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Dec 8, 2006 03:39 PM

Most Controversial DC Food Opinion

Inspired by a raging debate on the Boston board, what are some of your controversial DC food opinion?

I'll start: Ben's Chili Bowl-historic, but bad food.

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    1. 2 Amy's pizza isn't that great.

      You can get a tasty breakfast at Mcdonalds.

      Small mom-and-pop coffee places can make worse coffee than Starbucks.

      Jaleo and Zatinya are boring and overpriced.

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      1. I understand Neapolitan style pizza just fine, having worked in several pizzerias over the years. The three times I've been to 2Amys the crust has been excessively burnt, the sauce flavorless, the service sub par, and the atmosphere deafening.

        1. re: monkeyrotica

          you had bad service at 2 amys? I've been to 2 amys for countless meals on every day of the week at various times. I've never had anything but superb service, and I usually recognize most of the wait staff from previous visits. As for the noise...well, yes, it is loud, but the noise is emanating from happy families enjoying good pizza and friends laughing together...i've engaged in both activities at this place. It's boisterous. You're eating pizza. Makes sense to me. The only substantial complaints I have regarding this restaurant is that they do not take reservations, and that they do not deliver.

            1. re: monkeyrotica

              I agree with the burnt crust complaint. I've never had a properly cooked pie at 2Amys. The crust should be charred, not burnt.

            2. re: monkeyrotica

              2 Amy's: agree to an extent. very good? yes. earthshattering/worth gushing over? not at all.

              McDonald's breakfast: An Egg McMuffin at dawn is one of my favorite things (see profile).

              Starbucks: maybe. my favorite coffee right now is form Corner Bakery, another evil chain. I really do like the starbucks christmas blend or holiday blend or whatever its called.

              Jaleo: I am always talking Jaleo down when people recommend it to visitors. It is an good tapas place in my opinion, but not really better than the decent tapas offerings that are in most major and many minor US cities now.

              Zaytinya: I'm not a big fan of the place, but everyone I know likes it and I always recommend it to visitors, who also like it. I just don't like the atmosphere really. I don't really think the food is too boring, I just don't like it much.

              1. re: monkeyrotica

                2 Amy's is the best slice in DC. Much better than the Italian Store in Arlington. Cant think of any other good spots personally although been known to hit up the old Jumbo Slices for a post 3 am slice.

                Zatinya I am definitely on your side. Jaleo is overpriced but still satisfying.

                As for McD's there is no better breakfast outside of Bojangle's

                1. re: DCtoNC

                  Have you had the post clubbing Adams Morgan slice? It was profiled on PBS once, and supposedly the slices are about 18" long.

                  1. re: Chownut

                    Indeed, I have never busted out the ruler but 18'' seem about right. Also a late night fav is Julia's Empanada's the chileno always hits the spot.

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                1. Spices has the best sushi in town.

                  The Monocle serves up a great steak.

                  Hard Times Cafe makes better Cincinnati chili than anybody in Cincinnati.

                  A.V. Ristorante Italiano is worth saving.

                  Breadline might as well be Au Bon Pain as far as I'm concerned.

                  I agree on Starbucks, and I don't get the Zaytinya/Jaleo cult either.

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                  1. re: Bill on Capitol Hill

                    >Hard Times Cafe makes better Cincinnati chili than anybody in >Cincinnati.

                    WHOA!!! I know this thread is all about controversial opinions, but I just can't let this one stand! :) Hard Times Cafe's "Cincinnati chili" is an abomination. I don't know *what* it is, but it ain't Cincinnati-style chili. They get it *all* wrong, from the consistency of the spaghetti to the spicing and granulation of the beef to the cheese on top. Dreadful. And so disappointing, as I really wanted it to be good - I really miss Cincinnati chili!

                    1. re: Bill on Capitol Hill

                      Re Spices, the kitchen takes a deserved beating from chowhounds and Asian food foodies, but the sushi bar is definitely underrated.

                      1. re: Jay

                        Re spices: I tried to get them to send me a half duck on the recommendation of this board. They bounced me over to nooshi because I am too far for delivery. Nooshi's "Peking" duck was an old roast duck and I was really disappointed.

                        I only have been to Hard Times once. It was 1 AM. At that hour, it was amazing?

                      2. re: Bill on Capitol Hill

                        I hope not to sound condescending, but no one who knows much about sushi would ever say that Spices has the "best sushi". This is less a dig at Spices and more a defense of establishments like Sushi Taro, Sushi-ko, Makoto and, most recently, Perry's (they have a fantastic new sushi chef there.) I have lived in Japan for an extended period of time and not only know about sushi, but have had it in some of Japan's most famous locations. Great sushi starts with the chefs' ability to select special fish for cut and freshness, and I do not believe that Spices places high regard on this step. I have personally eaten at Spices many times (it is the only delivery sushi in Adams Morgan) and while I have had some decent sushi from there, it should not even be mentioned with the places listed above. I hope that you will try one of these places and compare their sushi with Spices and, hopefully, see what a huge difference very fresh fish makes, and what truly great sushi is. Agree on A.V.'s though!

                        1. re: javasarah

                          Well, there's a reason I said this in the controversy thread. Let's just say I've been to Makoto and Sushi-Ko and Sushi Taro (and Kaz Sushi Bistro) with mixed results but I'm always happy at Spices.

                          The critics I read seem to be rather down on Taro of late. I haven't tried Perry's, but I've heard good things.

                      3. Paradiso Pizzeria and 2 Amy's make equally good (or bad) pizza.

                        Certain big-name Washington chefs could show up at their restaurant occassionally at dinner time.

                        There is great Japanese food other than sushi !

                        Corduroy just isn't that good and the ambiance is strictly hotel decor.

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                        1. re: Dakota Guy

                          Ah, c'mon, who do you think should be showing up more?