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Pizza Slices

MichaelG Nov 21, 2006 01:46 PM

Hi, I'm looking for the best slices in Manhattan. I've read all about the great coal oven places in Manhattan and Brooklyn, but most seem to be whole pie sit-down restaurants.

Where are your favorite places to walk in and get a classic NYC slice -- thin, and dripping with cheese, so you gotta fold it?

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    Hugh DeMann Dec 16, 2006 07:54 PM

    Chompchomp - glad you liked it!
    Didn't know there was another one at 23rd and 8th.

    1. chompchomp Dec 14, 2006 09:19 PM

      the slices at Pizza 33 on 23rd at 8th are deeeelicious!

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        Hugh DeMann Dec 4, 2006 11:55 PM

        Best slice in Manhattan: Pizza 33 (margharita slice)

        Most overrated: Two boots (not even pizza, really).

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          Tony L Nov 30, 2006 08:03 PM

          Frank's on 23rd near Lex.

          1. bigjeff Nov 30, 2006 12:56 AM

            if you want the cheese drip with the extra cheese, I'd recommend maffei's, its on west 22nd street and 6th avenue. their slice is definitely sloppy but they have hot sauce there and you definitely need to do the pizza-fold-lean in order to not get oil on your shoes when you eat it standing up. it's not a classy slice and in fact, their grandma, for the same price, is a great slice of pizza, but I'd check it out. it's a humble place, family-owned and very nice people there.

            as for joe's, I've had two burnt slices there before on separate occasions and that totally turned me off to it. but look into this week's timeout, as rachael333 mentioned, I think they did all the work for you:


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            1. re: bigjeff
              a_and_w Dec 4, 2006 06:43 PM

              If you like the grandma slice at Maffei, check out the version at Rocco's on 7th Ave at 20th St. Quite similar with an even more flavorful sauce, imo.

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              Johnleah Nov 30, 2006 12:44 AM

              OOPS...I see now that Vinnie's is gone.

              1. SunnysideUp Nov 29, 2006 08:50 PM

                New York Pizza Suprema, on 8th and 31st, for classic slice-shop style, NON-wood/coal/brick/gourmet/etc, pizza. Dismal location adds to the experience. It's what you're looking for.

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                  NAtiveNewYorker Nov 29, 2006 08:54 PM

                  Dissent. I didn't like this slice at all (but I can't remember why...sorry).

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                    Johnleah Nov 30, 2006 12:42 AM

                    Vinnie's on 73rd and Amsterdam.

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                  chalkman Nov 29, 2006 08:44 PM

                  I second ... Two Boots, Lower East Side. Great toppings and a very tasty granular crust.

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                  1. re: chalkman
                    a_and_w Nov 29, 2006 09:01 PM

                    I like Two Boots a lot, but it's stretching the definition of "pizza" imo. BTW, I think that's cornstarch you're tasting in the crust...

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                      Ike Dec 16, 2006 08:29 PM

                      I believe that's cornmeal flour, not cornstarch. But whatever it is, it imparts a great, unique flavor to the crust IMO. However, many people think it's total sacrilege. (Also, the slight spiciness to the sauce turns off a lot of people too.) To each their own... clearly there are enough Two Boots partisans like me, b/c there's never a shortage of customers.

                      I haven't tried a ton of diff. places but I agree with the poster named Thievery that Pomodoro (spring & mulberry) is good. I'll have to try DeMarco's next.

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                    brokeinEV Nov 29, 2006 06:44 PM

                    i love the plain slice at pizzaninni on st marks and 2nd.

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                      rachael333 Nov 29, 2006 06:35 PM

                      Time Out this week is all about Pizza....

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                        knarlene Nov 29, 2006 05:34 PM

                        In Chelsea,
                        Crispy Pan Pizza - 17th/7th
                        is very good...

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                          centrejack Nov 29, 2006 02:17 PM

                          there is a new place in my hood that is not traditional New York style but is really really good. It is calle Krunch - it is on 2nd Avenue btween 51st and 52nd. Try the pollo d'alba, the bianchi, and the salsiccia.

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                            billyboy Nov 28, 2006 07:04 PM

                            I've seen piza with arugula on top that hadn't been washed. Big grains of sand dotted the leaves. And the worst of all time, I had a pizza where the maker's Lee Press-On Nail had fallen onto the pizza and I didn't know it until I bit into it. It had a crescent moon and stars on it.

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                              NAtiveNewYorker Nov 28, 2006 07:19 PM


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                              marye Nov 28, 2006 01:03 PM

                              Ultimate Pizza 57th and 1st

                              1. csw Nov 28, 2006 02:39 AM

                                Lucky aren't we spoiled. SO many fine pizza places. I travel alot and it is so hard to find a decent pizza place outside of nyc. Outside, Dominos is as good as it gets. Coming home, I am just so greatful enough for my neighborhoods tiny pizza shop. If you want INEDIBLE I know quite a handful of places in other states serving what seems to be frozen slices from your supermarket. This i kid not. JOES/RAYS/BRAVO..ETC might be overrated or exxagerated but they are certainly edible. Nobody has seen the pizzas I've seen.

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                                  billyboy Nov 28, 2006 02:28 AM

                                  I've found a few good slices at Joe's, but I'll only get the fresh mozzarella slice. I think all the other slices there are terrible. Bleecker Street Pizza makes some good slices. The Grandma slice and the fresh mozz is pretty good. I've never had a good slice at Ray's except for the one on Prince Street which was a bit oily, but still pretty good. Adrienne's is my new favorite and I could probably eat a whole pie if I put my mind to it. the square pies are amazing. Although, I had them deliver 2x and on the third time I called, they said they wouldn't deliver "all the way" to Fulton Street. Very weird. There is a really good place that makes an amazing Sicilian slice in Astoria/L.I.C. called Twins Pizza. They don't do subs, calzones, just pizza. Chewy, crunchy on the edges, and the cheese is browned on top. I'd usually get a couple for lunch when I worked over there.

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                                    surly Nov 22, 2006 09:12 AM

                                    l'asso (mott st @ kenmare st) in nolita. somewhat newish place (has been open about 2 years or so); it doesn't look they'd serve slices based on the decor, but yeah, they do. i'm pretty sure their oven is wood-fired.

                                    as for joe's, i'm really starting to dislike that place more and more. i agree that their quality has taken a turn for the worse, and it's totally not worth going during less busy times, as their slices that have been been sitting around and reheated are particularly mediocre.

                                    the pizzas at joe's are better when the owner himself makes them (and more importantly, mans the oven). i still go here once in a while when it's late and i'm hungry, but i definitely don't enjoy this place the way i used to back in high school and college.

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                                    1. re: surly
                                      Yaxpac Nov 22, 2006 02:13 PM

                                      I have not been to Joe's since it moved/closed the original. that is tough news to hear.

                                      I would like to add that the Pizza Box around the corner from Joe's on Bleecker street also makes a fine slice.

                                      Also, Little Italy Pizza near Grand Central makes a very good slice too.

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                                        mimolette Nov 29, 2006 04:11 AM

                                        I tried Joe's several times. I tried to like it, I wanted to like it, but I was disappointed every single time and decided it is just not for me.

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                                          a_and_w Nov 29, 2006 05:30 PM

                                          Yes, me too, sadly. I wanted to like Joe's but...

                                          Prefer DeMarco's and Pizza Box for slices in the Village...

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                                            mimolette Nov 30, 2006 06:30 AM

                                            DeMarco's really is very very flavorful, I eat several slices a week there. Sometimes the crust can be underdone resulting in a very strange texture though. Just ask them to make sure it is crisp. I think they add a little cheese to the sauce itself and the crust probably has a bit of olive oil as well. It definitely has a lot of personality.

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                                              NAtiveNewYorker Nov 30, 2006 12:40 PM

                                              It really is good (finally...after a year of mis-steps). I know others disagree, but I recommend it for those who haven't been yet.

                                              Should have been in Time Out this week.

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                                                Spoony Bard Dec 4, 2006 02:20 AM

                                                Finally made it to DeMarco's. Thanks to you guys above, I've discovered flavors not found this side of the East River on my Sicilian with broccoli rabe slice, topped with some of the grated grana padano from the bowl on the countertop. Tasted it side-by-side with a regular slice from Joe's. The Joe's slice was good, particularly the cheese, but hardly great, and paled in comparison.

                                                DeMarco's ain't Dom's, but it's a lot closer than Avenue J, and stands up on its own.

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                                                  guttergourmet Dec 4, 2006 01:44 PM

                                                  Finally-DeMarco's (and I) are vindicated. I stop there at least once a week and more often than not am rewarded. I desperately wanted to go back to DiFara's this weekend after the Time Out piece but couldn't find the time. As I've said many times on this board before, 80% of perfection is still pretty damn good.

                                              2. re: mimolette
                                                a_and_w Dec 4, 2006 06:41 PM

                                                mim, I quite agree. I usually take out then crisp up the square in a frying pan.

                                        2. jenniebnyc Nov 22, 2006 01:42 AM

                                          Ultimate Pizza on 57th and First

                                          1. sing me a bar Nov 21, 2006 11:22 PM

                                            Joe's has gone totally lame and inedible. At least downtown, Bleecker St. Pizza on 7th Ave is the call. It was hard making the change after years of loyalty to Joe's, but BSP is putting out a much better slice. Also the vibe at Joe's has become less friendly, as they rush to serve dry (long ago cooked) pie to out-of-towners.

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                                            1. re: sing me a bar
                                              mimolette Nov 22, 2006 03:50 AM

                                              I am glad I am not the only person who can't stand Joe's.

                                            2. thievery Nov 21, 2006 08:23 PM

                                              also... though not necess standard, plain slices...

                                              * vodka slice at pomodoro's in lil italy (spring & mulberry)
                                              * regular slice at rosario's in LES (orchard & stanton)
                                              * grandma's slice (square) at maffei (22nd & 6th ave)
                                              * demarco's regular slice (hit or miss, but when you get a good batch... it's pretty damn good)... houston & thompson.

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                                              1. re: thievery
                                                bigjeff Nov 30, 2006 12:57 AM

                                                big up to maffei's, yes, and also big up to rosario's, definitely a cheap gem in the late night category of the LES

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                                                  celeriac Nov 30, 2006 08:44 PM

                                                  thirded on rosarios--doing the damn thing.

                                              2. jon Nov 21, 2006 08:16 PM

                                                i'll throw in the slices at adrienne's on stone street. now that they moved all the outdoor tables inside they have slices. get the pepperoni!

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                                                  Fallon Nov 21, 2006 08:23 PM

                                                  I used to work downtown & once a week would sneak over to adrienne's & get one of their wonderful rectangular slices... Good stuff...Too bad my office moved to midtown...

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                                                  rufustfirefly Nov 21, 2006 08:11 PM

                                                  Oh, and I would add Two Boots (various locations) for a great slice with more elaborate toppings.

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                                                    rfelicello Dec 4, 2006 06:57 PM

                                                    I have to disagree re: Two Boots. Their pizza is vile, even after a couple of drinks.

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                                                    rufustfirefly Nov 21, 2006 08:06 PM

                                                    I've been to a few of these places--Joe's, Mimma's, Sal and Carmines. I would recommend the overlooked Bleeker Street Pizza (Corner of Bleeker and 7th) over all of them. Make sure to order the "Nonna Maria."

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                                                      Fallon Nov 21, 2006 07:25 PM

                                                      Mimma's on 84th & 2nd Ave... Get a pepperoni slice from a pie that has been sitting a little while not one that just came out & have them reheat it for you. The crust stays crunchy & the topping oozes. My personal fave...

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                                                        Cpalms Nov 21, 2006 08:07 PM

                                                        the poster above that recommended the Ray's on 83rd and Columbus may do need to do a little more homework....that place defines what is wrong with the tradional NY slice, it is terrible. It is is not even the best slice within a few blocks of there. Garlic bob's is far superior.

                                                        I had my first slice of Joe's since they moved the other night after a few cocktails and damn it hit the spot!.....if it has to be a slice on the UWS sal and carmines is the only way to go...

                                                        1. re: Cpalms
                                                          Fallon Nov 21, 2006 08:13 PM

                                                          I live on the UWS & agree the Ray's on Columbus is pretty bad. A new place recently opened up on B'way in the upper 70's I think called Abadanno's or Abato's or something like that-I haven't been yet but will check it out soon.
                                                          Haven't tried Sal & Carmines so I need to add that to my list as well. The other Ray's on Amsterdam & 82nd closed down...

                                                          1. re: Fallon
                                                            harrison Nov 21, 2006 08:25 PM

                                                            It's Abatinos - part of the mini chain including 1 location in the old Joe's. Average at best.

                                                            I haven't been to Sal and Carmine's lately but recent posts indicate major downhill alert.

                                                            I think Joe's is still a fine slice.

                                                          2. re: Cpalms
                                                            NAtiveNewYorker Nov 21, 2006 09:02 PM

                                                            I've done my homework. I eat slices side by side and rank them (see above post).

                                                            I guess we have different tastes. (For example, I HATE Garlic Bob's).

                                                          3. re: Fallon
                                                            NAtiveNewYorker Nov 21, 2006 09:00 PM

                                                            You're thinking of *Mimi's* on *Lex* and 84th. GREAT slice, and it has been since they were 1/3 their size back in 1977.

                                                            1. re: NAtiveNewYorker
                                                              Fallon Nov 21, 2006 09:07 PM

                                                              Native: I know Mimi's on Lex & 80 something as well but I am referring to Mimma's on 2nd Ave & 84th right on the corner. The first few times I ate there I thought it was called Momma's... Try the pepperoni slice that has been reheated (for the crunch)... good stuff...

                                                              1. re: Fallon
                                                                NAtiveNewYorker Nov 21, 2006 09:10 PM

                                                                Yes. My mistake. Mimma's. (The post-Dorrian's drunken pizza place.) Been there forever.

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                                                            haleyjen Nov 21, 2006 06:11 PM

                                                            Sal and Carmines on 101 and B'way. Majestic on Cortlandt.

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                                                              DaveS Nov 21, 2006 06:01 PM

                                                              When I worked downtown I frequented Little Italy Pizza on Park Place. I thought it was a pretty good slice.

                                                              1. NAtiveNewYorker Nov 21, 2006 04:39 PM

                                                                And here's a trick: go during a busy time when the pizza hasn't sat around and order a slice "cold...not heated"

                                                                It will be warm enough but not scalding hot.

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                                                                  gtmajors Nov 21, 2006 04:24 PM

                                                                  Nino's on 3rd ave between 91st & 92nd street in bay ridge Brooklyn.

                                                                  eggplant slice if you like a bready slice & grandma's for thin crust
                                                                  great pizza....& they sell it by the slice!


                                                                  1. Peter Cuce Nov 21, 2006 04:24 PM

                                                                    Here's a few hundred things to read first:

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                                                                      Michael Ambrosio Nov 21, 2006 04:20 PM

                                                                      Just wanted to agree about Joe's on Bleecker.

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                                                                        chowNYC Nov 21, 2006 04:16 PM

                                                                        I love Pizza 33 at 33rd and 3rd Avenue. Great slices with a crispy crust, soft cheese, a little oily (cheese has oils, after all) and cracker-crisp crust. Mmmm - now I want one.

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                                                                          lvecch Nov 21, 2006 04:16 PM

                                                                          I like the plain slices at Bella Napoli, on Madison and 31st.

                                                                          1. jakew8 Nov 21, 2006 03:10 PM

                                                                            There are several Bravo! pizza places around. They're pretty good for standard slices. My only complaint is that sometimes the bottom crust gets too cooked (read: burned) when they re-heat the slices in the oven. If you can, get a slice off a pie right out of the oven so that it won't need to be put back in.

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                                                                              lvecch Nov 21, 2006 04:13 PM

                                                                              I haven't been there in a while, but the Bravo's on Park (20th/21st) used to have a fresh mozarella slice that's twice the price of the regular slice, but really excellent.

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                                                                                Scott V Nov 21, 2006 08:51 PM

                                                                                Bravo on Park isn't bad, but not really New York style (thick crust), and not a slice to go out of your way for.

                                                                                The Bravo on 5th is terrible. Hard to believe they are related.

                                                                              2. NAtiveNewYorker Nov 21, 2006 01:58 PM

                                                                                You can get a coal over slice at Patsy's in Easy Harlem. Pizza documentaries claim that they in fact invented the slice (in a era when the first few NY pizzerias refused to cut up their creations).

                                                                                I have three contraversial recs for you:

                                                                                1. Rays on Columbus and 83rd: typical NY slice
                                                                                2. DeMarco's: very interesting and unique slice
                                                                                3. Rivoli II on Husdon and Christopher is great too

                                                                                And one contraversial statement:

                                                                                Aside from a few standout slices, they're mostly all the same.

                                                                                And finally: search this site a bit more. This subject comes up about every week. (And DON'T ask for the best cheeseburger in NYC. That comes up enough already.)

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                                                                                  randumbposter Nov 21, 2006 07:32 PM

                                                                                  no rays !!!! Rays assures you a nasty slice.

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                                                                                    prunefeet Nov 21, 2006 08:15 PM

                                                                                    Don't forget though, that the Ray's are not connected. They are all trading on the raging success of Ray's famous on 11th street, back in the 70s. Oops, my age is showing.

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                                                                                      jakew8 Nov 21, 2006 08:36 PM

                                                                                      Is that the Ray's Famous on 11th and 6th?

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                                                                                        NAtiveNewYorker Nov 21, 2006 08:54 PM

                                                                                        No. It's some random Ray's (the name is not trademarked) that has a terrific plain slice, in my opinion. I found it better than any other UWS slice (Sal & C., Francesca's, Rigoletto, Traviata, etc.) Reminded me of old NYC slices, the crust especially.

                                                                                        We all have different tastes I guess. (My pizza slice tasting was side by side with Sal & C. Drove around and collected various slices on the UWS. Then tried them side by side in the car. Sal & C. was not that good too me. V&T did well.)

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                                                                                  Yaxpac Nov 21, 2006 01:50 PM

                                                                                  Joe's on Bleecker is one of my favorites...

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                                                                                    lvecch Nov 21, 2006 04:15 PM

                                                                                    The slices at Joe's seem to have changed since they moved to the middle of the block. This used to be a destination spot for me, but no more.

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