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eve Oct 16, 2006 04:39 AM

What do you (try to) refrain (and occasionally "cheat") from eating or drinking that you absolutely love to have but can't because of an allergy, reaction, illness, bad memory, bad association or something of that vein?

For me, I love pork and spare ribs but I gave it up for religious observances. Also love fruit drinks, particularly apple juice based ones but I have some sort of allergic reaction (hard to breath kind)a few minutes after drinking. Love coffee but restrict to one cup a week--tend to get a migraine if I drink too often.

Once had a horrendous 24hr stomach virus and thought I was recovered until I ate popcorn a few days later at the movies. I haven't really been able to enjoy popcorn since.

What's your "poison"?

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    ali patts Oct 16, 2006 12:21 PM

    Corn crackerbread, orangina, batter (covered fish fingers and onion rings - as opposed to breadcrumbed ones) *homemade batter is fine)

    Of which the first two are the ones I miss then sneak, and every time full torso (including back) itchy rash. My money is on additives because let's face it, they're all fairly plastic!

    1. Michele4466 Oct 16, 2006 01:00 PM

      Fried chicken... will NEVER be able to eat it again! About four months ago in my 4 or 5th month of pregnancy, I had a craving... Got so violently ill that I will NEVER be able to even look at it again... I think my little boy has been showing me pre-natally that he likes healthier foods... been pretty much stuck to that way of eating throughout...

      It is too bad because, though extremely fattening, it is (was) a great "cheat". Bisquits, gravy, mashed...YUM!

      Also, gin...cannot smell it, let alone drink it... high school memories LOL

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        susancinsf Oct 17, 2006 04:00 PM

        Fried chicken, especially something like Popeye's or KFC, also makes my husband violently, violently ill. I thought he was kidding when he used to tell me we really didn't want to make a roadtrip stop at one of those places, until the day I convinced him it must have been a one time thing and wouldn't happen again...a mistake I won't make twice!

        It is sad, because fried chicken is a favorite guilty pleasure of mine. Indeed, one of the finest meals I can ever remember eating centered around fried chicken (hubby wasn't in the picture then...)

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          Michele4466 Oct 22, 2006 02:04 PM

          I feel your pain...I am not sure if I will be about to try it again after the baby comes (the incident was a bit scary for me) but I am hopeful. It is truly a tremendous loss, we love a good splurge on fried chicken...

          And to laur76...I would not even attempt it again. LOL Not worth it (I am a martini and wine girl now - when not pregnant) like the above mentioned vice!

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          laur76 Oct 21, 2006 08:23 PM

          definately STILL have those gin, highschool memories.. can't be near it.

        3. Deenso Oct 16, 2006 01:23 PM

          Well, this isn't my story, but my husband's. When he was a kid, back in the late 50s, he was sent by his mom to the bakery to buy a dozen charlotte russes for dessert. Apparently easily distracted from the mission at hand, he loitered the afternoon away after picking them up and, over the course of the next hour or so, ate every single one of them. He was appropriately - and deservedly - sick as a result and has, to this day, never eaten another charlotte russe. He actually pales if anyone mentions them.

          1. toodie jane Oct 16, 2006 03:08 PM

            greasy chinese food or battered fried food.

            turns out I have a bit of IBS "sensitive pipes" syndrome. Most everyone does.

            To this day I can't eat oily food--ick.

            alli patts--are you alergic to corn perhaps?

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              ali patts Oct 16, 2006 03:46 PM

              nope, can eat corn tortillas fine, along with corn (maize) flours, no problem at all so I don't think it's that.

            2. sivyaleah Oct 16, 2006 03:11 PM

              Red jello with whipped cream. Since I was a kid. I had a high fever and my mom gave the jello to me, with the whipped cream on top At that moment, I must have had the fever spike, and something tipped me over the edge as she served me this desert which made it very unappealing and sickening.

              To this day - there is something about that particular color combination which makes me instantly woozy. I love all red jellos and love whipped cream but NOT together!

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                silence9 Oct 16, 2006 03:48 PM

                This is a big one (loss-wise) for me: sushi and raw oysters. Loved 'em both, till I ate them on the same weekend in 1991. Got violently ill for 7 days and could only hold down water administered by the teaspoon for the entire time I was sick. Never able to discern whether the offending agent was the sushi or the oysters. The aversion to that level of illness (an 11, on a scale of 1-to-10) is so strong that I dare not chance ever eating either one again... I cannot tell you how melancholy and, yes, envious I become when I hear posters here regaling the forums with tales of the most sublime and fresh sushi/sashimi and oysters. Knowing that I will never get to experience the 40+ course menu at Urasawa here in Los Angeles is a bitter pill to swallow, for an otherwise adventurous chowhound :-(. After the first couple of years without sushi and raw oysters, I wanted to warn everyone personally to never eat raw fish and shellfish again, lest they succumb to my fate. Then I realized that mine was a very small minority reaction, so now I just keep my mouth shut. To all of you who can still enjoy these treats from the sea, please knock back a few oyster shooters for me, then scrape together the $250 per person and head over to Urasawa for the experience of a lifetime! I am happy for you...

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                  janetofreno Oct 17, 2006 04:40 PM

                  I have noticed difficulty with sushi lately. I'm not sure if its just the quality of fish usually available around here or if its the rawness or what. I can eat sushi, but I have to be very careful. The rolls tend to do me in. Nigiri sushi is fine, as is "sushi" made without fish (such as a tempura veggie roll, or a cucumber roll). The last few times I tried something like a california roll or one of those godzilla rolls or whatever they call the things with several types of fish that my kids love I was very sick. Maybe I do ok with the nigiri because if the fish wasn't perfectly fresh I would be able to tell, and would stop after one bite. Maybe all the flavorings on those monster roll things do me in.

                  Tonight is my son's birthday, so we are of course going for sushi (its a birthday tradition for my kids). I plan on sticking to either cooked items or nigiri. I will NOT let them talk me into a roll! The big difference about tonight is that it is said son's 21st birthday (hard to believe!) and he wants to drink beer with sushi. He is so happy that he can finally order a beer in the sushi place....he even asked me to drive!

                  Oh, and about oysters: I have been told that the old saying about not eating them in months without an R is bs, as they are farmed and therefore safe year round. But my husband once ate oysters in August at a (good) steakhouse in Las Vegas, and was so ill he couldn't get on the airplane the next day. Since then he refuses to let me order oysters in summer. Fortunately, he will still eat them during the winter months <bg>

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                    Glencora Oct 17, 2006 06:17 PM

                    That's interesting. I became very sick from a spicy tuna roll and I haven't had sushi since. But it's true, I never got sick from Nigri sushi. Maybe I'll give it another try. Thanks!

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                      Humbucker Oct 18, 2006 03:22 AM

                      The fish used to make spicy tuna rolls, negi hama maki, etc. is the scraps that are too small or not attractive enough to make into nigiri. Often, it's fine to eat, but I imagine at lesser establishments it will be fish that is less fresh.

                2. a_and_w Oct 16, 2006 04:09 PM

                  Cucumbers. I never loved them, but I certainly didn't mind them. Then I visited the then-USSR for several months. Ate some of the most vile food imaginable (deep-fried cabbage for breakfast, lard shish-kebabs for lunch, etc.). The one fresh vegetable we had consistently at every meal was cucumbers. As a result, I now associate cucumbers with bad food and will not eat them unless they are pickled beyond recognition.

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                    susancinsf Oct 17, 2006 03:57 PM

                    Perhaps I am really sick, but I think deep fried cabbage sounds quite good! :-)

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                    kewpie Oct 16, 2006 08:03 PM

                    silence9! LOL! not at your illness but for your wishes for all of us eating all the oyster and sushi we can shove into our pie-holes --i toast you thank you

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                      silence9 Oct 16, 2006 09:33 PM

                      Hi... You're very welcome! Years after the incident, I really do enjoy watching others slurp down oysters and swoon at melt-in-your-mouth sashimi. Let's celebrate everyone's happiness, in all things great and small...

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                      pcwd Oct 16, 2006 09:00 PM

                      Lots of them. Lactose bothers me, and even the pills don't help with milk shakes, which are my favorite. And corn also sets off my stomach, but if it smells good, I'll have it anyway and deal with the pain later. As I tell people, "I love corn but corn doesn't love me back."

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                        SuzMiCo Oct 16, 2006 09:45 PM

                        Doritos - after I devoured three huge bags over the course of three days while studying for exams in college I couldn't look at them for years. Now, every once in a while, I'll have a small bag, but it always brings me back to that horrible exam period.

                        I'm better off without them anyway.

                        1. Glencora Oct 16, 2006 09:47 PM

                          Maple syrup gives me a stomachache. Does this happen to anyone else? It's not too bad, though, and I still indulge in pancakes with syrup a couple of times a year.

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                            silence9 Oct 16, 2006 10:00 PM

                            Glencora: I've got a theory. Could it be the pancakes and NOT the syrup?? I used to get queasy when very hot (right off the griddle) pancakes were introduced to my stomach. The pancake dough, sometimes just barely cooked, would kinda inflate in my gut. Ever get sick from _just_ maple syrup by itself or on other foodstuffs? Try syrup separately; then try pancakes separately...

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                              Glencora Oct 17, 2006 12:27 AM

                              Thanks, I'll do that. (Don't like the idea of things inflating in my stomach!)

                          2. rcheng Oct 17, 2006 01:13 AM

                            Hazelnuts. I'm mildly allergic to them, but everyone once in awhile I'll deal with the discomfort for some desserts that have hazelnuts in them.

                            I also have a tough time digesting steak, but I do love the occasional steak, but I pay for it later.

                            1. applehome Oct 17, 2006 05:05 AM

                              As a diabetic - virtually any food made mainly from refined sugar/starch from Krispy Kremes to Pasta. Even my beloved bowl of rice is rationed... Yes, I can take some extra insulin - but that's not the way to do this. I am satisfying myself with one bite here and there. But it's an awful thing to do to get my wife to order something she didn't want, just so I can have a bite - please, pretty please, get the cheesecake/key lime pie/carrot cake/profiteroles/sambuca...

                              1. krissywats Oct 17, 2006 09:52 AM

                                That's so interesting about apple based juices - you are the only other person I've heard say that. I cannot drink apple cider (non-alcoholic kind) because it gives me migraines. I haven't been able to nail down what it is. Glad to know it's not just me.

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                                  eve Oct 17, 2006 01:19 PM

                                  Nice to know we are not alone. Thanks for posting.

                                2. coll Oct 17, 2006 11:51 AM

                                  My mother just told me that she doesn't eat tomatoes anymore because it causes "geographic tongue" due to allergies. I have it too, and my dentist had told me it was something to do with vitamin C, but I never remembered if it was a deficiency or what. Anyway, I told her that not eating tomatoes is NOT an option around my house, guess I'll just refrain from sticking my tongue out!
                                  Also apple juice and cider used to give me stomach pains, although it doesn't bother me so much as I get older. Actaully a lot of things did, like onions, fresh garlic, beans, I could go on and on; there are some good things about getting older and one of them is, my digestion of these has improved dramatically. Maybe it was all the Beano I took these past years!

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                                    meb903 Oct 17, 2006 04:11 PM

                                    when i was a kid, i had many sore throats & tonsilitis- my mother gave me apricot nectar to soothe my throad - i have not been able to eat it since because the smell of it reminds me of those horrible sore throats and swollen tonsils. also, about 30 years ago, i ate falafel from a street vendor on Madison Avenue in NYC and got food poisoning - was in the bathroom for 3 days. I've never had falafel since - just the thought of it makes me feel queasy!

                                    1. janetofreno Oct 17, 2006 04:51 PM

                                      lol....we are planning a trip to North Africa this winter. My son is nervous about the food. His days of picky eating are over, however, he got a bad case of food poisoning this summer when he ate some couscous from an (unauthorized) vendor at the Bonnaroo rock festival in Tennessee....almost ruined his trip. So now he associates couscous with being sick. I keep trying to tell him that freshly made couscous will be fine; its a lot different than eating something that had probably been sitting out in the warm Tennessee sun for hours......

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                                        rHairing Oct 17, 2006 05:02 PM

                                        I have developed an allergy to chocolate...sigh...so occasionally i will "pick my battles" and eat it but it has to be damn fine chocolate and I eat it knowing my stomach will be upset and the little bumps on my fingers are going to appear..

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                                          btnfood Oct 17, 2006 05:15 PM

                                          My favorite fruit is the luscious mango, but I've recently developed some type of allergy that causes me to itch and break out when I even touch the flesh. In catering culinary events, I've been seeing more people take cauton as well, and have backed away from including it on fruit platters.

                                          I've learned (the hard way) that mangoes are also present in a lot of packaged and freshly made smoothies, even if not they are not mentioned in the name. I don't chance juice bar smoothies anymore as I'm afraid the blender may not have been thoroughly washed.

                                          I believe the mango is one of our most perfect fruits, but there's no point in looking back.

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                                            sivyaleah Oct 17, 2006 06:30 PM

                                            It's not "some" type of allergy - it is one. The mango is in the same exact family as Poison Ivy - the sumacs. The skin of it is full of the oil and unfortunately, it can bleed off into the flesh if not carefully peeled. Not everyone has this reaction - just us lucky ones.

                                            I suffer from the same problem. I had pretty much forgotten about it until a few months back when mysterious hives appeared on 1 side of my face. For years, I have let others take care of peeling the fruit for me and always made sure to use a utensil if I was eating the fruit whole because I had found out about this while living in Florida many years ago, after 1 summer of gorging myself on a neighbor's mango tree and walking around with a perpetual rash around my mouth all summer.

                                            Anyway, back to now. A couple of days later, I remembered eating some mango, sans fork (which I normally use) and must have brushed my fingers across my cheek. Lo and behold - the rash which took weeks to disappear - just like good old poison ivy.

                                            I feel your pain - it's one of my favorite fruits and now, I'm avoiding it even in my beloved lassis!

                                          2. janetofreno Oct 17, 2006 07:28 PM

                                            My husband, the mango expert, claims that this reaction only occurs if you come into contact with the peel of an UNRIPE mango. He says that the poison goes away as they ripen. I don't know if its true or not, but my sons girlfriend was recently reluctant to eat a mango because she had had the reaction. He gave her a very ripe mango and she was fine. Of course, it WAS carefully peeled....so maybe just doing that is all you need to do. Smoothies made somewhere may not have been as carefully peeled as you would do at home.

                                            He says that when he was a boy in India he used to climb their tree and eat the (unripe) mangoes. He would break out all the time. He didn't let it stop him from eating mangoes, however....

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                                              sivyaleah Oct 17, 2006 09:31 PM

                                              That just can't be correct. Those mangos I was eating off the tree in Florida were dripping ripe and all the mangos I've eaten since certainly have been ripe as well. An unripe mango tastes like turpentine, what enjoyment would one receive eating one?

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                                                susancinsf Oct 17, 2006 10:54 PM

                                                have no idea if the theory is correct or no, but in partial response to your question: I've been served plenty of not quite ripe mangos in my time...indeed, I would go so far as to say that many folks have probably never even had the pleasure of a truly ripe mango, if the stuff I've been served in some restaurants is any indication...(not that I am doubting that the ones you've eaten off the tree were ripe)

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                                                  sivyaleah Oct 17, 2006 11:12 PM

                                                  Well, I'd agree with you on that point - that's why I don't get mango in restaurants. And yes, fresh off the neighbor's tree was heaven :-)

                                            2. janetofreno Oct 18, 2006 04:01 AM

                                              Hey, I said it was a THEORY about the unripe mango peel. And I should have described hubby as a "self-proclaimed" mango expert. Personally, I think its the peel that causes the reaction, ripe or no......Also, there are a lot of different types of mangoes, so maybe its only certain ones.....

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                                                cooknKate Oct 21, 2006 08:05 PM

                                                I love citrus fruits but get terrible flare ups in my mouth because of the acidity. I could devour 2 or 3 grapefruits and several oranges but now have to avoid them like the plague. I also love fresh squeezed OJ and can't even drink that.

                                                I can eat tomatoes but peeling and deseeding them makes my hands burn from the acid, and if I am not careful they can wreak havoc on my stomach, but I will still eat them.

                                                I had food poisoning over 20 years ago from eating shrimp, and still to this day cannot eat much more than one piece of it. I also got a terrible flu bug after eating popcorn, and it took me a long time to eat that again, but I did because I LOVE popcorn! Even so, the first time was really hard.

                                                1. gridder Oct 22, 2006 03:51 AM

                                                  Porcini mushrooms. Had a bad reaction one time when hubby made something with them and I though it was b/c he hadn't rinsed them thoroughly. Then when I was pregnant I made a risotto with them and had a terrible night. It was so scary b/c I was pregnant. And you know what? I love the darn things. I'm afraid to do it again.

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                                                    calpurnia Oct 22, 2006 02:54 PM

                                                    I can't drink red wine or eat anything that has been prepared with it. I get violently ill and it all comes back to me even when I hear the description of the bouquet.

                                                    It isn't the alcohol but the tannins from what I understand.

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