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telepan or eleven madison park?

lcast Nov 20, 2006 07:49 PM

need an "insider ny" restaurant to take foreign foodies... want amazing food, but also cool atmosphere.

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  1. Porthos RE: lcast Nov 20, 2006 08:03 PM

    I was debating the same question for my return visit to NY. I was wondering Cru vs Telepan vs EMP vs L'Atelier...or should I pass up the newcomers and just go back to Daniel? Not worried about atmosphere as much as who's offering the best food right now.

    Does anyone know if Daniel is still serving madelines after dessert?

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      RGR RE: Porthos Nov 20, 2006 08:17 PM

      Re: Madeleines. I haven't been to Daniel in ages, but Cafe Boulud definitely serves them with dessert. They are to die for!!

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        Porthos RE: RGR Nov 20, 2006 11:40 PM

        Agreed. Those madelines are worth the price of admission at Daniel. I didn't know Cafe Boulud started doing that also.

        I know RGR, you love EMP. How do you think it compares to Cru and Daniel?

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          RGR RE: Porthos Nov 21, 2006 03:29 PM

          Porthos, Cafe Boulud has always served the madeleines and, yes, they alone would be a reason to dine there except that, happily, the cuisine happens to be outstanding!

          I've only been to Daniel twice, once when it was in what is now Cafe Boulud's space and once in its current location. Since those experiences go back several years, I can't make a fair comparison to EMP. I haven't yet made it to Cru.

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      RGR RE: lcast Nov 20, 2006 08:06 PM

      I haven't been to Telepan, but Eleven Madison Park is one of my absolute favorites. In my estimation, it's one of the best NYC restaurants these days, and I wouldn't hesitate to take foreign foodies there. Chef Daniel Humm's cuisine is sensational, and the huge Art Deco space is gorgeous! If the latter fits your conception of "cool," then go for it!

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        fascfoo RE: lcast Nov 20, 2006 08:13 PM

        My vote is for EMP.

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          Bill L RE: lcast Nov 20, 2006 08:20 PM

          Ate at Telepan friday night. The meal was fine, if I lived in the neighborhood, I'm sure I'd return. EMP is a much more impressive space. Menu is a little fussy, but incredibly well prepared. It's probably going to set you back a little more than Telepan.

          1. ellenost RE: lcast Nov 20, 2006 08:52 PM

            My vote is for EMP. Great food, service and decor. Your foodie friends will be impressed.

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              Fielding RE: lcast Nov 20, 2006 09:33 PM

              They are very different experiences. EMP is fancier, has great food and treats its customers really well, whereas Telepan is more just about the food. Both places are great, so it really depends on the personalities of the people involved.

              OTOH, if you really want "cool", go to Nolita.

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                RCC RE: lcast Nov 20, 2006 11:33 PM

                We've been to both.

                Hands down, it's EMP for the great service and much better execution of dishes. EMP is pricier, but it's worth it.

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                  Mittenstate RE: lcast Dec 8, 2006 09:13 PM

                  I just went to Daniel a few months ago- yes to the madeleines, and of course it was a perfect dining experience. I've got to say, I think Telepan is outstanding. The pickled peach with the fois gras is a really nice combination, and I think that the tasting menu is a great price for the type of food you're getting. There's also a nice bar area, if you're not up for a full sit down meal. It reminded me of Blue Hill a little bit, if that's your thing you'll like this, I think.

                  1. seal RE: lcast Dec 9, 2006 12:49 AM

                    I've been to Daniel twice in the past few months (don't ask - my mother in law's favorite) and, of course, it is an excellent meal.

                    I've also been to EMP twice in the same time frame and am going back tomorrow for "brunch".

                    For sheer Wow factor I would vote for either one of them.

                    Telepan has great food, but less showiness.

                    I have yet to go to L'Atelier in nyc, but absolutely loved the place in vegas.

                    One other note - Daniel is one of the few places with better madeleines than Financier.

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                    1. re: seal
                      RGR RE: seal Dec 9, 2006 02:37 AM

                      Just to note that Cafe Boulud also ends the meal with a basket of seriously delicious madeleines.

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