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Andrea Strong losing credibility

dkstar1 Nov 20, 2006 03:25 PM

I can look past her openly discussed failed relationships in her reviews but when she suggests that Guinness is an English beer and that Klee, a new restaurant to open on 9th Avenue is "charming" - yet there was no way of knowing that a month ago (when she wrote the piece) because just this past week they were still setting up the drywall.

All I'm saying is if you want to take her word as true...be careful.
I've effectively unsubscribed.

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  1. skigirl RE: dkstar1 Nov 20, 2006 04:25 PM

    Good to know.

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      harrison RE: dkstar1 Nov 20, 2006 07:43 PM

      She clearly doesn't want to insult anyone...ever.

      Which do you think are the best ny food blogs out there these days?

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        Yaqo Homo RE: harrison Nov 21, 2006 05:55 PM

        She's not always nice.
        Maybe I look the other way because I find her kind of hot, but I believe she's savaged the occasional restaurant (and powerful restaurateur), most memorably Morimoto. I don't see her as entirely gutless.

      2. dkstar1 RE: dkstar1 Nov 20, 2006 07:57 PM

        I really like NYC Nosh. They do a great job. Obviously Clotilde of Chocolate and Zucchini. Not a blog, but Josh Ozersky is doing a good job over at Grub Street. Augieland has the best (food) budget of anyone I know, and really knows how to have a good time, takes good pics of the food and gets it live online quickly...but his writing isn't 100% my style - not to mention the too-silly "star rating" he includes. It's weird.

        I like Adam, but the Amateur Gourmet is, well, too amateur. I'm a bit jealous too I guess...being that I'd love to get a free truffle tasting dinner at Alain Ducasse...though I'd have the wherewithall to wear a jacket and tie. It's the Rachel Ray of blogs...sort of. You can't help but love it/hate it. And, as is the name, it's an amateur's take on food (i.e., no training/culinary school, nary a job in a restaurant as far as I can tell)

        For LA, I like The Delicious Life. Sarah's really cool. And a Full Belly is also very good for a take on the San Francisco/NYC scene.

        Anything Adam Kuban writes is usually worth reading and I think Frank Bruni is doing a terrific job as well.

        My blog, which doesn't do much lately (bigapplediningguide.com) is more of a journal for myself these days. Perhaps too straightforward to be a worthy blog to visit, but I like it. Of course, it doesn't even come close to any of the one's I mention above...even the one's I criticize.

        There are others I like too (Mona's Apple, Eat Girl Drink Woman, and a bunch of others I apologize in advance for not including).

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          a_and_w RE: dkstar1 Nov 20, 2006 09:20 PM

          Second NYC Nosh, which is a great resource.

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            BackyardChef RE: dkstar1 Nov 21, 2006 08:34 PM

            I love Mona's Apple, too....and Snack, The Food Section, and Clean Plate Club along with many of the others mentioned...and many more.

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              skigirl RE: BackyardChef Nov 21, 2006 10:32 PM

              This thread should be renamed "best ny food blogs." thanks! knew about many of these, but some other great stuff here for me to explore.

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              Caillerets RE: dkstar1 Dec 8, 2006 12:36 PM

              http://oad.typepad.com/ Is my favorite global blog. This guy has loads of resources and time.

            3. skigirl RE: dkstar1 Nov 20, 2006 08:16 PM

              Agree with much of the above. I also do like eater.com for restaurant related gossip (not food).

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                dkstar1 RE: skigirl Nov 20, 2006 09:15 PM

                absolutely. Eater.com and Laren Spirer's coverage at Gothamist are also excellent.

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                  Laren RE: dkstar1 Dec 21, 2006 08:11 PM

                  Aww, thanks!

              2. dkstar1 RE: dkstar1 Nov 20, 2006 09:24 PM

                A follow up...

                I emailed Andrea and told her about the Guinness post. Her response was that she agreed...but that that's what the menu said.

                Then why didn't she report on that? That, to me, is news. A restaurant calling itself the European Union shouldn't list what might be the most famous beer anywhere/ever - an IRISH stout at that, as an ENGLISH beer.

                If I reviewed a restaurant where Budweiser was listed accidentally as a Canadian beer on the menu, I'd make a note of it - or at least not ignore it as if it wasn't wrong in my review.

                Important? Am I going overboard? Is it poor journalism? Perhaps all of the above. I don't know.

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                  Robert Lauriston RE: dkstar1 Nov 20, 2006 09:27 PM

                  Where is the Guinness sold in the U.S. actually brewed these days?

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                    a_and_w RE: Robert Lauriston Nov 20, 2006 09:53 PM

                    Probably the US -- I'm pretty sure it's licensed for brewing internationally. Tastes different than the stuff I tried during a factory tour in Dublin (though that may be a function of setting, etc. influencing taste).

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                      dkstar1 RE: Robert Lauriston Nov 20, 2006 10:43 PM


                      Guinness is now also brewed in 35 countries around the world, but all these overseas brews must contain a flavoured extract brewed here at St. James's Gate. So the very special brewing skills of Arthur's brewery, remain at the heart of every one of the 10 million glasses of Guinness enjoyed every day across the world.

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                      skigirl RE: dkstar1 Nov 20, 2006 09:36 PM

                      It IS important. She's supposed to be a food journalist and not a restaurant or product publicist.

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                      dixieday2 RE: dkstar1 Nov 21, 2006 02:45 AM

                      Except that remember, since it's a blog she's doing, she's essentially a self-appointed journalist, without any editorial oversight or, in this case, editorial standards to uphold. I've found her style and tone to be really cloying, and I don't see her as trustworthy since she loves everything.

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                        jen kalb RE: dixieday2 Nov 21, 2006 03:53 AM

                        bloggers, like any other writer, can choose to be keep enough distance from their subjects to stay objective - Andrea Strong has been tight in their with the chefs and restauranteurs since day 1. Her priority has never been truth telling. what a waste.

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                        harrison RE: dkstar1 Nov 21, 2006 01:45 PM

                        I guess cookbook deals pay the bills...

                        1. jon RE: dkstar1 Nov 21, 2006 02:30 PM

                          one of my favorite nyc-centered food blogs is edlevineeats.com. i used to watch ed on tv all the time and he was probably the one food critic who inspired me to be food-obsessed because he was always going to some random city/neighborhood to find the best food. his blog is great too (although based on his recommendation i tried the del posto enoteca and i was not as impressed as he was). plus he's got a post about how he ordered every donut at the donutplant. that's awesome!

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                            ESNY RE: dkstar1 Dec 8, 2006 02:06 PM

                            I don't usually use Andrea Strong for the reviews of restaurants, more as a current events of what's opening, etc. Similar to the Off the Menu second page of the NY Times Dining Out section. Half the time I don't even read her long review at the bottom since i find it hard to believe that almost every item on every menu is orgasm inspiring.

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                              fatbuddha RE: dkstar1 Jan 9, 2007 10:36 PM

                              I find her reviews dull. I also happen to have met her personally and she is a social climbing dolt, but that's beside the point I suppose.

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                                chezlamere RE: dkstar1 Jan 10, 2007 03:22 AM

                                Has it's moments

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