334587 Mon Oct 16 20:04:24 -0700 2006 5 18 Manhattan 0 1949542 I'll be heading to Bouley Friday with my GF and was looking for somewhere really nice, chill and relaxed for a pre-meal drink. We'll be dressed up so something hot but loungey would be best I think. I was thinking about Rise Bar @ Ritz-Carlton, Thom's Bar @ 60 Thompson Hotel or Grand Bar & Lounge @ Soho Grand. Anyone have any thoughts on these three spots? A clear winner? Etc... Thank you all! Mon Oct 16 20:04:24 -0700 2006 42087 catzeem 1 1949573 Brandy Library. Mon Oct 16 20:14:20 -0700 2006 1949542 24925 chow_gal 2 1951414 I second Brandy Library Tue Oct 17 14:16:33 -0700 2006 1949573 21928 Hungry Esquire 1 1949663 Or Bubble Lounge. Mon Oct 16 20:38:28 -0700 2006 1949542 10475 Wilfrid 1 1950763 I think Rise is pretty unparalleled, given the view. It's definitely better than the other 2 you mentioned. Tue Oct 17 03:11:23 -0700 2006 1949542 12859 jonasblank 1 1951567 Brandy Library is by far the best damn choice for a nice drink before Bouley. Enjoy...Ethan is the man when it comes to Scotch. Tue Oct 17 15:14:20 -0700 2006 1949542 14393 sam1