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bitsubeats Oct 24, 2006 06:58 AM

So, I think my boyfriend bought this as a joke. It cost $7 for a 40 oz (what other size would it be, right?) and actually comes with it's own labeled paper bag for easy coverage/carry. It's been sitting in my fridge for a week and we are too scared to drink it.

have any of you tried it? For $7 it has to taste better than Steel Reserve, right?

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  1. therealbigtasty RE: bitsubeats Oct 24, 2006 08:28 AM

    Why didn't you just buy Country Club?

    I'm a bartender, sometimes beer snob, and always a malt liquor afficionado. Whether paying much cash for nice beer or hanging with a forty of Old E I do it all and enjoy it, too. Country Club, I think, is the best bang for your buck. Some reviews say it tastes horrible, but I think that's the power of suggestion as the price is quite low.

    Now, Steel Reserve on the other hand, is awful. I'll never put that in my body again.

    But I've never had this Dogfish Head Malt Liquor. I'd like to, where do you purchase such a thing?

    Seven bucks for a forty is too much unless it's amazing.

    1. JMF RE: bitsubeats Oct 24, 2006 01:40 PM

      I haven't had it, but anything by Dogfish Head is great. It's high in my top 5 US breweries. Try it and let us know.

      1. Ernie Diamond RE: bitsubeats Oct 24, 2006 05:31 PM

        Dogfish is one of the best breweries in the US. I've never seen the 40 but I'd grab it in a heartbeat if I did, camp or not.

        1. therealbigtasty RE: bitsubeats Oct 24, 2006 06:19 PM

          I just looked it up online and it's a fancy forty! Wow!

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            kenito799 RE: bitsubeats Oct 24, 2006 06:38 PM

            don't be afraid...taste and report!

            1. bitsubeats RE: bitsubeats Oct 24, 2006 07:55 PM

              I don't really like dogfish head too much, I mean it's okay if you are in a pinch but I can think of way better beers. I think my boyfriend purchased it in a suburb of boston

              maybe I will taste it tonight and give a report, but i'm scared!!!!! I'm making japanese food for dinner, I dont think it makes a good pairing with malt liquor

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              1. re: bitsubeats
                Chinon00 RE: bitsubeats Oct 24, 2006 08:42 PM

                I'd really be interested in which Dogfish Head beers that you've tasted and which "way better beers" you've encountered in similar styles.

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                  JMF RE: Chinon00 Oct 24, 2006 08:56 PM

                  Ditto.

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                    Josh RE: JMF Oct 25, 2006 05:53 PM

                    Tritto (?)

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                      Brewnoser RE: Josh Oct 26, 2006 12:32 AM

                      Me too (or is that four?). Every single beer by them that I have had have been excellent. Recently has 90 Minute and Raisin D'Extra at our monthy brew club meeting. Still vibrating from that.

                  2. re: Chinon00
                    bitsubeats RE: Chinon00 Oct 24, 2006 09:21 PM

                    just the ipa's and a seasonal pumpkin one, its good to get when I am at the local grocery store. Massachusetts has this awful law where the liquor stores close at 11 every day except for sunday which closes at 8. However, my grocery store serves beer and wine till 11 on sunday, so if I am hankering for some beer I will definitely get the dogfish head.

                    I guess what I'm trying to say is it's not a bad beer, but if I had my choice of different beers then yes I would rather stick with those. I tend to drink belgians and would rather drink some instead. if I had to choose between one or the other. However I wouldn't just drink any belgian.

                    what do you mean by "which way better beers you've encountered in similar styles?" are you saying that I said I have had better malt liquor? I'm a bit confused (:

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                      Chinon00 RE: bitsubeats Oct 24, 2006 10:59 PM

                      No. When I asked "which way better beers you've encountered in similar styles" I wanted to be sure that you were comparing “apples to apples”. You prefer Belgian beer (is that right?). If that is true and that is your point of reference for “good beer” (which is fine) I think that it would be only fair to judge Dogfish Head by their Belgian style brew “Raison D’Etre” rather than their IPAs and pumpkin (which you’ve mentioned you’ve tried and which despite being ales are far different from Belgians). Have you tried it?

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                        bitsubeats RE: Chinon00 Oct 25, 2006 02:03 AM

                        I don't think I have had the raison d'etre, what would you compare it to and also how much does it usually cost?

                        I do prefer belgians, yes. When I said I've had way better beers, I meant in general...belgians mostly. I wasn't saying that Ive had a better malt liquor, because frankly I haven't had that crap since I was in highschool and back then I obviously wasn't drinking it for the taste (:

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                          Chinon00 RE: bitsubeats Oct 25, 2006 02:49 AM

                          I wouldn't want to give my opinion and bias you. The price is typical; $10 - $12 for a 6er. Just try it if you get the chance and get back to us.
                          I was just trying to emphasize the point that it's very important to compare "like to like" when discussing beer (or anything else for that matter). Would you care to share your Belgians (or other beers) of choice?

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                            brentk RE: Chinon00 Oct 25, 2006 10:24 AM

                            To my tastebuds, Dogfish Head struggles with its Belgian brews. I've tasted Raison D'Etra, Raison D'Extra and Pangaea and haven't liked any of them. Both of the Raisons suffered from an inability to mask the fusel alcohol and the Pangaea was grainy and harsh.

                            I respect Dogfish Head for its experimentation but I find the failures exceed the successes when it comes to my personal taste buds. I like their IPAs and Barleywines and the World Wide Stout but I approach everything else with trepidation.

                            I don't plan to bother with Liquor De Malt.

                            1. re: brentk
                              Chinon00 RE: brentk Oct 25, 2006 04:44 PM

                              I might agree with you on their more "experimental" stuff but if we're discussing their "bread and butter" brews (i.e. Chicory Stout, Indian Brown Ale, 90 Minute IPA, 60 Minute IPA, Shelter Pale Ale) comparing style to style with other breweries I can't objectively say that any would "blow them [Dogfish Head] away". For instance I might prefer Victory Hop Devil to Dogfish Head 60 Minute IPA but I certainly wouldn't call it settling or be disappointed.

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                              bitsubeats RE: Chinon00 Oct 25, 2006 10:09 PM

                              my boyfriend said he has never heard of it and he really sounds like he wants to try it out. I think we will give it a go this weekend though, thanks a bunch for the recommendation. Like me he enjoys belgians as well

                              here are some of the beers I enjoy:

                              westmalle tripel
                              rochefort 8
                              delerium tremens & their noel version
                              corsendonk
                              houblon chouffe

                              these are just off the top of my head.

                              so what kind of belgian is the raison d'etre?

                              1. re: bitsubeats
                                Chinon00 RE: bitsubeats Oct 26, 2006 01:23 AM

                                I believe that it's a Belgian (style) Strong Ale.

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                                  bitsubeats RE: Chinon00 Oct 26, 2006 01:28 AM

                                  I don't understand? dubbel? trippel? quadruppel? blonde?

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                                    Jim Dorsch RE: bitsubeats Oct 26, 2006 01:50 AM

                                    http://dogfish.com/brewings/Year_Roun...

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                                      brentk RE: bitsubeats Oct 26, 2006 02:03 AM

                                      It doesn't really fit a classic Belgian category. Its more of an American interpretation of a Belgian Style.

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                                        bitsubeats RE: brentk Oct 26, 2006 04:31 AM

                                        thanks for the link, jim

                                        it sounds heavenly, sounds like it would go well with a nice fall dinner here in new england

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                      LStaff RE: bitsubeats Oct 25, 2006 06:15 PM

                      Since you're being "objective":

                      Chicory Stout - Just about any craft brewed stout blows this one away - couple of examples - Ipswich oaty, Bar harbor Cadillac Mtn. stout

                      Indian brown ale - just need one example - Avery Ellies Brown

                      90 Minute - pick just about any west coast dipa - Pliney, Blue Dot, even Maharaja -or even from the east coast - Dreadnaught, Smutty Big A

                      60 minute - jeez the list of single IPA's that blow this one away is gigantic. Smutty IPA, Two Hearted, alpha king, Racer 5

                      Shelter Pale Ale - again too many to mention - Dale's Pale Ale, Smutty Shoals are but two

                      I always felt the beers from DFH were just mediocre but got alot of attention because they were one of the first on the east coast, get more exposure to craft beer newbies who don't have the exposure to many other craft breweries, and brewed beer with big flavor and alcohol content. Bigger isn't always better though. I find most DFH beer missing a cohesive theme between all the flavors.

                      So you may be reading this and say, no way - my point is - you can't objectively say anything about something so subjective.

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                      1. re: LStaff
                        Josh RE: LStaff Oct 25, 2006 06:22 PM

                        Interesting perspective. I'm not the hugest fan of DFH, either, though I think Aprihop is a great beer. While there are other beers I prefer to DFH, I think they are an important part of craft brewing.

                        1. re: LStaff
                          Chinon00 RE: LStaff Oct 26, 2006 01:58 AM

                          I disagree that Dogfish Head beers across the board are "just mediocre". One may subjectively prefer another beer to a Dogfish Head product for whatever reason. Or, using a set of objective criteria, one may judge a beer to be better than a Dogfish Head product. I don't believe however that judging in particular their Indian Brown Ale, 60 Minute, 90 Minute, (and Pumpkin Ale which is a personal favorite of mine) on their own merits that any reasonable person could conclude that he/she is drinking just mediocre beer.

                        2. bitsubeats RE: bitsubeats Oct 25, 2006 10:31 PM

                          Bitsubeats' BF checking in, hey all. This does not taste like any malt liquor I have ever had. This may sound crazy but it tastes a little like a Belgian brown ale that I had before. Its name escapes me right now. It doesn't remind me a bit of my 40 of choice back in high school, Heffenreffer.

                          It's worth trying but I don't think I'd get it again.

                          P.S. I'm not sure where any of you guys live but I bought it at Blanchard's in Marshfield, MA (South Shore). I haven't seen in any packies in any of the places I usually go in Boston. Oh, packy=liquor/beer store for you out-of-staters.

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