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cheesecurdsinparadise Nov 18, 2006 04:34 PM

A while back someone posted asking "What is American cuisine?" At the time I was finishing up my master's thesis (on New Orleans cuisine) and didn't have time to respond. Anyway, I dug up a list I made for a traveller to the US a while back. While it is not a true master list, as it tries to list only the quintessential at a local, regional, or national level (thus omits things like Waldorf Salad and Chop Suey), it is a good sample. What else do you think is "quintessential" enough to be on there? (List to follow inside)

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    cheesecurdsinparadise Nov 18, 2006 04:35 PM

    This is, in a sense, an imaginary menu for an American restaurant if I ever have a mid-life crisis and start one. It is therefore arranged like a menu, and not according to region. THIS LIST DOES NOT INCLUDE BREAKFAST ITEMS OR ALCOHOLIC DRINKS, both of which are extensive lists in and of themselves and too much work for me today, but which both represent some of the best of American cuisine. States/regions listed in caps/parenthesis are not the area where the dish is currently popular (many are national, others superregional), but the area where the dish originated. I welcome contradictory evidence on this point, though chances are I've heard the proposed theory and rejected it.

    Again, this list is not meant to be comprehensive (had to leave off some of my favorite dishes, including Bananas Foster and Frozen Custard), but quintessential on a national or local level, meant to be a manageable (if East-Coast-Greek-Diner-level extensensive) menu size. Many All-American dishes that would not do much to impress most foreigners (Jello Salad, Manhattan Clam Chowder) have been eliminated. Let me know what you think, and most importantly if there's anything essential I'm forgetting. If the West Coast seems underrepresented, it is because for all the hype that California and Pacific Northwest cuisines get as concepts, I know of very few actual, popular dishes from these cuisines (ie, dishes prepared very similarly (only minor, idiosyncratic varitaions) and served at restaurants or in homes all across a given city/region). Anyone may fill me in on the essentials I'm missing.

    PART 1:
    HOT BREADS
    Cornbread (??-SOUTH)
    Biscuits (??-SOUTH)
    Sourdough (CALIFORNIA)
    Brown Bread (MASSACHUSETTS)
    Fry Bread (ARIZONA/NEW MEXICO)

    SOUPS
    Farmhouse Corn Chowder (VERMONT/NEW HAMPSHIRE)
    Boston Clam Chowder (MASSACHUSETTS)
    Maryland Crab Soup (MARYLAND)
    Low Country Crab Soup (SOUTH CAROLINA/GEORGIA)
    Corn & Crab (or Corn & Shrimp) Soup (LOUISIANA)
    Seafood Gumbo (LOUISIANA)
    Chicken & Andouille Gumbo (LOUISIANA)
    Cream of Wild Rice and Mushroom Soup (WISCONSIN/MINNESOTA)

    SALADS (ALL FROM CALIFORNIA)
    Caesar Salad
    Cobb Salad
    House Salad (dressings: Ranch, French, Green Godess, 1000 Island)

    APPETIZERS
    Boiled Peanuts (GEORGIA)
    Hush Puppies (GEORGIA)
    Vidalia Onion Rings (GEORGIA)
    Nachos (TEXAS)
    Cheese curds (fresh or fried) (WISCONSIN)
    Buffalo Wings (NEW YORK)
    Burnt Ends (MISSOURI)
    Poke (HAWAII)
    American Sushi (California/Philadelphia/Alaska rolls) (CALIFORNIA)
    Clams Casino (NEW YORK)
    Steamers (Clams) (RHODE ISLAND/CONNECTICUT/MASSACHUSETTS)
    Fried Clams (RHODE ISLAND/CONNECTICUT/MASSACHUSETTS)
    Stuffies (RHODE ISLAND)
    Crab cakes (MARYLAND)
    Oysters on the Half Shell w/ homemade cocktail sauce (LOUISIANA)
    Grilled/Charbroiled Oysters (LOUISIANA)
    Oysters Rockefeller (LOUISIANA)
    Oysters Bienville (LOUISIANA)

    SANDWICHES
    Peanut Butter & Jelly (??)
    Reuben (NEBRASKA, also popular in NEW YORK)
    Philly Cheese Steak (PENNSYLVANIA)
    New York Bagel (NEW YORK) (Lox, Cream Cheese, Salmon)
    Spedie (NEW YORK)
    Hot Brown (KENTUCKY)
    Chimichanga (ARIZONA)
    Chicago Dog (ILLINOIS)
    Grilled Brats w/tradtional toppings (sauerkraut, onions, brown mustard, relish (optional), horseradish (optional)) (WISCONSIN)
    Sheboygan Style Brats (blanched in beer & onions, served two per sandwich) (WISCONSIN)
    Beer Battered Lakefish (WISCONSIN/ILLINOIS/MINNESOTA)
    Seafood Po Boys (Shrimp, Oysters, Catfish, Crawfish (seasonal) (LOUISIANA)
    Muffaletta (LOUISIANA)
    Fried Chicken (TENNESSEE?)
    BBQ Pork (NORTH CAROLINA)
    BBQ Brisket (TEXAS)

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    1. re: cheesecurdsinparadise
      Karl S Nov 18, 2006 08:26 PM

      The category of hot breads should not omit hoecakes, a griddle-baked cornbread once universal here, under which must include the mother Anglo-American version, the jonnycake of Rhode Island.

      Among the soups, kale soup (derived from the caldo verde of the Lusophone diaspora) and fish chowder are as vital to coastal New England cuisine (and fish chowder is certainly older than) as clam chowder.

      1. re: Karl S
        Candy Nov 18, 2006 09:54 PM

        Hot breads needs to have Spoon Bread added

      2. re: cheesecurdsinparadise
        Robert Lauriston Nov 19, 2006 06:58 PM

        People in Arizona eat chimichanga sandwiches?

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        cheesecurdsinparadise Nov 18, 2006 04:35 PM

        Part 2:
        PIZZA
        NEW YORK--Medium-thick, flexible crust, Large slices
        CHICAGO (ILLINOIS)--Deep Dish or Stuffed (sauce on top), Thick, pan-style crust, Copious amounts of cheese & toppings
        CALIFORNIA--Wood-fired, Seasoned, whole-grain crust, Designer ingredients

        MEATS
        CHILI
        TEXAS--no beans or tomatoes, chopped beef, homemade spice blend. Teralingua ready.
        NATIONAL STANDARD (CALIFORNIA?)--ground beef, beans, tomatoes, onions, chili powder, other spices.
        VEGETARIAN (NEW MEXICO)--green and red chili peppers, beans, onions, tomatoes, homemade spice blend
        5 WAY CINCINNATI (OHIO)--ground beef, beans, onions, shredded cheese, sweet spice blend, served on spaghetti

        BARBEQUE
        MEATS:
        Pulled Pork (NORTH CAROLINA)
        Sliced Pork (??-SOUTH)
        Babyback (Pork) Ribs (MISSOURI),
        Dry-rubbed (Pork) Ribs (TENNESSEE)
        Beef Ribs (TEXAS/OKLAHOMA)
        Pulled Brisket (TEXAS)
        Sliced Brisket (TEXAS)
        Chicken (??-SOUTH)
        Mutton (INDIANA/KENTUCKY)
        SAUCES
        NATIONAL STANDARD (??-APPALACHIA perhaps) (slightly tangy blend--ketchup, spices)
        MIDWESTERN (sweet blend: tomato, honey, molasses)
        KANSAS CITY (MISSOURI) (tangy & slightly mesquite blend--tomato, spices)
        TEXAS (very mesquite: tomato, cumin, chili powder, lime juice, liquid smoke)
        NORTH CAROLINA (vinegar & hot pepper)
        SOUTH CAROLINA (yellow mustard & brown sugar)
        NORTHERN ALABAMA (white mustard & cream)
        BLACK DIP (Evansville, INDIANA/Owensboro KENTUCKY) (Worcestershire & Garlic)

        Fajitas (TEXAS)
        Chicken Fried Steak (TEXAS)
        Steakhouse Steak (various cuts) (NEBRASKA/KANSAS/OKLAHOMA)
        Luau Pig (HAWAII)
        Smithfield Ham w/Red-eye Gravy (VIRGINIA)
        Burgoo (KENTUCKY)

        POULTRY
        Southern Fried Chicken (NORTH CAROLINA/TENNESSEE)
        Chicken & Dressing (eg, cornbread or oyster) (MISSISSIPPI/ALABAMA)
        Stuffed Turkey (MASSACHUSETTS). Ready for Thanksgiving
        Deep Fried Turkey (LOUISIANA)

        SEAFOOD (for clams and oysters, see entrees)
        Maine Lobster w/Drawn Butter (MAINE)
        Lobster Newburg (NEW YORK)
        Assorted, Steamed West Coast Crabs (King, Snow, Dungeness) with drawn butter (WASHINGTON/OREGON/CALIFORNIA/ALASKA)
        Maryland-style Steamed (Blue) Crabs (in old bay) (MARYLAND)
        Boiled (Blue) Crabs (in Cajun seasoning) (LOUISIANA)
        Fried Shrimp (??-GULF COAST or LOW COUNTRY)
        Shrimp & Grits (SOUTH CAROLINA)
        Low Country Boil (shrimp, corn, red potatoes, Old Bay seasoning, spices) (SOUTH CAROLINA/GEORGIA)
        "Barbecued" Shrimp (LOUISIANA)
        Shrimp Creole (LOUISIANA)
        Coconut Shrimp (CALIFORNIA)
        Crawfish Etouffee (in season) (LOUISIANA)
        Boiled Crawfish (in season) (LOUISIANA)

        FISH
        Beer Battered Walleye & Lake Perch (MINNESOTA/WISCONSIN/ILLINOIS)
        Planked Lakefish (MINNESOTA/WISCONSIN/ILLINOIS)
        Cedar-grilled salmon (WASHINGTON/OREGON)
        Lomi Lomi Salmon (HAWAII)
        Pompano en Papillote (LOUISIANA)

        RICE
        Rice & Gravy (LOUISIANA)
        Jambalaya (LOUISIANA)
        Red Beans & Rice (LOUISIANA)
        Red Rice (SOUTH CAROLINA)
        Hoppin John (SOUTH CAROLINA)

        POTATOES
        Homemade Kettle Chips (NEW YORK)
        Hash Browns (??-probably MIDWEST)
        Cottage Fries (??- " ")
        Mashed Potatoes & Gravy (?-EAST COAST)
        Baked Potatoes w/the works (??- probably NEW YORK or MIDWEST)
        Twice Baked Potatoes (??-" ")
        Funeral Potatoes (MINNESOTA/SOUTH DAKOTA/WYOMING/UTAH)

        VEGETABLES AND FRUITS
        Succotash (MASSACHUSETTS)
        Down East Baked Beans (MASSACHUSETTS/MAINE)
        Black-eyed Peas (SOUTH CAROLINA)
        Collard/Mustard/Turnip Greens & Ham Hocks (??-either DEEP SOUTH or LOW COUNTRY)
        Fried Okra (LOUISIANA/MISSISSIPPI)
        Fried Green Tomatoes (LOUISIANA/MISSISSIPPI/ALABAMA/TENNESSEE)
        Corn on the Cob (steamed, served with butter or grilled) (??-MIDWEST)
        Sweet Potato Fries (??-SOUTH)
        Candied Yams (LOUISIANA/MISSISSIPPI)
        Squash Casserole (LOUISIANA/MISSISSIPPI)
        Baked Apples (SOUTH CAROLINA/GEORGIA)
        Ruby Pears (SOUTH CAROLINA/GEORGIA)
        Cranberry Sauce (MASSACHUSETTS/VERMONT/NEW YORK)
        Fresh Boysenberries (seasonal) (OREGON)
        Corn Pudding (PENNSYLVANIA/OHIO/NEW YORK)
        Poi (HAWAII)
        Grits (plain or Garlic-Cheese) (SOUTH CAROLINA/GEORGIA)

        CHEESE PLATE (Cheddar aged at least 8 years, Colby, Brick, Farmer's Cheese, Monterey Jack)

        DESSERTS
        Chocolate Chip Cookies (MASSACHUSETTS)
        Brownies (MASSACHUSETTS)
        Cobbler (most popular flavors are Peach and Blackberry. Cherry, blueberry, and apple are also big) (VIRGINIA/NORTH CAROLINA/SOUTH CAROLINA/GEORGIA)
        Banana Pudding (SOUTH CAROLINA/GEORGIA)
        Haupia (HAWAII)
        Pecan Pie (SOUTH CAROLINA/GEORGIA)
        Sweet Potato Pie (??-SOUTH)
        Lemon Meringue Pie (probably TENNESSEE)
        Strawberry-Rhubarb Pie (MINNESOTA/WISCONSIN/ILLINOIS/INDIANA/MICHIGAN)
        Mississippi Mud Pie (MISSISSIPPI)
        Key Lime Pie (FLORIDA)
        Angel Food Cake (PENNSYLVANIA/NEW YORK)
        New York Style Cheesecake (NEW YORK)
        Baked Alaska (NEW YORK)
        Ice Cream Sundae (WISCONSIN)

        DRINKS (Virgin only)
        Iced Tea (KENTUCKY/TENNESSEE)
        Lemonade (KENTUCKY/TENNESSEE)
        Assorted Sodas (GEORGIA)
        Fruit Punch (??-most likely SOUTH CAROLINA/GEORGIA)
        Draft Root Beer (NEW YORK)
        Egg Cream (NEW YORK)
        Non-alcoholic, American-style Apple Cider (MASSACHUSETTS/NEW YORK)
        Smoothie (CALIFORNIA)
        Date Shake (CALIFORNIA)
        Milkshake (??-probably NEW ENGLAND)
        Malted Milkshake (WISCONSIN)

        1. FoodFuser Nov 18, 2006 04:52 PM

          Awesome work. Ethno-demo-graphic-culinaire.

          But where are my Grandma's chicken and dumplings? (Southeast piedmont).

          A list to be savored.

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          1. re: FoodFuser
            r
            RiJaAr Nov 18, 2006 05:59 PM

            definately needs chicken stew w/ dumplings...

            but now i'm hungry from reading all that... off to have lunch now

          2. Glencora Nov 18, 2006 04:56 PM

            Interesting. I would add tuna and BLT to the sandwiches and shrimp cocktails to the seafood. Those are made the same way pretty much everywhere. I assume you left off hot dogs and hamburger for a reason. What about fish tacos? Or tacos in general. Maybe burritos.

            Also, what on earth is burgoo?

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              cheesecurdsinparadise Nov 18, 2006 05:07 PM

              BLT and tuna salad/melt definitely need to be on there. As per Southwestern cuisine with Mexican equivalents, I don't know it well enough to know what's truly Mexican vs American (I know we have our own form of tacos, enchiladas, and burritos, and that chimichangas, fajitas, and nachos are truly American). Generally speaking, California, New Mexico, Texas, and Hawaii are the only states west of the Mississippi. I've found with more than 3-4 truly traditional or popular dishes. The great plains and mountain states are dead zones in terms of culinary innovation (Nebraska's got the Reuben and Tang. Rocky Mountain oysters are nothing new (the only thing American about them is the name and the versions that use Buffalo instead of Beef). I'm not sure where Denver Omelets actually. Come from. To the best of my knowledge, when it comes to the creation of native dishes, North Dakota, South Dakota, Kansas, Oklahoma, Wyoming, Colorado, Montana, Idaho, and Nevada are worthless. Feel free to dispute this claim and educate me).

              Burgoo is the Western Ohio River Valley's version of Brunswick Stew or Booyah. You typically cook it for huge gatherings, and throw multiple types of meat & midwestern vegetables into a cauldron to stew. It's very regional, but very popular in its region.

              1. applehome Nov 18, 2006 08:48 PM

                I'm not sure I understand "quintessential" - why is a walford salad not quintessential? It's representative of a chef's product made in the US to please American appetites.

                While corned beef and pastrami are Euro imports, the gestation they got on the lower east side was unique and the products are ubiquitous across America, although not necessarily up to the same standards everywhere.

                Where is the beef?

                The way we raise and consume beef is unique and has to be included in any American food list. We've invented cuts - from the Delmonico to the tri-tip. We've raised beef eating to the level of a common denominator. There ought to be a way to account for that as a cuisine, even if the recipe, per se, (throw it on the grill) is not necesarily unique.

                Subs (torpedoes/hoagies) - you have a couple (philly chstk, po boys), but the entire range from pepper steak, meatball, cold cuts - Italian/American - chicken or veal parm, ought to be in there.

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                  Sister Sue Nov 18, 2006 10:52 PM

                  That is a great list, however, you left of Mississippi farm-raised catfish fried with a cornmeal batter. Also, we have sweet potatoes in Mississippi, not yams.

                  I am curious. What are funeral potatoes?

                  1. FoodFuser Nov 19, 2006 01:16 AM

                    A few more.

                    1. Pimento cheese. Southeast.

                    http://www.chowhound.com/topics/337125
                    which links to other threads

                    2. Deviled eggs. Southeast/National.

                    3. Regional scrapples (see William Weaver's: Country scrapple: an American tradition. Stackpole Books, c2003.):

                    3A. Scrapple. Pennsylvania

                    3B. Livermush. Carolina piedmont

                    3C. Goetta. Ohio valley

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                      KTFoley Nov 19, 2006 01:50 AM

                      To the desserts, I would add fruit crisps, particularly peach & apple, as well as apple brown betty. They speak of New England to me, but may be more widespread.

                      1. Non Cognomina Nov 19, 2006 04:56 AM

                        Cheesecurds, what were you getting your Masters in? Food anthropology? Very curious.

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                          Steve Nov 19, 2006 05:46 PM

                          What, no potato skins? You also skipped the American penchant for meal salads like steak salad, fried chicken salad, chinese chicken salad.

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                            soupkitten Nov 20, 2006 05:44 PM

                            GREAT thread--

                            don't forget boston baked beans
                            chess pie
                            iced tea
                            spoonbread
                            hash
                            egg salad/american potato salad
                            mixed cocktails
                            chocolate milk
                            macaroni & cheese
                            & quickbreads-- see the entirity of "baking in america" by greg patent for an interesting socioanthrogastronomic american history that you might find very interesting, Cheesecurds, if you haven't already cited it in your thesis

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