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  • PeteM Nov 9, 2006 01:51 AM
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I know there are tons of topics about steakhouses already, but I feel like this one is more specific. Basically, I am looking for the single best order of steak in Toronto.

1. Price does not matter. I am NOT looking for best value!

2. Everything else about the restaurant doesn't matter: venue, service, sides, wine list... It can be in a boiler room of a jailhouse, with inmates serving the food

3. I am not looking for best overall steaks / steakhouse. I am looking for the restaurant with the single best steak.

4. Has to be a restaurant. I am not looking to cook the meat myself.

Basically, I am looking for the best piece of steak in town. What restaurant? Exactly what order (please specify. Just telling me which restaurant is not enough)?
Has anyone tried the Wagyu from North44? How was it? Does it have a chance?

Thank you so much!! Please help guys!

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  1. The best piece of steak in town, bar none, on a good night (most nights) is the large filet at the House of Chan, Eglinton just W of Bathurst. Unlikely surroundings and somewhat unsophisticated service with limited (though delicious) sides (greaseless onion bits and dollar fried taters) - but that meat ! Order it with some garlic on top, use the Chinese mustard on the side, enjoy a well price Amarone from the premium list - heaven awaits....

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    1. re: Bigtigger

      I had that steak about 4 months ago and thought it was only OK.

    2. I had Kobe beef at North 44 last year, it was horrible. What a waste of money! Everything else was great though, I love that place.

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      1. re: s0memale

        Hey s0memale, can you tell me more about North44's Wagyu? Why was it bad?

        Thanks!

        1. re: PeteM

          Though I rarely go to Steak houses, if I have company and they want steak we go to House of Chan.
          This is an old habit, and there might better out there.

      2. Black Angus. Hands down.

        Decor meh.

        Servers meh.

        Steak GOOD. Get the rib steak.

        RIB STEAK GOOD!

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        1. re: Suburban Gourmand

          I would have to say I was very impressed with the Black Angus when I was there a couple of weeks ago. I had the New York Strip (as usual) and it was excellent.

        2. Carmen's Filet Mignon --> best piece of meat in the city.

          Carmen's is on Alexander St (one block north of College, East of Yonge) Seriously old school, you get a baked potatoe (or rice pilaf) with the meat and they serve the sour cream and butter from a big bowl, unlimited quantities.

          They also serve the best garlic bread (lots of garlic, made on the grill), cottage cheese (yup) and delicous pickles and olives as the included appetizers.

          This is not a stylish place, it's just old school: dark wood, covered in german steins and copper pots. The waiters are ancient and have been there from the beginning. And frankly, I think some of the upstairs rooms are privvy to some mafioso deals (okay, maybe that's just my imagination).

          The meat is, however, the best ever. They dry hang it themselves so you get a flavour that's unlike anything else in the city.

          The striploin is huge, great for a striploin but too much meat for one person.

          While you could get the Chateaubriand if you're two people, we never do because I love the flavour of the outside of the filet. Please please get it rare (which will be cool on the inside) or medium rare. If you ask for it medium, they will butterfly it as the filet's are baseball sized i.e. thick.

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          1. re: orangewasabi

            whats the prices like?

            1. re: hungryabbey

              It's around $50 for the steaks - includes those seven starters plus dessert and coffee.

              http://carmans.sites.toronto.com/

              1. re: Chester Eleganté

                hm.. is it an ugly atmosphere? or just kinda old?

          2. People still go to House of Chan? That's funny. On many levels. Quality is not job 1 there any more, although the faithful still flock to their "secret" place.

            For a decently priced meal, try Tom Jones. If someone else is paying, try Harbour Sixty.\

            CK

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            1. re: Cereal Killer

              how much approx. are the steaks at tom jones?

              1. re: hungryabbey

                I was at Tom Jones recently and it was terrible. I used to love the place but time has passed it by.

              2. re: Cereal Killer

                Careful with the Harbour Sixty!!!
                We had dinner there some time ago, we had to send a steak back 3 times before settling for a not so bleu ribeye. Even after writing to the management we were totally ignored - for that price, I would at least have expected a response to a written complaint.

              3. Hmmm... Anyone been to The Fifth? Got a more detailed description of Tom Jones? Is Ruth's Chris, so beloved by tourists, overrated?

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                1. re: estragon

                  I loved the porterhouse for two (rare to medium rare) at Ruth's Chris...as someone once said, it's "steak-flavoured butter". Really, it's one of the best steaks ever. My Albertan friend, however, thinks that putting butter on steak is a travesty.

                  1. re: estragon

                    Ruth's Chris is still my favourite. I don't have the same opinion of Tom Jones but then again I haven't been there in years (despite it being walking distance - perhaps I'll try again)....although recall it as being exorbitantly expensive.

                    1. re: Aardvark

                      I loathe Ruth's Chris.

                      I eat steak rare. The one & only time I've eaten at Ruth's Chris, my steak arrived perfectly cooked. But it was served on a "sizzling" platter at 400 degrees, which meant by the time I'd eaten a quarter of it, it was inedibly well-done.

                      AND my dinner companion burned his arm on *his* ridiculous sizzling platter.

                      What a stupid place.

                      1. re: spigot

                        I think it is stupid too. Never understood it. Dont soak my steak in butter!

                  2. For true ultra top quality beef, raised with passion and love from the restaurant owner's own cattle ranch in northern Ontario, the best restaurant steak in the GTA is the 'Limousin Beef' served at Via Allegro. Leave it to Phil Sabatino to put something over the top on your plate! I had the 16oz. Striploin, as well as the 12oz. Filet...both DRY AGED 'really' (not for pretend)...and they were both grilled and absolutely the best steak I have ever tasted in my life. Rumour is he will open a steak house in downtown toronto serving his esteemed Limousin Beef. Can't wait

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                    1. re: The Macallan 18

                      Although I said my current fave is Mortons, I plan to high-tail it to Via Allegro soon! I've never ordered steak there, guess I didn't know it was the thing to have.

                      1. re: The Macallan 18

                        What makes 'Limousin Beef' so good? I don't think I've heard about this beef before.

                      2. People are gonna hate me for this, but I'm answering PeteM's question as it was asked: just the steak, price (and other things) not important:
                        Mortons.
                        That's where I go when I'm craving a good steak. I just sit at the bar so I don't have to bother with the restaurant itself, and feast on the meat! I usually have the filet mignon, because it's smaller, but the other cuts are good as well.

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                        1. re: MichelinStarChaser

                          Each time I have been to Morton's: Steak ALWAYS excellent.
                          Always perfect. Staff. Atmosphere.
                          Whether I be dining alone at zeeeee bar, or with friends.
                          EXCELLENT.

                          1. re: MichelinStarChaser

                            Have never had a steak at Morton's that was anything other than ordinary.

                          2. I 2nd Via Allegro - I think that their fillet is divine (around $45 or so), and definately check out the wine list!

                            1. The top steak houses on my list are:

                              1. Ruth's Chris Steak House - I personally love the hot plate and the butter but you can always ask for a regular plate and no butter.

                              2. Habour Sixty

                              3. Barbarian's Steak House

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                              1. re: vanessavan

                                My top three are as follows..
                                1.Barberians-stodgie but the best! The bone in ribsteak is AWESOME. Just make sure you dont get the waiter who looks like lurch from the munsters.He broke my balls aboot the tip once.
                                The owner is a COOL DUDE! he laid a two minute smokey-burnout for us in his 200k Benz-AMC one time! Right out in front!
                                Also no lame dresscode-you can rock 3xlt t's and baggy polo jeans and they don't give a F**K. just bring money.

                                2.THE TULIP no explanation necessary. Be sure to step over the homeless peeps on the way in.

                                1. re: landwhale

                                  I disagree with Tulip, OK for the price but it's not the best .

                                  1. re: landwhale

                                    great post, hahaha

                                    this cracked me up.

                                  2. re: vanessavan

                                    Yeah I think Barberian's is the best in Toronto. The ambiance is like stepping back in time about 40 years, the wine selection and cellar is world class, and the steaks are absolutely top notch, so is the service.

                                    1. re: jtboyd

                                      Very old thread here but nice that Barberians stays so consistent through all these years.

                                  3. I recently was at the Chan and I had to send my steak back (NY Strip) as it wasn't cooked as ordered.

                                    1. Definitely The Place for Stake on Shephard near Bathurst This place is an institution with the same owners at the same location for 40 years. Best value and best tasting stake in Toronto

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                                      1. re: Mr.D

                                        That would be "The Place for Steak and Seafood" at 638 Sheppard West. (416) 633-7504

                                      2. Mortons (just need a mortgage to go there), but best bar none.

                                        1. Ok Carmen's looks amazing. I'm going tonight! Also, Barberian's was the place I was trying to rec.

                                          1. I have had the Oakleigh Ranch Wagyu beef (from australia) @ "one " on Yorkville. Extremely well marbled. One Serves the same Wagyu Ribeye as well as North 44.This same product is served @ Queue De Cheval in Montreal. It was awesome.

                                            cheers

                                            brian13

                                            1. Has anyone gone to Jacob's and Co?

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                                              1. re: Bob Sacamento

                                                lots of people have, and it sounds great...

                                                haven't seen a negative review, other than the price of course

                                                punch it into the Search box at the top, lots of reviews will come up

                                                cheers

                                                1. re: Bob Sacamento

                                                  Jacob's and Co., is, how you would say, off the hook. A meat lovers paradise. Their sides are amazing too. I thought my heart was going to stop after my meal there....it's that good.

                                                2. Jacobs & Co. is, for my money, the best steakhouse in the city. The 'youngest' steak they serve is dry aged 41 days, or if you like older, they have 50, 52, 54, and 58. Length of dry aging is very much a personal preference, but I've never had a steak from their list that I didn't enjoy...and when you want rare, that's how it is delivered.

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                                                  1. re: finelydiced

                                                    I had the 16oz Ribeye at bymark about 8 months ago. I love a good steak and for my taste the chef was dead on that night. Basically didn't care if I even ate the rest of the meal. It was $55.00 at the time for the steak. I eat my steaks medium rare and request that it be more on the rare side of medium (it was close to blue that night) - I would eat that steak every day if I could.

                                                    1. re: BusterRhino

                                                      Yeah, Bymark has really good steaks too.

                                                  2. I am going to throw another name into the pot: Seniors. An oldie but a goodie. Always great. Done perfectly medium. And I do love the old school no frills feel of the joint. Totally opposite to Morton's, which I found pretentious and not really better than Chan or Seniors. I also agree with The Place for Steak and Seafood.

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                                                    1. re: Toronto Fastfoodie

                                                      Just about everyone I know raves about Senior's. Haven't tried it myself yet but it will be the next place I try for steak.

                                                    2. Next year, just after valentines day, go to Allen's on the Danforth. Go for the Steak Festival. Thats where I had recently had the best AND second best steaks I believe that i have tried. I had an 8 oz Ontario raised Wagyu striploin dry aged (28 days if I remember correctly). It was pan seared a perfect even rare. It had the shape and texture of filet mignon, and the rich flavour and marbling of a striploin. That was the second best steak I have tried in Toronto. I actually prefered my friends cut: a bone in 14 oz rib steak, from Scotch Mountain Farms, in Ontario. aged 42 days. It was cooked medium rare, had a richer, fattier flavour then my steak and unbelievably tender. Go.

                                                      1. So, if you can put up with the scenesters, the (often) indifferent service and the overpriced wine, I would recommend the 8oz filet at Nota Bene ("DAVID’S PRIVATE STOCK, Naturally Raised 60 Day Dry-Aged Beef, Served with Café de Paris Butter"). I'm normally a rib steak guy as I rarely find a filet to have the flavour I look for in beef - this was a rare exception. My Alberta livin, steak eatin', always beef criticizin' boss also agreed. I imagine it would even be good without the butter for the butter bigots who have commented here.

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                                                        1. re: IMEC

                                                          "butter bigots" hehe.

                                                        2. Rib steak at Black Angus. Served on a wooden cutting board by an ancient waiter in a bow tie in an environment that resembles a time capsule from the late '70s. Red vinyl circular booths, shrimp cocktails, and martinis. It doesn't get better than this.

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                                                          1. re: redearth

                                                            My question would be a specific variant of the OP - where is the single best ribsteak in town? (dont care if it's bone in or ribeye)

                                                            1. re: FresserGuy

                                                              Best rib steak I've had has been at Black Angus. It's bone in, massive, with a nicely charred exterior, served on a wooden cutting board. I'm getting hungry thinking about it. I might have to go this week...

                                                              1. re: redearth

                                                                MyMark, The australian wagyu Striploin would be my favourite. Extremely tender and a the Marbling has that disitnct wagyu flavour.You must try if you have not!

                                                          2. House of Chan is OK, ditto Jacobs. Splendido/NB has a large bone-in 60 day aged rib and they know how to cook it... Either you befriend Steve @ Cumbraes and buy/cook yourself (don't kid yourself, that S/NB meat doesn't come from the display cabinet, not even close) or you pay $90 or so for a thick slab there.

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                                                            1. re: FoodNazi

                                                              Splendido/NB steak is the best i've ever had.
                                                              The steak at House of Chan is probably the best value, 50 bucks for a steak with all the trimmings (potatoes, fried onions and salad). And it's USDA Prime, dry aged.
                                                              I've heard mixed reviews about Jacobs, but havn't been myself so i can't comment.
                                                              I do however love steak!

                                                              1. re: lepetitgourmand

                                                                Try Tom Jones Steakhouse downtown just by King and Yonge. I haven't eaten there in awhile but they had fantastic steaks. They have 24oz Prime Rib Steaks, Striploin and Porterhouse. It's a bit stuffy and old school but the service and food is great.
                                                                Another place called Le Papillon on Front has a very good fillet. Tender and juicy without a heavy price tag.
                                                                Carmens is always good. I despise the atmosphere though.
                                                                Hy's Steakhouse is really pricey but it has good atmosphere. The steaks are good but maybe a little overpriced.
                                                                Harbor 60 Steakhouse is expensive and I wasn't impressed with the steaks after 2 visits so I haven't gone back.
                                                                I'm eager to try this House of Chan!

                                                                1. re: TheGimp

                                                                  I tried House of Chan over the weekend. I was a little underwhelmed. The quality of the meat seemrd very good, but the quality of the cooking and the sides was not as good. I had a rib eye. The meat was tender, but was charred in a bad way. The sides were not my cup of tea. There were fried potato slices, french fried onions, and salad. Personally I felt that it was a shame to have a nice cut of meat prepared in a not so great way. I just happened to have dined at Ruth's Chris the week before (it has been a banner beef month for me) and I enjoyed the steak at Ruth's a lot more. I know Ruth has it's problems, but the price of the 16oz rib eye is the same at Ruth's as House of Chan. So my vote is for Ruth's no contest.

                                                            2. Now that I can afford it, we've been to a few top TO spots find the steak flavour I remember from growing up on the farm. My dad raised 2-3 steers for our own use and he also did the steers for his childhood friend, a butcher, from the old country. Together they worked to make the beef the best it could be. Looking back, we ate like kings.

                                                              I think, once you get to the top level, the cost difference isn't that great. $270 isn't far off $320 + drinks. So go to the place that suits your occasion.

                                                              Taste rated 1 - 10

                                                              9 is pretty much the top rating for me. Leaves room for improvement as there is always something you might like different or maybe isn't perfect that night.
                                                              These places have steak with good flavours.
                                                              Harbour 60: Most $, good flavour (8.75), top service. 9+ overall experience.
                                                              Mortons: Good chain, a bit crowded for the $, as much about being seen there as saying you did, flavour 8.5, experience 8.5.
                                                              Barbarians: Up there in $, flavour 8.5, somewhat hit and miss plate by plate. Experience? Maybe 8.25 but might have been higher if the staff attitude wasn't as off-putting.
                                                              Ruth's Chris: You know what to expect and get it. Service is important to the experience so they try hard. But it's a system. Might be above Barbarians due to attitude. Butter is merely an effect for sizzle. That's what they are selling, sizzle. Flavour, 8.25, overall solid 8.5.
                                                              Tom Jones: Haven't been for 5 years. Didn't think it was much more than decor/style. Forgetful steak wise so I can't rate the flavour. overall? Maybe I recall you could be anywhere else so nothing special.
                                                              Canoe: Didn't have steak but the experience was 9+.

                                                              Others
                                                              Master Steak: An old drive-in up by the airport on Dixie, that is really unassuming. $9 8oz, steak lunch special. What a surprise! Flavour 8.25! A bit over done but the flavour was a shocker. it's aged. Realistically maybe an 8 for flavour even measured against the big boys. But BLOWS the Tulip for taste and hits the value out of the park.

                                                              Tulip: Been a ton of times. It's slipping. Occasionally get grocery store steaks on sale that are a fair bit better. Last few steaks were just meat, not tough or anything, just bland and over salted a few times to near the point of wanting to send it back. $26 for an $8 piece of meat at least deserves grill marks on the onion slab. If the steak was a 8.5+ the plain onion slab could be a fun understatement and you could overlook the waiter rushing around and forgetting your drink order.... You might be eating beside a roofer, straight off the job. Overall 7. It was an 8+ a few years ago for flavour/value but never had a GREAT steak. Would I go back? Yup. It's close.

                                                              Outback: Grocery store quality meat. Flavour? You might get a 7.5 or a bit better, more likely a 7 but I'll take that over a lot of other box-store plaza food. Never had less than a 7. Consistent, that's what a chain aims for, right?

                                                              Batton Rouge: Never been, might give it a go over other chains.

                                                              Only an opinion.

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                                                              1. re: farmboy_likes_steak

                                                                I have to wonder if you ordered the same cut of steak at each of these places. Different cuts produce different flavour as we well know. Myself, I don't go for the striploins that often, I enjoy T-Bone, Porter's, Ribeye etc. I guess to each person their own though. I agree with your list somewhat but would change the order in a couple of places. Nothing wrong with a 10 rating either, give credit where it is due as your list only becomes 1-9 by defacto. I can have a 10 at a steak house one week and an 8 the next unfortunately.

                                                                1. re: farmboy_likes_steak

                                                                  Wow! thanks. Your list is comprehensive and detailed. Glad to see that Ruth's gets a decent rating.

                                                                2. has anyone tried the octagon steak house in thornhill? i've heard good things...

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                                                                  1. re: goldendelicious

                                                                    I am not a lover of their steaks but they make the best Caesar Salad tableside and the garlic bread is yummy.

                                                                  2. Jacob's & Co is probably serving the most expensive possibly best steak in the city. I went last week and they were listing a Grade 5 piece of Japanese beef (wasn't Kobe, it was from another region), at $190 for 6 oz is ain't cheap.

                                                                    1. Does anyone know if there are any steakhouses that offer up a skirt steak?

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                                                                      1. re: radiopolitic

                                                                        I'd try a french bistro with good steak frites, they should be using either skirt or hanger steak

                                                                        1. re: radiopolitic

                                                                          I don't know of a steakhouse but the Drake Hotel on QWW does a great steak frites using a well aged skirt steak. Only minus, they pre-slice it for you, but you can likely request that they "back off" and let you cut your own meat.

                                                                          While I am posting I concur with those who have recommended Slendido/NB's steaks, they are excellent. My choice is the rib steak.