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Please help me to pick a dinner spot from this list in SF

I have been reading your board,SFweekly,SF magazine and SF gate for over a month now. I feel dizzy from reading so much :)
I have made reservations for Range and Kokkari and possibly maykadeh on christmas day. We are staying at hotel vitale and I need to find one more dinner spot that is a little diffrent and maybe more upscale from my other picks. I was considering the following:

Aziza- I talked to the hotel's concierge and he told me it would be a $20 cab ride. Other option taking the bus. Is it worth it?
Scott howard- I have read some mix reviews. Has any one been there lately?
Perbacco-I read some good reviews and it is close to our hotel.
Any other ideas?

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  1. Aziza and Perbacco are both great.

    If you have great Italian food where you live, Aziza might be a better choice. There's no good reason to take a taxi, the 38 bus will take you there.

    1. Great picks! I LOVE Aziza, though it's true that it's pretty far away from the Hotel Vitale. If Moraccon-influenced fine dining is something you're never going to find at home, I'd recommend splurging for the cab. However, it seems that other Hounds are unanimous in their praise of Perbacco, and it's certainly closer. I haven't been there yet, but due to the glowing praise on this site, it's at the top of my list for new restaurants to visit.

      Ame isn't too far from you, just up Mission street. We had an outstanding meal there. There's always Zuni cafe, which isn't close, but you could take the streetcar up Market street (which is cheap and fun).

      Have a great visit!

      1. yes, taking the bus (or a cab) to Aziza is worth it. It is a straight shot up Geary from Market so you are unlikely to get lost. Depending upon where you are from, you may not have anything similar where you live.

        I like both Range and Aziza MUCH better than Kokkari, FWIW. Btw, if you are concerned about transportation, Range is almost if not as far from Vitale as Aziza. It *is* closer to a BART station (about half way between 16th street and 24th st BART stations and a block or two west of Mission), but the neighborhood (especially around 16th St Station) is a bit gritty at night. So, if that doesn't bother you fine. If it does, your cab will cost almost as much as your cab to Aziza (or even as much). And, of the two, again depending upon where you are, Range is more likely to remind you of something you can get at home or elsewhere...

        Haven't been to Perbacco yet, but will be remedying that very soon. :-)

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        1. re: susancinsf

          I don't think there's anything similar to Aziza anywhere.

          1. re: Robert Lauriston

            Chambar in Vancouver reminded me of it somewhat. Not exactly, but certainly closer than anything I've encountered elsewhere. And I wouldn't be surprised if there is something similar in Paris...but in the United States, no, I agree: I don't think there really is an equivalent to Aziza. (and if there is, please let me know Hounds!)

        2. out of curiousity: just checked mapquest: Range is about a mile closer. However, depending upon traffic and route chosen by the cabbie, it could theoretically take as long or longer...I wouldnt count on much less than a $20 cab ride for that one either.

          If you take BART it is about a six block walk from either station to Range.

          1. Well, should I drop Range in a favor of Aziza? We only have three nights and one is christmas(I wish one of this places was open on christmas). I love to try Perbacco for one night, so that leaves me with one night. I guess I should go for Aziza. We live in OC and go to LA for decent food.

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            1. re: mrsjoujou

              You can get food more or less simiar to Range's in LA at places such as Campanile or AOC.

              Perbacco has dishes from the Piemonte, Liguria, and Veneto regions, don't know if you have those in LA.

              1. re: mrsjoujou

                most of my eating in LA lately has been downscale, not upscale or midrange, but I'd say yes, if you have to choose, choose Aziza. It's not a bad choice either way, however.

                One other factor: the portions are bigger at Aziza, and they have a popular tasting menu (though I think the tasting menu is too much food, personally).

                1. re: susancinsf

                  Your picks are good. I work at First and Market and take cabs to dinner quite often and can say that Range is substantially closer to Vitale than Aziza. Cab to Range from Vitale would probably be 10 dollars +/- and cab to Aziza $20. Perbacco would be a good choice given your considerations.