hot Italian Sausage on Earth?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Other foodie experiences included a trip to Hi Bridge Pizza on the way home from the airport. 8 cut good - 6 cut not so good. Seems bigger is better at HiBridge!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Focastle for a nice escape to the country and a nice grilled sammie, Bull Fighter was the name I think? Roast Beef Swiiss and Russian. And that Fruit of the Forrest Pie is SICK! Take one to someone you love soon!!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Barncider is another great place! Love the indies and this IOWA one is off the hook busy and off the chain good! I had a nice Blackened Pork Chop from the bar menu.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Ferrari's in Schenectady is still SWEEEET as SUGAR! Having been there since I was a kid not much has changed and that is definately a GOOD thing! Chicken Pompei (pepperonis/and a spicy red sauce) with home made Cavatelli's. Antipasto exquisito and did I mention the Meatballs? 3 meals for the price of 1! Succulant sauce replete with a throw back ambiance...this place bleeds Schenectady! My Valentine lunch leftovers fed 2 later that night. LOVE this place and it's always a joy to go when I return.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                We did Smith's in Cohoes for lunch one day after a trip to the "should be" famous Cohoes Water Falls. I had a pot roast sandwich which was great. Nice joint from the 30's is really cool.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Next day I caught the train to NYC where I proceeded straight to Chinatown for some pyschotic soup dumplings at Joe's Shanghai...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: netmover

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Thanks for the report, netmover. Enjoy reading your posts. I have not been to Smith's (sounds retro), you've peaked my interest . . .

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    New owners have nestled in at Smith's. It's way retro. You walk in and there's about a hundred foot long bar, orginally from NYC, then there's a dining room in the back with a fireplace. Really rustic feel to the place. It has all the classics...can't really speak to the caliber of the dinner menu, but it sounds like your basic comfort food. You should check out the falls sometime...it's hard to beleive they are relatively unknown. I wanted to go to Gus' Hot Dog's but got shot down! Oh well, it turned out for the best Smith's was well worth a visit for lunch.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                2. Is it true Ciro's was bought by the Entourage cast?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Best wishes for a bountiful meet this Summer in Saratoga!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      THX FDR!!! That menu made my mouth water...anything you recommend I don't leave the Capital District without trying during my trek North in 2 weeks?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Have been disappointed at Jack's twice in a row now- too bad, it used to be good and now it just seems overpriced.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but I recommend the River Street Café in Troy. Very good food, nicely presented in an old brick bell forge. A good place for a leisurely and memorable meal. Not cheap, but no more expensive than Café Cappricio (in Albany, also highly recommended) and certainly less than someplace like 677 Prime (nearly $50 for a steak? You've got to be kidding! This place is strictly for the wealthy, and they can have it to themselves.)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Yono's on Hamilton St is still offering very, very good Indonesian.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Creo in Stuyvesant Plaza draws a mixed review from me: commendable menus (decent brunch, also some magnificent crab cakes) and excellent service but quality on the plate has been somewhat inconsistent.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Good Japanese at Koto up by the airport. Fine food and extremely reliable over eight or ten visits now. IMO, the best sushi I've had in the area.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        On a less fancy note, I'm quite fond of Ichiban, which has reasonably priced Japanese and Chinese offerings. I prefer the little one on Central Ave near Quail to the larger one out on Western Ave by the mall- same menu and prices, but both taste and portion size seem superior at the original small one, even though Mama-san isn't there supervising all the time as in years past.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        New World Bistro Bar on Delaware has some mouthwatering combinations of flavors on the menu. And they're right next to the Spectrum. My problem is, I can't resist popcorn with real butter at the movies. Have to eat lightly, and before the film at that.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        And I highly recommend Sitar in Colonie for traditional northern Indian fare. Their prices have jumped nearly 50% in the past year, but everything I've had there has been great. They have a lunchtime buffet (plus their big Sunday buffet, starting again after Labor Day) and a few dishes that really stand out- the chicken shahi korma (with cashews and cream) is fabulous, and I've never had better palak paneer anywhere.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Well, I set out to throw in my two cents and wound up posting a lot more than I meant to, but I really like a couple of these places.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        25 Chapel Street, Albany, NY 12210

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        River Street Cafe
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Ichiban Restaurant
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        338 Central Ave, Albany, NY 12206

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: eclecticsynergy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Yono's hasn't been located on Hamilton Street since about 10 years ago. It was at the Armory Center for a while and now it's in the Hampton Inn on Chapel Street.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. Summer Trek 2010

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Very much a quickie long weekend with a reunion thrown in the middle.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Hello Saratoga! Shake Shack and Blue Smoke are a nice addition to the Flat Track. Love that Hattie's Chicken Stand too. YA BAAABY Golden Crunch of goodness that you offer moist as can be...viva la Hattie! Viva la Toga! Love that place in the Summer time. Gotta have the GO2 Manhattan Clam CHOWDER 'tis the best EVER!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Had the Horse Shoe's BBQ Combo which consisted of a MEGA Plate of fall off the bone Ribs piled high with Pulled Pork...my Lord that put me into a tail spin. Hit the spot and then some if you know what I mean? Way too much for one but after a long day with no food it seemed to disappear into thin air! ;-) It's all good!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    More Perreca's in Schenectady's Little Little Italy is nice comfort food joint at a good price point. Had a Roasted Half Chicken cooked to perfection with a side of Penne & Red Sauce along with some Scorched Escarole. Small Personal Coal Fired Pizza Margarita Appetizer to soak up some of the suds from the night B4 too. Great addition to the local cuisine scene.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Forno Tuscano in Downtown Saratoga was solid. Decent Lazagna - excellent ambiance, where we sat anyway...outside by the ivy.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Two more Redwood Hot Dogs on Hamburg Street down the Hatch...Yes Please!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Rounded things off with a nice lunch on the Mighty Mohawk River's Light House over Freeman's Bridge on the Scotia side... I LUV NY especially in the Summer !

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: netmover

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Another Marino's Flying Pizza in Schenectady just for good measure...this place is the BOMB!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Glad to hear Marino's still has a great pie. Always my favorite before moving to Vermont in 1997..............

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I just got word from an ole homie that Our Original Pizza in Mt Pleasant is still good! Got an assortment of slices which traveled well - all the way to Utica. Anything new out there in Capital-landia?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The Wine Bar on Lark St. now features Jason Baker in the kitchen, which is "can't miss." Cafe Capriccio is opening a branch in Saratoga. Also in SS, the rdoubtable Sperry's now features Dale Miller in the kitchen and is terrific.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: gerchak198

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                gerchak198, ditto! A recent thread about The Wine Bar on lark's food:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/790643

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                "Rising star" chefs re: Wine & Dine for the Arts:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://blog.timesunion.com/tablehoppi...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  so Dale Miller, the restaurant, is no more??

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Dale Miller is now in Saratoga at Sperry's. His old place is now called Taste and has garnered some good reviews.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Had a good meal at Taste last week. Some very attractive appetizers on the menu, I remember thinking next visit I'd try four or five of them instead of a main course.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. WOW! I'm stunned at the food diversity available in the Greater Capital District now. When I was a kid (back when dinosaurs roamed the upper Heldeberg Region) the idea of a Mexican or Chinese restaurant was unspeakable!!! And many people were even skeptical about Italian restaurants. Today