What is mac and cheese to you?
No recipes please, just brief descriptions. Does it include bechamel? Oven or stove? Crusted? what cheese? Elbow? yada yada yada
For me it was elbow mac and velveeta on the stove, nothing more, but NEVER from a box. Often with sloppy joe on the side, mixing at one's own discretion.
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Whenever I make mac and cheese, no matter how fancy I get, I am always comparing it to the stuff served by my high school cafeteria. Elbow macaroni, in some sort of smooth white cheddar sauce. Spiced with salt and black pepper, and I think that was it. No ham, bell pepper or baked topping.
It was worth it to skip lunch for three days in a row, to save lunch money for three meals on mac and cheese day (and dozing through English class afterward). I don't know if it was lovingly crafted by lunch lady Doris or if it came out of some Gordon Foodservice industrial spigot, but man oh man I still think about it.
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I strongly prefer elbows.
Bechamel made w/evaporated milk.
Don't want onions or tomatoes or ham.
Don't need "topping" (although it's lovely if someone wants to fuss)
Grew up on Kraft (K-R-A-F-T)
My kids always told me that Dad made it better than I did. WTH???? Its' Kraft Mac n Cheese and he doesn't know how to cook.About a year ago, I figured it out. He puts the MILK in first, before adding butter and powder packet. I had always put the butter in first. I was doing it wrong according to my kids. sigh.
Another good recipe is Ronald Reagan's favorite Macaroni and Cheese.
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Lots of different things. Sometimes I'll do a quick & easy stovetop version (bechamel, cheddar, gruyere, mustard, cayenne, pinch of nutmeg), sometimes an elaborate oven-baked panko-crusted one (recipe from Gourmet magazine cookbook - which I highly recommend!), sometimes I throw chunks of ham in, sometimes not. Sometimes I'm in the mood for creamy, sometimes baked and more crunchy. Sometimes I use traditional elbows, sometimes rotini or fusilli. Mac & cheese is more of a food group than a single dish around here!
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Definitely oven, with multiple cheeses. Elbows mainly but sometimes other shapes. Small ones though, not penne. Ever since starting with Patti LaBelle's recipe bechamel does not figure into it; we continue on with that recipe's use of two beaten eggs, 2 cups half and half and a stick of butter (melted) all just poured into the mac before baking. We have varied a bit though. That recipe also calls for 8oz of Velveeta in addition to the 2 cups of real cheeses, but we don't always use it instead putting more real cheese. It comes out creamier with the Velveeta, of course.
Growing up I would have much preferred the original Kraft Dinner stuff with the powder, although the typical in our household was Kraft Deluxe, with the can of cheese sauce. The Deluxe had a sharper taste I didn't care for as much then. Now I wouldn't typically touch either when I can make a more serious variety.
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oh, I had forgotten about the M & C at the automat. In those individual baking dishes, all bubbly & brown.....One of my very very favorite childhood memories.
Other than the H&H Automat version:
elbow
bechemel w/nutmeg (currently made with mix of butter & bacon drippings)
VERY sharp cheese
buttered breadcrumbs
baked, with fights at the table for the crispy edges
served with stewed tomatoes (or sloppy Joes or pulled BBQ pork) & mixed up on the plate until it looks like something out of a horror movie.As shown above, I've recently added crumbled bacon & finely diced onion (sauteed in the bacon fat). Hey, if I'm going to do it, I'm going to DO IT!
I have also "Mexicanized" it, with peppers, jack cheese, choizo & served with salsa.
I like the idea or gruyere or maybe a little gouda. Also like the suggestion of panko & paprika. So many versions, so little time........
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re: PattiCakes
Luxury Brand #7 noodles, thicker than spaghetti and hollow.
Take a can of tomatoes, cook down in a pan until they are nice and thick
Grated cheddar.
Pasta, tom, cheese, and repeat another layerThat's it, no sauce, just cheese pasta and tomato, and of course some butter. baked in the oven until all the cheese in nice and melted and there are some crunchy brown bits on the top.
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I use my great aunt's secret family recipe. It starts on the stove and ends in the oven and contains spaghetti.
However, when I was in college and living in a dorm, I did make Velveeta Shells and Cheese in my illegal hot pot.
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Cheese Bacon Mac & Cheese to die for!
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for me, mac-and-cheese has evolved over the years
growing up, stouffers was the gold standard -- would pay a lot of money to be able to replicate THAT recipe.
my mother's recipe was a egg and milk cheesey baked custard.
now, stovetop, evaporated milk, egg, cheese, hot sauce, dried mustard topped with bread crumbs, grated parm, hazelnut meal crust.
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Kraft. And I have to make it. They say boil the pasta for 7-9 minutes (I think) - I do 4.5. Drain VERY well. Use slightly less milk than they call for. And for milk I use 1/2 Skim, 1/2 Half and Half (these are the only milks that I ever buy). Oh, and it has to be the powdered cheese kind.
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I'm lazy. Just elbow macaroni and a good sharp cheddar (Black Diamond white of late). Cook the mac, shred the cheese, mix the cheese into the hot mac with a pair of chopsticks and eat it. I do add some milk, dried mustard and more cheese to make a makeshift sauce when I heat it up the next day.
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I usually have some sort of protien in mine as well. I usually take some Tennessee Pride sausage, break it up, add flour and milk, like I would for sausage gravy. Then add about a lb of cheese to make a cheese sauce. Add it to elbow mac and let it cool. Then I take about another lb of grated cheddar and mix it into the M&C so that you get nice pockets or ooey gooey cheddar.
Bake in the over and voila. Meaty Mac and Cheese.DT
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I love any mac and cheese except from a box. Reconsituted powdered cheese just does not tempt me.
But the mac and cheese I love most and always make is a stovetop mac and cheese. Elbow macaroni is boiled until well-done and stirred into a sauce cooked with eggs, evaporated milk, grated cheddar, mustard powder, cayenne, black pepper, and salt. I let sit for one hour. Sprinkle with more grated cheddar and broil. Brown and bubbly on top, creamy and silky underneath. Mmmmm.
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re: amyzan
Yes, my recipe derives from both John Thorne and Cook's Illustrated. Like John Thorne, I use more cheese than CI, liking it it very cheesy. I use half the eggs that CI uses. I don't stir the macaroni around in the sauce much, because I don't want the sauce to pick up much starch from the noodles. Letting it sit one hour is my trick, giving the sauce time to set up just right. I agree with you that the buttered crumbs can be fabulous; sometimes I do buttered crumbs for a change from the grilled cheese topping.
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I grew up eating Kraft and another one that I can't remember right now (maybe Prince?), and must admit that every now and then my girl and I make a box as sort of a goof.
My preference is for a baked version with lots of bechamel, cheddar, gruyere, and a little parm, maybe a little thyme, bread crumbs. I'll take it with elbows, penne, rigatoni, or pretty much any short pasta tubes. Crushed red pepper or cayenne from time to time. If it's a main course I'll sometimes add pancetta and/or mushrooms, if a side I'll skip the additions. You're gonna have to fight me for the crispy corners.
But I'm with some others here and will eat pretty much any mac n' cheese.
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I grew up thinking it was a main course until I learned that in the south it's a side dish. Much more civilized.
I thought Horn & Hardardt had good mac & cheese when I was a kid.
I recently had Oprah's favorite mac & cheese at Delilah's at the Reading Terminal Market in Philly. It had a fluffy, eggy, almost souffle-like cheese mixed in with slightly too mushy macaroni, and a nice black pepper accent.
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Back in university, KD was the thing, only we added extra protein (growing boys, eh?). KD and cut up hot dogs, KD and tuna, KD and left over turkey..
Nowadays, our nanny makes a great version: scratch cheddar cheese sauce over elbow macaroni, baked until crusty on top, and then served with a homemade salsa of tomato, cilantro, onion, and vinegar. The salsa gives it a sharpness which plays nicely in counterpoint to the mellow richness of the mac & cheese.
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Velveeta Shells and Cheese (with the sauce, not a packet).
My parents went to Disney and brought back mac n cheese for the little one -- with high-quality pasta (Mickey shaped of course) and Vermont white cheddar (albeit made from a powder). Of course, since it was white, she wouldn't touch it. DH and I enjoyed it immensely. :-P
I tried a bechamel once and failed miserably. Maybe when I'm brave, and move into a house with a normal kitchen (where I can, maybe, buy and store flour??) I'll try it again.
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Something I have never had. It is just one of those foods, like bread pudding, that i'm pretty darn sure I won't like.
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My answer is Yes!
I love the old straight-noodle fluorescent-cheese stuff that was called Kraft Dinner when I was a kid. I love the kind made with a bechamel-based cheese sauce. I love the "School Cafeteria" kind from the Sterns' book "Square Meals", made very much like Kraft Dinner only with lots of REAL cheese, and butter instead of margarine. I like it with or without ham, with or without sliced tomatoes, with cheese or panko crumbs or potato chip crumbs or nothing on top. I love it with a souffle-like consistency, I love it heavy and goopy, I love it kinda dry and reheated. And now that I can get the Dreamfields low-GI pasta in elbows format, I'll be able to keep on making it and loving it forever. Yay!
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Mmmm. A pound of elbows cooked, a pound of Velveeta coarsely grated, mixed together in a Pyrex casserole dish with a little salt and pepper then topped with crushed Saltines. Baked at 375 until bubbly and gloopy throughout and slightly crisped and browned on top. Mom's macaroni-and-cheese. Sigh.
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This may sound odd to some but I make a bechamel, flavor it with lots of nutmeg and cayenne...and NO CHEESE. (I am a notorious cheese hater) However, my friends who love cheese themselves had tried it with trepidation...and really enjoyed it...don't knock it till you try it! :}
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I still steal back to a box of Kraft every now, and then. A guilty pleasure and so simple...
But, I've been serving my family a three cheese mac dish for a number of years: al dente elbows mixed with heavy cream, mozarella cheese, Romano cheese and topped with Extra Sharp Cheddar. Then finished in the oven.
I throw a great bread at them, with butter, no one's ever complained.
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Elbow macaroni is a must -- otherwise it isn't "macaroni" and cheese, it's just pasta and cheese.
I like both baked and stovetop versions -- especially since my fellow Home Cookers pointed me to the Alton Brown stovetop version, which is just as quick as Kraft (okay, I too confess a secret nostalgic fondness for it) and a whole lot better. When I have a little extra time, I spoon some into a ramekin, top it with some buttered breadcrumbs and put it in the toaster oven for a few minutes. Voila! Baked mac-and-cheese!
If someone can make a good version without the bechamel then more power to them, but honestly, I think the cheese melts and melds with the macaroni much better when it's mixed with something. Sometimes when I make baked mac-and-cheese I add some sauteed onions and bits of ham or bacon. Yummy!
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Mmmmm, mac and cheese.
Made with bechamel with loads of sharp cheddar baked in Le Crueset so it get really crusty.Always add Grandma's secret ingredients, splash of worcheshire and a teaspoon of dried mustard powder which totally enhances the cheese flavour.
But for a hangover, Kraft Dinner, extra creamy, with loads of fresh cracked pepper.
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re: Mila
Wow, my recipe has worcestershire, dried mustard AND a little grated onion. I got it from I forget what cookbook, in the seventies...really good! With bechamel and lots of sharp cheddar, baked usually with crumbs on top...tho I will try panko next time...this is what I grew up with, but also loved Kraft, but they are just apples and oranges.
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Ours is very non-traditional. Rigatoni noodles in a glass baking dish, with sliced sharp cheddar arranged on top, a half cup or so of milk poured around the noodles, salt and pepper. Bake about an hour till the top is hard and crusty. We can't eat it any other way. Everybody wants "the crunchy part".
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It must have elbow noodles, and the cheese sauce made extra-sharp cheddar (Cabot's Hunter is excellent), and maybe another cheese if I feel like it, such as fontina or Monterey Jack - milk, dry mustard and salt/pepper for seasoning. And it's gotta have ham cubes in it. I always get a single thick slice of deli ham. Ask for it to be cut about 3/4" thick, which you can then cut into cubes. Finally, topped with panko crumbs and oven baked.
Absolute heaven.
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Whatever recipe that's in my late grandmas Good Housekeeping Cookbook. Its baked, but no breadcrumbs.
My mom made it last year for Thanksgiving. We girls sit around the kitchen over the holidays and go through all of grandmas old cookbooks b/c she wrote lots of notes, revisions to recipes and even some of the her own recipes. It is nice to remember her in that way. I will have to remind mom to add this to the list for this year as well.
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First it was Kraft, until I got out of college. Then it was bechamel with cheddar made on the stove top (NOT baked! NO breadcrumbs!). Now, it's cottage cheese, milk, eggs and seasonings blended and then poored over uncooked macaroni and shredded cheddar and baked until bubby and pasta is tender. YUM!
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re: jenhen2
I am :guessing: (correct me if I'm wrong, jenhen2) that she is talking about the NYT's "Creamy Macaroni and Cheese" recipe from a few years ago. It is out of this world -- I make it for an elderly man who I cook and housekeep for, and he asks for it more often than anything else I make.
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Martha Stewart's recipe, in the square yellow 1000-page book, is pretty good.
It's elbow macaroni, bechamel, two kinds of cheese, cheddar and gruyere, and homemade challah croutons. You have to add extra macaroni, and it makes enough for several armies, but boy oh boy is it good.
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re: FlavoursGal
In northern New York state we called it Kraft Dinner too. I would not touch the stuff. My mother had spoiled me with the real stuff before KD became available.
The real stuff to me is made with rich sharp cheddar in a bechamel. Ideally the baking dish would have been buttered and coated with freshly grated parm. Mid-sied elbows and buttered freshly sauteed in butter bread crumbs on top which browned and became crunchy.
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