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red wine / white wine..... best matches for cheese plate?

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bostonbakedbean Nov 3, 2006 06:08 PM

I would really enjoy some help here?

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  1. TonyO Nov 3, 2006 06:12 PM

    Depends on the cheeses . I would have both red and white with flavor profiles to match the cheeses (the stronger the cheese, the more full bodied the wines should be). If you are going with basic cheddars and maybe some chevre or feta, keep the wines basic also maybe a Pinot Noir and a Sauvignon Blanc. If you are going to be a bit mor adventurous, maybe a Nebbiolo and a Spatlese Riesling (great with Blue Cheese).

    Enjoy !

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      Wanda Fuca Nov 4, 2006 01:35 PM

      Quick ref:
      http://www.gourmetsleuth.com/cpairing.htm

      More explaination (plus how to serve etc):
      http://www.2basnob.com/wine-cheese-pa...

      You could also go out on a limb and try wines with cheese they are not traditionally paired with (as an experiment and adjunct to actual proven pairings) and see for yourself what goes and what doesn't and why. A good excuse to chow on cheese and swill wine.

      1. Yaqo Homo Nov 6, 2006 07:03 AM

        For young soft cheeses, go with a Savignon Blanc or another aggressively dry white

        A decent red Rioja is heavenly with a variety of aged cheeses.

        Blue cheese is lovely with heavy, luxurious white dessert wines like ice wine or tokaj. Riesling is also a nice choice--and works with more mellow cheeses as well

        1. Bill Hunt Nov 6, 2006 10:12 PM

          I am in agreement with many of the posters, regarding the ease of matching many white wines, rather than reds, with "cheeses." By "cheeses," I mean a general selection from your grocery, not cheeses chosen to accompany specific wines. I'm also in agreement with the inclusion of a white and a red (or maybe more than 1 each) for the cheese course. I work with my caterer, or my grocer, to pick the specific cheeses, and will often serve a full-bodied white Burg (Chardonnay) with some cheeses, and an older CalCab, or Bdx. with others. Exceptions might be some of the wonderful hard Spanish cheeses, which seem to call out for an older Rioja, or Priorato. Something about the Tempranillo & Garnacha Tinta fits with these cheeses.

          One should also consider the mouthfeel/texture of the cheeses being served and use that as a guide - creamy cheeses with creamy wines, etc. Same can be said for a salty cheese - choose a wine with a bit more fruit-forward character, or maybe even a tiny bit of RS.

          I always give my guests the encouragement to try each cheese, with each wine, but, over the years, it is almost certain that some will go with the white far better, and some will go with the red(s), though with a bit less regularity. I've found that many cheeses are ruined, as is the wine, when randomly paired with reds.

          Hunt

          PS some very good links in the earlier posts!

          1. Robert Lauriston Nov 6, 2006 10:30 PM

            My favorite cheese wine is a young, rustic Bordeaux, such as a Cotes de Bourge. They can't be beat with ripe Reblochon, Camembert, or the like, and go well with most other cheeses.

            Not great with some goat cheeses or most blues.

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              Luwak Nov 7, 2006 05:40 AM

              All I can add to the excellent advice above is a fine reference text: The All American Cheese and Wine Book by Laura Werlin. You might check your local library.

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                Bill Hunt Nov 8, 2006 01:45 PM

                I've also found this book to be very useful. While it is geo-centric in both the cheeses, and the wines, one can easily "read between the lines," and apply most of the examples to international fare.

                Hunt

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                Chicago Mike Nov 7, 2006 05:21 PM

                Over the years I've tried a very wide range of wine/cheese combinations. Here are my favorites, the very best matches being capitalized:

                With White Wines:

                Chardonnay: Brie, CHEVRE (goat cheese), COMTE, Aged Gouda, GRUYERE, Havarti and Parmesan Reggiano

                Sauvignon Blanc: Cheddar (4yr old), CHEVRE (goat cheese), GRUYERE, PROVOLONE (real italian, not the american stuff), TOMME BASCO

                Riesling: Colby, EMMENTAL, Gouda, Aged Gouda, Leyden

                Gewurztraminer: EMMENTAL, GRUYERE

                For Red Wines:

                Cabernet/Merlot: CHEDDAR, CHEVRE (goat cheese), Gloucester, GOUDA, Aged Gouda, Morbier, PARMESAN REGGIANO, PROVOLONE

                Rioja: Appenzeller, Beaufort Savoyard, Cabrales, Camembert, Cheddar (8yr), CHEVRE (goat cheese), Comte, Edam, Feta, Fontina, Gloucester, GORGONZOLA, Aged Gouda, Gruyere, Havarti, IBERICO, Montasio Mezzano, Ossau-Iraty, Parmesan Reggiano, Pecorino Toscano, PECORINO STAGIANATO

                Pinot Noir: Cheddar (4Yr), CHEDDAR (8Yr), CHEVRE (goat cheese), EPOISSES, Feta, Havarti, Parmesan Reggiano, ROQUEFORT

                Syrah: APPENZELLER, BEAUFORT SAVOYARD, Cheddar (4Yr), CHEVRE (goat cheese), COMTE, Feta, Gloucester, Gorgonzola, AGED GOUDA, GRUYERE, Iberico, MONTASIO MEZZANO, PARMESAN REGGIANO, PECORINO TOSCANO, PECORINO STAGIANATO, Raclette, RONCAL, Zamarano

                Zinfandel: Camembert, Cheddar (4Yr), CHEDDAR (8Yr), CHEVRE (goat cheese), Epoisses, Feta, PARMESAN REGGIANO, PROVOLONE, ROQUEFORT

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                  Hapa Dude Nov 8, 2006 12:12 AM

                  I just bought my girlfriend a book called "What to drink with what you eat". It seems pretty cool, as it lists foods & what to drink (not just wines), and also has another section listing drinks and what foods go with it. The cheese section is quite large, and it does go into some detail in certain cases (for example, it will specify a new world pinot).

                  http://www.amazon.com/What-Drink-You-...

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                    amwf Nov 9, 2006 03:32 AM

                    Here is a list of wine pairings the Wine School did with DiBrunos in Philly a few weeks ago:
                    http://www.wineclass.net/2006/10/12/d...

                    However, for simplicity sake, here are a few basic rules:
                    Cheese with lots of salt and fat, go with a high-acid white wine.
                    For blue cheeses, go with a low-acid white wine (never a red).
                    For wine with high-protein content, go with a moderately tannic red.

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