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  <id>346487</id>
  <title>Baking soda tenderizer discovery</title>
  <published_at>Tue Nov 28 23:11:50 -0800 2006</published_at>
  <post_count>8</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>31</id>
    <name>Home Cooking</name>
  </board>
  <posts>
    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>2053949</id>
        <content>So last week I was preparing a beef vegetable stew and neglected it on the stove.  When I returned, the meat had turned unbelievably tough... but then, I remembered my Chinese aunties using baking soda to tenderize their beef broccoli, so I dumped a tbsp of baking soda in, just to see what happened.  Voila!  Incredible.  From hard lumps of cardboard to succulent, thready mouthfuls of beefy goodness.  And the baking soda didn't change the quasi-beef bourguignone/red wine flavor of the broth, either. Anyone ever try this, or know why it works?</content>
        <published_at>Tue Nov 28 23:11:50 -0800 2006</published_at>
        <parent_id></parent_id>
        <user>
          <id>40422</id>
          <name>jbeaux</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2054063</id>
      <content>My guess is because Baking soda is basic and bases have a tendency to uncoil protein strands...this un-coiling may cause the overcooked/coiled protiens to disengage themselves, thus tenderize...The same reason you can't put bleach on a wool sweater, as the threads will uncoil and unthread themselves.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 28 23:51:05 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>2053949</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>18608</id>
        <name>sixelagogo</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2054096</id>
      <content>I haven't tried using baking soda, but I just learned the trick of "velveting" meat before stir frying or grilling it.  Holy smokes - what a difference!!  The meat is soooo soft, tender and juicy.  

I have done this process with chicken, but haven't tried it with beef yet.  

I think I'll tuck your little secret away for future use as well, though.  I've made a few meat dishes in the crockpot that had seen better days!!  Thanks for the tip  ;-)</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 29 00:00:54 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>2053949</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>43654</id>
        <name>BabyBee</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2054873</id>
      <content>velveting before GRILLING??? that's a new one on me!  you mean, tossing w flour and sauteeing first before grilling?</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 29 06:57:44 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>2054096</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10110</id>
        <name>opinionatedchef</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2054997</id>
      <content>Ooooooops!  Sorry!!

I just re-read my post - not grilling, I did mean to say "sauteeing".  I use the velveting technique before i stir fry or saute the meat, usually for a Chinese recipe.

Thanks  ;-)</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 29 11:56:08 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>2054873</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>43654</id>
        <name>BabyBee</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>2056760</id>
      <content>"Velveting"?  Can you tell me how to do this?  Is this why the beef at my favorite Chinese restaurant, although stir fried, still has such a nice softness?</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 29 22:53:38 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>2054997</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11388</id>
        <name>Marsha</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>2057033</id>
      <content>You betcha!!  I have been experimenting with chinese cuisine at home and have been totally frustrated that my meat always curls up and no matter how thin I think I slice it, it never has the consistency of the meat at the chinese restaurant.

SO ... here's the secret I was turned on to by the wonderful cooks/chefs from the recipezaar forum:

http://www.themediadrome.com/content/articles/food_articles/skillset_velveting.htm

It's really not that difficult - give it a try!!</content>
      <published_at>Thu Nov 30 00:34:50 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>2056760</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>43654</id>
        <name>BabyBee</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2056297</id>
      <content>Check the sodium content of Baking Soda (bicarbonate of Sodium) before adding such a large amount to a dish.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 29 20:30:38 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>2053949</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10838</id>
        <name>Fleur</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2058895</id>
      <content>huh, thanks Fleur.  It never occured to me to check.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Nov 30 18:13:51 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>2056297</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>40422</id>
        <name>jbeaux</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
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