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spirit7125 Dec 4, 2006 07:08 PM

I am traveling to NYC with a jeans/t-shirts crowd that would enjoy the "floor show" at a place like H&H rather than choosing a restaurant based on food/ambiance. I am desperately trying to find some places that are jeans-friendly, unfussy, large portions (steak a plus), good drinks, and decent prices. We are staying at the Sheraton New York near times square. One place that was mentioned to me was Divine Tapas. Any others?

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    88GK RE: spirit7125 Dec 4, 2006 07:43 PM

    well for starters and within your parameters how about Rub or Blue Smoke.

    1. wleatherette RE: spirit7125 Dec 4, 2006 07:52 PM

      does h-n-h serve food? i thought it was liquor only. the old homestead steakhouse is nearby (and delicious), so if your companions are hellbent on going there then you could do so after dinner.

      1. Cheese Boy RE: spirit7125 Dec 4, 2006 08:48 PM

        New York steakhouses are expensive. I wouldn't call their prices 'decent' unless they were to cut them in half. You'll be in the meatpacking district if you decide on H&H. There's two decent places you might want to check out [for steak].

        (1) http://www.franksnyc.com/ ... in the ... http://www.chelseamarket.com/ or,

        (2) http://www.theoldhomesteadsteakhouse....
        Go with their signature steak if you enjoy that cut -- Gotham's Rib Steak. Pass on the thinly cut, IMO violated, potato sticks. Ugh. I do enjoy their garlic bread. Some refer to it as "jenga-bread". You'll see why.

        Go to H&H afterwards for a drink. They proof everybody! If you're as old as a T-Rex they still want to see your ID. They like to pry I suppose -- to see where you hail from, etc.

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          JoanN RE: Cheese Boy Dec 4, 2006 08:57 PM

          Franks? Loved it in it's previous two (or is that now three?) incarnations, but was severely disappointed last time there. It was about a year ago now, so maybe it's improved. But IMHO there's far better places for the buck. Keen's Bar, for example. And much closer to TS.

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            Cheese Boy RE: JoanN Dec 4, 2006 09:04 PM

            I don't like Frank's, but it's very close to H&H. That's why it was recommended.
            I'll take Keen's over them any day. ... http://www.keens.com/

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              spirit7125 RE: Cheese Boy Dec 5, 2006 12:40 PM

              We went to Keen's last time and it was absolutely delicious. Just want to try a different place.

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          lisette RE: spirit7125 Dec 4, 2006 10:00 PM

          A different approach might be a churrascaria type place. All you can eat different grilled meats. Usually a huge buffet salad bar, appetizers, vegetables, etc.

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            spirit7125 RE: lisette Dec 5, 2006 12:41 PM

            That sounds great..any names?

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              lisette RE: spirit7125 Dec 5, 2006 01:27 PM

              Plataforma is the best known.
              http://churrascariaplataforma.com/

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                Bob Martinez RE: lisette Dec 5, 2006 02:31 PM

                I like Plataforma fine but the OP mentioned "decent prices." It will run them $52 per person before drinks, tax, and tip.

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                  lisette RE: Bob Martinez Dec 5, 2006 02:33 PM

                  I guess everyone's version of "decent" is different. It sounded like an all-you-can-eat carnivore's delight would fit their bill.

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            jesse RE: spirit7125 Dec 4, 2006 10:05 PM

            Hogs and Heffers doesn't offer food. If you're going there for a drink, eat in the neighborhood and then go afterward for drinks.

            Divine Bar (which I believe you are referring to) offers small portions at high prices. In other words, it's probably not a great choice.

            You're coming in from out of town. You can do the steakhouse route, going to a more casual steakhouse like Keen's (especially in the previously mentioned bar room, where prices are a bit calmer) or head to the Palm or Palm 2 or Sparks. All of these will be expensive, but you can somewhat comfortably (more at the Palm than Sparks) wear jeans. Another thought might be the wine dinner at Cite, offering unlimited wine and champagne with a three course meal, where your party could get sufficiently drunk while eating a pretty good meal.

            Classic old NYC standbys (and I'm sure there are plenty of naysayers) include the Spanish style restaurants, i.e. Sevilla, Francisco's Centro Vasco, La Paella, etc. where you can eat decently well for moderate sums, Tony DiNapoli, which is a tourist trap in Times Square but offers solid red-sauce Italian food, or asian fusion at Ruby Foos or something similar. Not the best eating in NYC by far, but all solid offerings where the focal point of the evening isn't eating and engaging in a discourse on the offerings.

            Cheap ehtnic options abound, including the 9th Avenue Thai outposts..

            Finally, NY has some pretty good pizza and bar food options. Depending on the size of the group you might want to call ahead, but off the top of my head I can think of Reservoir, Pete's Ale House, Old Towne Bar, etc..

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              spirit7125 RE: jesse Dec 5, 2006 01:03 PM

              I think I like the menu at Francisco's Centro Vasco the best. Thanks for the suggestions.

            2. NAtiveNewYorker RE: spirit7125 Dec 4, 2006 10:05 PM

              Do both. There's a BBQ place on 9th Ave and 13th Street (Hog Pit?) then walk a block to H&H for drinks only.

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                Cheese Boy RE: NAtiveNewYorker Dec 4, 2006 10:27 PM

                OMG, I peered into the kitchen of the Hog Pit once and realized never to order food there. Ever. Their kitchen is the size of a walk-in closet and dirty. Just a caveat. Go there for drinks and tunes. They have a pool table in the back. Yes I know the five second rule, etc.

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                  spirit7125 RE: Cheese Boy Dec 5, 2006 12:50 PM

                  I have worked in many kitchens....I like CLEAN. Thanks for the post.

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                surfer dude RE: spirit7125 Dec 4, 2006 11:37 PM

                Carmine's is an Italian place with large portions right near your hotel. For excellent barbecue, you can't beat Blue Smoke (as was mentioned above), which near Union Square (not Times Square).

                1. jenniebnyc RE: spirit7125 Dec 4, 2006 11:46 PM

                  this is my rec.........

                  http://mangiaebevirestaurant.com

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                    spirit7125 RE: jenniebnyc Dec 5, 2006 12:46 PM

                    This looks perfect..good prices for homemade pasta..thanks!

                  2. tamasha RE: spirit7125 Dec 5, 2006 01:06 AM

                    Mangia e Bevi is the worst place ever! I know the OP said jeans/tshirt, but this place is bachelorette HELL. Unless, of course, you enjoy it when the waiters break out the tambourines every five minutes during your meal. Strangely enough, the pizza I had was quite delicious.

                    1. jenniebnyc RE: spirit7125 Dec 5, 2006 01:09 AM

                      poster specifically asked for a "floor show"
                      jeans and t-shirt folks from out of town will probably enjoy

                      the one time i went i thought the food was very average, but not the WORST PLACE EVER

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                        mrnyc RE: spirit7125 Dec 5, 2006 01:36 AM

                        for food i'd go to FRANKS with this crew. if you dont eat too late, make sure you check out the chelsea market while you're in there so you get something out of it too.

                        not about food but here's a tip -- after 'hogs and heifers' you can go to 'red rock west' a short walk away on 10th ave at 16th st for more of the same schtick. alternatively, there is a decent untrendy pub called the 'brass monkey' very close by to h&h on little west 12th st near the westside highway.

                        have fun --- or should i say endure?

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                          eeee RE: spirit7125 Dec 5, 2006 12:43 PM

                          Why not head to the East Village? You can get something steaky at, say, Buenos Aires, or Carne Vale, then head to Coyote Ugly for your fix of ladies dancing on the bar.

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                            spirit7125 RE: spirit7125 Dec 5, 2006 01:05 PM

                            Thank you all for the suggestions. I will run them by my friends and hopefully we can find some common ground.

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