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yeshana Oct 12, 2006 03:50 PM

16 of us are meeting for thanksgiving weekend. we need a private room with a traditional whole turkey and fixins for the day of thanksgiving. we like to take home leftovers and carve the turkey ourselves. in the past, we have brought our own wine and pay corkage fees. we're from ny so we don't know where to start. the resort we're staying at doesn't have a private room. please HELP! we have done this all around the country without problems in past years. scottsdale is stumping us!

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    Sherri Oct 15, 2006 08:41 PM

    Have you tried the Arizona Biltmore? There is a small private room, adjacent to the main dining room, with access to the wine cellar. I have not been there since the remodel but would expect that this special room has not changed.

    T. Cooks also has a private room, off a small patio, not far from the main dining room.

    NB: neither of these are in Scottsdale, both in Phoenix and not in seedy neighborhoods.

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      yeshana Nov 18, 2006 01:13 PM

      sherri,
      thanks so much for your arizona biltmore ref. we are going there for thanksgiving! it was difficult to convince the chef to honor our requests for a whole turkey, etc. without him chrging an outrageous price. we did negotiate andit's fine now.
      also spoke with the ritz carlton- they were wonderful to work with but finally chose the biltmore becuase of cousin's choice.
      i'll let you know although i expect a wonderful experience!

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        Sherri Nov 18, 2006 04:41 PM

        Yeshana, glad that it worked for you. Take some extra time to explore the gardens and hotel itself. Much lovelier than the Ritz which says "hotel" while the AZ Biltmore is one of a kind. Moving a group of 16 from place to place can be tough, but I also highly recommend strolling the grounds of the Royal Palms, even if you opt not to dine at T.Cooks. The distance is not great from the Biltmore and the reward is more than worth it. Both these properties, while very different from each other, represent the best of "Old Phoenix". Hope that you have a lovely Thanksgiving -- welcome to Arizona!

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          yeshana Nov 19, 2006 04:52 PM

          OK SHERRI,
          NOW THAT YOU'VE BEEN A GREAT RECOURCE, I'LL ASK MORE.
          ANY GOOD LUNCH PLACES THAT ARE NOT TOO NOISY, CRAZY- JUST FOR A GOOD SANDWHICH /SALAD- IF IT'S WARM TEMP. OUTSIDE CAFE'S MAY BE MORE QUIET. MY FATHER IS HEARING IMPAIRED AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO FIND PLACES TO GO WHERE HE WON'T FEEL FRUSTRATED. ALL TYPES OF FOOD ARE FINE- ETHNIC OR AMERICAN- JUST CASUAL, THOUGH. THANKS! WE LEAVE ny TUESDAY.

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            Sherri Nov 19, 2006 09:30 PM

            Pack your sunscreen! It's warm here right now and perfect for that outdoor picnic lunch you want.

            The first place that comes to mind is in a distinctly seedy neighborhood (!!!) but is such a treat that maybe the Ohio contingent might forgive it. The Phoenix Ranch Market, 16th St. and Roosevelt has a new restaurant, Tradiciones, with outdoor patio. This is as close as you can get to Mexico without crossing the border. It will mean driving from your Scottsdale hotel, but worth every mile of the ride. Yes, it is part of a grocery store but that should not put you off. Visit the store after lunch for a special treat - you won't see the likes of Phoenix Ranch Market elsewhere.

            At the opposite end of the spectrum is Chelsea's Kitchen and La Grande Orange - both close to the Camelback Corridor and Phoenix-Scottsdale border. Pretty patio at Chelsea's Kitchen and large servings make this a favorite. La Grande Orange is not to be sneezed at either. Eat outdoors at either spot.

            The Desert Botanical Garden is a pretty spot to visit at this time of year. I believe that Arcadia Farms does the outdoor cafe lunches there. All ages can enjoy this spot, even learning a few things about early settlers in AZ.

            The Tortilla Factory, in Scottsdale, has a pretty patio for outdoor meals. I'm not as knocked out with the food as I could be, but its central location is a "plus". Also in Scdle is Arcadia Farms with patio dining and lots of sandwich-salad choices that would provide what you're seeking.

            If you want to pack a lunch and head off on your own, stop at Duck & Decanter for a picnic -- or maybe your own hotel can provide this........

            Why don't you post a separate query about this outdoor lunch request on the SOUTHWEST board? I'll wager that there will be lots of answers that I'm not thinking of this minute. Be sure to provide information about your location, willingness to drive, etc. This is a pretty widespread geographic area.

            Happy Thanksgiving!

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      veggie Oct 12, 2006 05:10 PM

      I believe Havana Cafe does a Thanksgiving dinner - if you're ok with a Cuban twist :)

      http://www.havanacafe-az.com

      Their Scottsdale location is on the south side of Bell/Frank Lloyd Wright, a bit west of Scottsdale Rd.

      They are not BYOB but might possibly have a private room available.

      1. silverbear Oct 12, 2006 05:02 PM

        The major resort restaurants will of course be open on Thanksgiving, but I don't think any would be willing to allow you to bring your own wine. In fact, I'm not even sure if it's legal under Arizona law to allow BYOB when an establishment has a liquor license. Generally, restaurants here either serve alcohol or allow BYOB, but not both.

        One possibility might be Coup des Tartes, a BYOB restaurant that has a private room available for booking. The private room is called Rendez-Vous:

        http://www.nicetartes.com/

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          silverbear Oct 12, 2006 07:54 PM

          I almost forgot. Atlas Bistro is also BYOB, although I don't know if there is a private room. The bigger question is if your group of 16 will be a big enough event to justify keeping the restaurant open on Thanksgiving.

          http://www.atlasbistro.com/

          By the way, I did a little more checking, and Arizona law definitely forbids restaurants with a liquor license from allowing alcohol to be brought in from the outside. As a result, your options will be limited: Either eat at a restaurant that is open on Thanksgiving and forgo the BYOB -- or -- See if one of the BYOB establishments mentioned above will prepare a Thanksgiving dinner for your group.

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            yeshana Oct 12, 2006 08:15 PM

            thanks for the quick responses, i'll look into these. BYOB is not the priority, having a private room and a family style(whole turkey, etc) dinner, is really important- restaurant wine selections are fine with us- just nicer to find great wine matches ourselves.

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              silverbear Oct 12, 2006 08:18 PM

              In that case, I would also check with the major resorts in Scottsdale, Paradise Valley, and the east side of Phoenix. Some should have a private dining room that can accomodate 16.

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              yeshana Oct 15, 2006 08:30 PM

              hey,
              atlas may give us the restaurant and what we want. lon's will give us a room but regular thnksgiving menu. my snobbish, east coast transplanted to ohio,(of all places) ,cousins, have researched the area and are claiming that atlas is in a "seedy" neighborhood. being from new york- i don't consider neighborhoods by anything but their food options, but, i must try to please all 16 involved. what is the neighborhood at atlas like? thanks!

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                johnseberg Oct 15, 2006 09:02 PM

                That neighborhood is a little seedy for Puritans. It doesn't bother me a bit. I would walk up and down that stretch of Scottsdale Rd any hour of the day - any day of the year. But, there is a larger share of strip clubs, massage parlors, and cheap rooms for rent.

                Tell your cousin there is an Olive Garden and a Red Lobster just a mile up the road, and see if that makes him feel better. I can think of two "Best of Phoenix" restaurants in this neighborhood in Los Sombreros and Udupi.

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                  silverbear Oct 15, 2006 09:08 PM

                  It sounds like your cousins are overthinking things. The neighborhood is not upscale like the central and northern parts of Scottsdale, but I wouldn't fear crime there. Any "seediness" is probably from the less prestigious businesses described in johnseberg's post and not any real danger of violence. Keep in mind that you are probably going to park right in front of the restaurant and walk directly inside. It's not as if you'll have to park blocks away and walk down deserted alleys.

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