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Bad Brisket at Kreuz's Today

Ron L Dec 8, 2006 10:52 PM

Today at 2:15pm we were due for Kreuz's in our rotation between Kruez's, Smitty's & Black's in Lockhart. Maybe it was later in the day than the so-called magic hour of 11:30am, but our brisket was really tough and tasteless. I could barely eat one slice. How I longed for a piece of Rudy's wet brisket -- that's how bad it was!

The hot sausage was pretty good though.

Are there magic time(s) of day to enjoy brisket at the Lockhart BBQ palaces?

  1. twinwillow Jun 24, 2009 09:46 AM

    Smitty's is very good! Be sure to have the beans with your 'Q. The best beans, anywhere!
    And also, be sure to come in through the back door in the parking lot. You won't believe the "chopping room" and pit. Amazing. Bring a camera to take pics of the "fire pit"

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      joanna.mcmaster Jun 22, 2009 08:14 AM

      Where is Smitty's located?

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        carfreeinla Jun 23, 2009 04:47 AM

        Smitty's is in "downtown" Lockhart.

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        carfreeinla Jun 21, 2009 01:53 PM

        We did our annual holy trinity trip ( the contents of the trinity vary each year) a few weeks ago. City Market, Kreutz's and Smittys. We have decided to eliminate Kreutz's from the rotation next year. While the sausage was terrific, everything else was sub par: way too salty and the ribs reminded me of ribs that I had had in NY at Hill Country- the kind of pink that comes from not being cooked, as opposed to the smoke. For my money, its Smitty's by a long shot...

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          pyescamilla Jun 25, 2009 11:50 AM

          We hadn't been to Kreutz's in a while but stopped in on June 14 and found the same as you. The brisket was way to salty. The smoked ham was the best on the plate.

          We still really like Black's and Smitty's.

        2. twinwillow Jun 21, 2009 12:37 PM

          That's why I go to Louis Mueller's in Taylor. Exclusively!

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            duncan36 Jun 21, 2009 11:26 AM

            Kreuz serves lean brisket. People for some reason equate good brisket these days with being extremely fatty, greasy, and falling apart because of this.
            Trust me its a lot cheaper to serve half meat and half fat brisket. Lean brisket places try to elevate the cheap cut of brisket with a light smoke and seasonings and they usually succeed into turning into something that could be mistaken for a much pricier cut of beef.
            If you go to a place like Kreuz market that serves lean brisket just ask for a juicier cut of brisket, they'll serve it to you. They value their customers however and so wont serve them a cut of half meat half fat unless you ask them.

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              Jaymes Jun 22, 2009 07:38 AM

              The last three times I've been to Kreuz, not only has the brisket been "lean," it's been dry, tough and salty. It appears from your post that what you're trying to say is that the rest of us don't know what we're talking about.

              My 89-year-old-father has ALWAYS ordered his brisket lean, and still does, so lean brisket is not a new concept to him. The problem at Kreuz has not been that it's lean; it's been that it's badly subpar.

              We're not giving up on Kreuz. But really....to admonish the rest of us because you think we don't know the difference between lean brisket and bad brisket is just silly.

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              Carter B. Dec 11, 2006 08:17 PM

              I had some nice brisket at Kreuz's about 2 months ago (better than Smitty's) so timing does matter and 2:30 brisket at Kreuz's has always been disappointing for me.

              For consistancy, Taylor Louis Mueller's has always been uniform for me--probably because Bobby is always behind the counter (though in reality I'm realizing I haven't been to Taylor since spring).

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                zeeklafreek Dec 11, 2006 02:16 PM

                ya'll just need to go to Artz' Ribhouse. :)

                1. tipitina Dec 11, 2006 12:38 PM

                  My boyfriend and I were just in Lockhart last week to sample the holy trinity of Smitty's, Blacks, and Kreuz. We tried a slice of brisket at each one. At Kreuz we also had a slice of prime rib. At Smitty's and Blacks we ordered the sausage. By far the winner was Smitty's. The brisket was nice and juicy with a great crust. The sausage at Smitty's was very greasy - which we enjoyed. If that's not your thing, someone told me you can ask for "dry" sausage, which is cooked longer to get rid of some of the grease. Even though the brisket at Kreuz was dry, it had a nice smoky flavor and made a nice condiment to the prime rib slice. Blacks brisket was moister than Kreuz but there was not very much flavor. The sausage was good, but not outstanding. Next time, I'll go straight to Smitty's.

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                    Kirk Dec 11, 2006 03:06 PM

                    Now THAT's a chowhound ... brisket serving as a condiment to prime rib!

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                      SAguy Jan 16, 2010 03:23 AM

                      I was thinking, you go to these BBQ powerhouses and order a slice?

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                    oltheimmer Dec 10, 2006 11:43 AM

                    I ate at Kreutz in May. The ribs were awesome but the sausage was overcooked and practically mushy. I don't even remember the brisket because the ribs were so good.

                    I skipped Lockhart a couple of weeks ago and went to Luling where the ribs and sausage were great, the brisket a little dry.

                    I agree with MPH - they all have their bad days, seems like more so now than in the past.

                    1. MPH Dec 10, 2006 07:22 AM

                      That's too bad. To be fair, I've had bad luck on occasion at all of the Lockhart places except Smitty's. Some people love Black's, for example, but I always get a bad piece of brisket there, no matter when I go.

                      Here's a very well-written, informative opinion on one hound's very good day at Kreuz Market:

                      http://www.chowhound.com/topics/344014

                      1. Kent Wang Dec 9, 2006 10:53 AM

                        Both times that I have been to Kreuz's this year the brisket has been terribly dry.

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                          Greg Spence Dec 8, 2006 11:16 PM

                          Sigh. As a lifelong Kreuz man, it pains me to hear confirmation of what I've recently experienced at Kreuz as well. I've also been disappointed in the texture (tough) of the sausage since they've begun the heretical process of cooking it in an oven. The pork chops are still great but Smitty's has had better brisket in my recent visits. I still think your best odds for great brisket at either place is between 11:00 and 11:30. As for Black's, I'm just not a fan.

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                            joedontexan Jun 25, 2009 06:03 PM

                            Blacks is a total joke. They get all this national news about being the oldest continuous bbq joint in Texas and they just throw out greasy horrible brisket. resting on their laurels I wont be back.

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