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alternative to crisco shortening for pie crust

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Spike Nov 20, 2006 02:53 AM

Anyone know of an alternative to Crisco (and the partially hydrogenated fats it contains)-: that can be used to make a nice flaky pie crust?

  1. oakjoan Nov 20, 2006 02:54 AM

    In the Wednesday food edition of the NYT, there was an extensive article about pie crust, Crisco, leaf lard, butter, and suet. You should probably look it up. I think Crisco was low on her list of good crusts.

    I've never made pie crust with anything but butter so I'm no help.

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      MikeG Nov 20, 2006 03:17 AM

      Lard or butter, not too many options. Some people like oil crusts, I don't.

      Crisco has had a non-trans-fat version out for some time, now, too.

      1. Becca Porter Nov 20, 2006 03:33 AM

        Leaf Lard! No trans-fat and less saturated fat than butter. I do 2/3 butter to 1/3 leaf lard for sweet pastry. All lard for savory. You can't find a flakier crust either. I buy mine from Deitrich's.

        1. hotoynoodle Nov 20, 2006 05:17 AM

          i know crisco is easier to work with, but i've never been able to tolerate the coating in my mouth when i eat baked goods that use it. i prefer all butter, but confess i haven't experimented with leaf lard. that ny times article was illuminating. and tempting!

          1. skigirl Nov 20, 2006 02:27 PM

            Used a combo of leaf lard and plugra (high fat) butter on my crusts yesterday (1/3 leaf lard). They were so much more flavorful than other crusts I've tried -- and still flaky!

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              FlavoursGal Nov 20, 2006 06:22 PM

              Coconut oil (which is the same consistency as Crisco) is a perfect alternative. It contains 0 trans fats. Be sure to buy organic non-hydrogenated coconut oil (at Whole Foods and other natural foods stores). Do not refrigerate before using - it becomes rock hard under refrigeration.

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                Katie Nell Dec 6, 2006 01:13 PM

                How expensive is the coconut oil and what's the shelf life like?

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                  FlavoursGal Dec 7, 2006 01:09 AM

                  It's not cheap, but I can't recall exactly. It has an indefinite shelf life.

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                Elsie Dec 6, 2006 10:35 AM

                Found mention of this crisco alternative but havent tried, I bake a lot so I will be looking for it soon.
                Spectrum Organic Shortening, solid at room temp and made from palm oil.

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                  mark Dec 6, 2006 03:23 PM

                  my wife uses this in her baking for green grocers that don't allow crisco due to the trans fats. works great. in my wife's opinion, it outperforms crisco. she buys in bulk (30 lbs at a time), and it's reasonably priced in volume; don't know about smaller quantities. i've seen it at most of the green stores in my area.

                2. mizinformation Dec 6, 2006 02:19 PM

                  I used a combination of butter and Earth Balance brand shortening for my pies at Thanksgiving and the crusts came out great.
                  http://www.earthbalance.net/welcome.html

                  I found it at a local chain, but they probably carry it at whole foods/wild oats, etc. if not your regular grocer.

                  1. pikawicca Dec 7, 2006 01:16 AM

                    Try 50/50 non-transfat Crisco and butter. You get the flavor of the butter and the flakiness of the shortening. I usually cube and freeze the Crisco before using.

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                      k_d Dec 7, 2006 02:34 AM

                      Don't forget that in the supposed trade off with those "bad" trans-fats, you're getting more SATURATED fats, which were the bad guys in the 80s and 90s, supposedly causing all manner of havoc in people's arteries. The scientists are making us crazy, folks. I guess all I'm saying is quit thinking of "good" foods and "bad" foods. Eat in moderation. You're not eating pie every day (I *HOPE*!!), and you're not eating Crisco every day (again, I *HOPE*!). So use the ingredient that gives you the result you want. OR, quit caring about how your food tastes and looks, and stop using your brain to think about what you're doing, read the paper every day to figure out what the new "bad" food is - because it changes nearly every week - and cook/eat accordingly.

                      I think you can see that the answer is - Eat a wide variety of food. You cook what tastes good to you. When a pie occasion comes along, you bake what tastes the best to you. And most of all, you quit worrying about your food so much. This is the Home Cooking board. You have the power to vary your diet as need be, fix rich and fattening things, and then turn around and do wonderful light and low-fat things, each and every day. And if you're not doing that already, you really need to rethink how and why you're eating food and cooking it.

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                        Robert Lauriston Dec 8, 2006 07:42 PM

                        Crisco was originally developed as a cheaper substitute for animal fats in making candles. It was mistakenly presumed to be safe for human consumption and sold as a substitute for lard.

                        More facts on artificial trans fats:

                        http://www.chowhound.com/topics/show/...

                      2. Robert Lauriston Dec 8, 2006 07:32 PM

                        We discussed this at length just last month:

                        http://www.chowhound.com/topics/340659

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                          Seldomsated Dec 8, 2006 08:53 PM

                          I'm in the butter camp as far as what works best for pie crusts. I still will make a Crisco crust from time to time (it tastes like home - it's what I grew up with), but I mostly use the Pat-in-the-Pan crust from the 1997 version of Joy of Cooking - never had a complaint! (But then it was me eating most of it, so...) I tried oil in crusts before, but could not get anything but a tough and tasteless crust.

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