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"French Medium Rare" ? [Split from steakhouse thread on L.a. board]

swarttav Nov 24, 2006 07:20 PM

Enlighten me as to "French Medium Rare" is, please.

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    kdoc RE: swarttav Nov 24, 2006 08:34 PM

    French MR (or "a point") is more rare than the traditional "English" MR and might even be considered just rare by our typical standards. French rare is really "bloody" as evidenced by the word for it, "saignant" . Maybe it's just easier to describe how you want your steak to look like.

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    1. re: kdoc
      Eat_Nopal RE: kdoc Nov 24, 2006 10:36 PM

      Yeah... I would say its between what I would consider Rare (just seared) & what a decent restaurant typically considers Medium Rare

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        ilikefood RE: kdoc Nov 25, 2006 12:05 AM

        Eat Nopal- Your post made me think:
        1. So if French MR is rare by our standards, why not just ask for rare and if you prefer really "bloody" rare ask for French rare?
        2. I would luv to have every CHound eating at a steakhouse in the next few weeks ask the server if they know what "French" preceding the doneness means and report back on how well the steakhouses know their cooked meat (so to speak).

        1. re: ilikefood
          Eat_Nopal RE: ilikefood Nov 25, 2006 04:57 PM

          I have found Rare to be a very ambigous term in the U.S... as few people ask for their beef that way. The waiter is usually confused... & I have even had chef's come out & ask me what I want. Asking for just bloody doesn't help either.

          I have found that asking for French Medium Rare... I typically get it right at contemporary high-end, meat specializing restaurants... but places like Ruth Chris', or old school meat houses like Mortons or Palm's never seem to get it.

      2. JK Grence the Cosmic Jester RE: swarttav Nov 25, 2006 07:18 PM

        from what I remember hearing someone tell me about French doneness, French rare is to have the chef hold it up to the grill just long enough for the steak to get nervous, a French medium is an American medium rare, and French well done is American medium.

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        1. re: JK Grence the Cosmic Jester
          Sherri RE: JK Grence the Cosmic Jester Nov 25, 2006 08:57 PM

          A good vet could bring it back!

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