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  <id>335967</id>
  <title>Pegu Club, Milk and Honey - any others?</title>
  <published_at>Sat Oct 21 03:53:30 -0700 2006</published_at>
  <post_count>25</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>18</id>
    <name>Manhattan</name>
  </board>
  <posts>
    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>1962091</id>
        <content>Are there any other places in Manhattan that do the quality of cocktails as Pegu Club and Milk and Honey?</content>
        <published_at>Sat Oct 21 03:53:30 -0700 2006</published_at>
        <parent_id></parent_id>
        <user>
          <id>17695</id>
          <name>ems</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1962260</id>
      <content>Plenty.  Flatiron Lounge and Little Branch, East Side Co. Bar (the latter 2 have the same owners as M&amp;H).</content>
      <published_at>Sat Oct 21 06:02:56 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1962091</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10216</id>
        <name>Lucia</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1962544</id>
      <content>add employees only to that group.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Oct 21 15:06:21 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1962260</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11372</id>
        <name>mrnyc</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1962562</id>
      <content>I had no idea that M&amp;H's owner had two other bars.  Learn something new every day on CH ;)  How do they compare?  I love M&amp;H but it can sometimes be a hassle to get in when you havent planned.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Oct 21 15:21:42 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1962260</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10971</id>
        <name>Nehna</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1962578</id>
      <content>I haven't been to M&amp;H, so I can't compare.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Oct 21 15:33:36 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1962562</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10216</id>
        <name>Lucia</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1965758</id>
      <content>Haven't been to Long Branch but east side is much different than M&amp;H.  East Side has the same speak easy type entrance but the vibe is much more relaxed.  You also don't get the same level of service - you order from the menu and don't get the invetiveness that you get at M&amp;H.  Cocktails are good but it's a different experience.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Oct 23 15:23:38 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1962562</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12472</id>
        <name>wingman</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1962479</id>
      <content>Bar Masa has seasonal fresh fruit cocktails.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Oct 21 14:09:26 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1962091</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>22264</id>
        <name>baconstrip</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1962550</id>
      <content>Add Temple Bar in Noho</content>
      <published_at>Sat Oct 21 15:14:39 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1962091</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10971</id>
        <name>Nehna</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1962727</id>
      <content>Thanks.  I'm about to go through the process of trying to get into Milk and Honey.  I will be in NYC on Monday for a quick business trip and am hoping to go there on Monday evening.  I have a phone number.  Any words of wisdom?</content>
      <published_at>Sat Oct 21 17:10:57 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1962091</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17695</id>
        <name>ems</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1962802</id>
      <content>Well you can only book a reservation a) the day before and b) if you plan to get there by 10pm.  So my advice to you is plan to get there before 10 and call the day before (they open at 9).

If you plan to go after 10, its just luck of the draw if they have a table available when you call a half hour before you want to drop in.  If you're willing to sit at the bar, that can help too (I actually prefer to sit at the bar, its fun to watch them work there and to admire the 3 different types of ice, etc).

I would think Monday wouldnt be too hard though at any time.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Oct 21 18:08:05 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1962727</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10971</id>
        <name>Nehna</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1963629</id>
      <content>add...pravda, double 7, bette, tasting room, town and country to your list of fresh and correctly made cocktails</content>
      <published_at>Sun Oct 22 04:23:29 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1962091</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>22786</id>
        <name>hardcore</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1965829</id>
      <content>How do the places listed compare on price?</content>
      <published_at>Mon Oct 23 15:49:41 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1962091</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>15175</id>
        <name>Produce Addict</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2042538</id>
      <content>Angel's Share.
I love that place.  

8 Stuyvesant St. (one street north of St. Mark's Place)
2nd floor 
just east of 3rd avenue
212-777-5415

Pegu Club, Employees Only, Milk and Honey, and East Side Company are all great and have already been recommended.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 22 20:53:41 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1962091</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13169</id>
        <name>Andrew P.</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2042565</id>
      <content>Agreed on Angel's Share--what a great, hidden gem.

(Don't bring more than 4 people, and wait for them to seat you.)</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 22 21:06:02 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>2042538</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>21820</id>
        <name>Kanger</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2237856</id>
      <content>third Angel's Share.  You have to wait to be seated.  It will be worth the wait.  It's the best place to find out what classic cocktails are supposed to taste like--they make them impeccably.  Also nice for fun drinks made with Japanese flavors like yuzu and shiso.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jan 29 08:37:16 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2042565</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16728</id>
        <name>kenito799</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>2238250</id>
      <content>Yeah, but the attitude can be a night killer. If you look like you're under 25, be prepared to run up against snobbery and rudeness the likes of which you've never seen before.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jan 29 10:02:07 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2237856</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>14736</id>
        <name>MBShapiro</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>2238429</id>
      <content>that's funny, I was going to add to my post that I have NOT experienced attitude at AS, as I am wary about having to deal with attitude at some of the other spots mentioned.  The only attitude was from the guy atthe front trying to deal with people who weren't "getting" that you have to wait to be seated.  </content>
      <published_at>Mon Jan 29 10:40:14 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2238250</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16728</id>
        <name>kenito799</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>6</level>
      <id>2244132</id>
      <content>I was shocked as anyone because I had only heard such great things about the place. We were all too willing to wait to be sat, but the bartender told us that we couldn't wait, and that he wasn't going to ask us to leave, but "it would be better for everyone" if we did. I was really put off with that attitude, and I really don't think I'll ever go back because of it.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 30 21:20:36 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2238429</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>14736</id>
        <name>MBShapiro</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>7</level>
      <id>2245168</id>
      <content>fair enough...that doesnt sound nice at all, but it is surprising, I have been there numerous times and never encountered behavior like that from anyone there.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 31 09:00:17 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2244132</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16728</id>
        <name>kenito799</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2042594</id>
      <content>Try an Angel's Kiss at Angel's Share (gin and apricot? really?).  Also try Mas' bar in the West Village.  Handmade, handsqueezed everything and oysters and you can reserve to dine there in advance.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 22 21:20:07 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1962091</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>55035</id>
        <name>beckycheck</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2045571</id>
      <content>Can someone help with the new number for Milk and Honey? Frustratingly, they've changed it and the one in my phone no longer works!</content>
      <published_at>Fri Nov 24 23:44:38 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1962091</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>14461</id>
        <name>Maxwell</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2236783</id>
      <content>double 7 is closed, at least temporarily...
sachas west village joint is little branch not long branch
others for the list:
death and co. 
blue owl (the back room is particularly great for parties)</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jan 28 20:12:35 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>1962091</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>26358</id>
        <name>scanditrash</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2237875</id>
      <content>Brandy Library in Tribeca should be on that list.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jan 29 08:41:02 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>1962091</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>64404</id>
        <name>downtownstefanie</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2238607</id>
      <content>I echo the opinions on Angels Share.  I only recall professionalism there - No 'tudes. 

I had a bad experience at East Side Co. - I was there for my birthday last year (mid jan).  It was a cute enough space, alright, but all of my guest were FREEZING.  We left our hats and coats on, which was not comfortable.  The little portable space heaters they had there were no consolation.  Perhaps they have the HVAC in better order now?</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jan 29 11:20:59 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>1962091</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>53427</id>
        <name>kayonyc</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2238761</id>
      <content>Bemelman's in the Carlyle (sp?) hotel. It's very old-school--not trendy like Pugu, Flatiron, and most of the downtown places--but they have excellent cocktails. In fact, Audrey Sanders, owner of Pegu, used to work there. 

--Sarah
http://www.avenuefood.com</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jan 29 11:51:38 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>1962091</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>26138</id>
        <name>slynnkiino</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2980863</id>
      <content>I'll second Bemelman's.  The atmosphere and service are strictly what I'd consider Old New York (and that's a good thing), but they have some house cocktails with a very modern sensibility - I'm thinking of the Gin-Gin Mule and especially of the Agavarita, or whatever they call it, essentially a mild margarita with an egg in it.  The latter's not the best thing on the menu, but it feels decidedly new-school to me (again, not necessarily a bad thing in terms of cocktails - it beats a port flip).</content>
      <published_at>Wed Sep 26 23:46:32 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2238761</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>72018</id>
        <name>ratatosk</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
</topic>
