332119 Fri Oct 06 23:37:54 -0700 2006 18 33 Food Media and News 0 1928947 Team Awesome: Mario Alton All original japanese iron chefs (except italian) The Ham on the Street Guy's big bite guy Team Sucko: Paula "marshmallo and mayo sandwich anyone?" Deen Mark "double dare" Summers Emeril (duh) Rachel "everything is 'mmmmm'" Ray Sandra "dung on a bun" Lee Cat "wow, i'm an iron chef?" Cora what's your list? Fri Oct 06 23:37:54 -0700 2006 25120 mr_fro2000 1 1928968 Having eaten at Cat Cora's restaurant and taken a cooking lesson from her, I really respect her culinary skills. The food that she cooked at Postino, her restaurant near San Francisco, was really, really delicious. Fri Oct 06 23:46:57 -0700 2006 1928947 10644 Nancy Berry 1 1929705 I still haven't seen Guy's show (no real interest), but I really can't take much of Ham on the Street. No real content, more about "entertainment" in a style that doesn't work for me. Did this Duran guy *really* have a show in France like his opener says??!! Sadly, I don't find much "awesome" on the network anymore. There are some shows that are decent/tolerable, but they don't really teach like they once did. Alton is the only one that goes into any depth. I don't count Mario because he's cancelled and I haven't seen his show in forever. The American Iron Chefs (aside from Morimoto) don't have nearly the range or finesse that the Japanese did. Their prime time evening "way more than cooking" line up makes me cringe... I'll stick to PBS, but I really wish that someone would start a competing food-related network w/ better content. Anyone? Sat Oct 07 15:23:40 -0700 2006 1928947 10371 Carb Lover 2 1930007 It's called PBS Satellite. Sat Oct 07 18:55:47 -0700 2006 1929705 11369 Robert Lauriston 3 1930011 With food shows all the time? Sat Oct 07 19:01:38 -0700 2006 1930007 10371 Carb Lover 4 1930647 We have a digital cable channel in Boston that is all PBS cooking and How-to shows. Lidia's Family Table is on all night tonight. There are also travel shows (Rick Steeves) and This Old House, sewing, quilting, etc. In my area it is WGBXDT3, channel 237. Sun Oct 08 03:51:13 -0700 2006 1930011 15882 PrincessBakesALot 1 1930749 You might want to append to this thread instead, same subject: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/show/319526 BTW the above PBS channel is called CreateTV, only available via digital over-the-air. Sun Oct 08 06:10:33 -0700 2006 1928947 23712 DiveFan 1 1930756 I like: Mario Bobby Flay Tyler Florence Iron Chef and ICA $40 a day Rachel Rey's Tasty Travels The Secret Life Of..... that's it....everything else I don't really watch at all...not even for background noise.... Sun Oct 08 06:17:52 -0700 2006 1928947 10620 Xericx 1 1930908 I'm thrilled that Nigella is on Food Network now. I despise all things Rachael Ray. Sun Oct 08 13:53:31 -0700 2006 1928947 13218 KitchenAid 1 1931533 In no order: Ina Gordon Tony Rachel Tyler Bobby Nigella Jamie Daisy Everyone else sucks! TT Sun Oct 08 22:47:17 -0700 2006 1928947 19247 TexasToast 1 1931543 The only one left on mine is Alton and it's just not worth finding the times he's on so I rarely see him often anymore either. The FoolsNetwork — once a fine resource, now a giant waste of bandwidth. Sun Oct 08 22:54:43 -0700 2006 1928947 17969 rainey 2 1932583 In the US, Alton is on weeknights at 7pm eastern. DT Mon Oct 09 15:28:48 -0700 2006 1931543 11291 Davwud 1 1931546 Nigella Lawson is truly amazing Mario Bataili also... I honestly can understand why Anthony Bourdain chose to count himself out of the network... I mean, Rachel Ray... ugh!! Sun Oct 08 22:56:16 -0700 2006 1928947 45456 foodie in seattle 1 1939709 Pretty much the food network lost its appeal. There are better shows on Fine Living, PBS, Discover Home...but as a chef: Alton Mario Flay (only in small spurts) Iron Chef (either one) that's it...I don't want to deal with watered down Martha Stewarts (i.e. paula deen, the bare foot one, rachel ray, etc..) There needs to be a network with real chefs showing the public how to properly cook things...no hackers. no short cuts! the real way. I sa a show today with Marcus Samulesson (a real chef). We are a very interesting and entertaining group :) Thu Oct 12 00:43:31 -0700 2006 1928947 23252 chefthisguy 1 1940028 Good: Alton Brown Mario Batali (but, I never find him on anymore up here in Canada). Gordon Ramsay (Kitchen Nightmares) Passable: David Rocco (Dolce Vita) Nigella Lawson (Any of the two or three series they're running up here) Jamie Oliver (particularly for 'School Dinners') Ina Garten Bobby Flay (in small doses, and only recently -- he's less of an ass than he used to be. But, then again, I haven't seen him on this new competitve show (smash down?)) Original Iron Chef (I hate the Itallian one -- Masahiko Kobe -- too. I like Chen the best.) Bad: The rest. Particular mention goes to Rachel, Giada, and Emeril. Old and good but gone: I miss Steingarten and Ming Tsai a lot. Thu Oct 12 02:57:09 -0700 2006 1928947 24055 Atahualpa 1 1947606 I'm with Carb Lover on the lack of actual teaching on the Food Network. When the network first came to Canada (about 9 years ago), I was glued...there were the Two Hot Tamales, David Rosengarten, Michael Lomonaco, Alan Richman, and Emeril, of course. This was serious cooking and education. It's still important for the home cook to know how to wash spinach properly; the Tamales showed the viewer how. Try finding a cooking show nowadays that TEACHES the basics. As a culinary educator, recipe developer and food/cookbook writer, I lament the deterioration of cooking shows and shows about food in general. It's all about the entertainment now and amusing the masses. As usual, the people with the real passion for real food, cooking and gastronomy are left unsated. Sun Oct 15 22:59:44 -0700 2006 1928947 45482 olivergail 2 1947623 Well said. You must be thrilled with the latest offerings: The world's largest popcorn sculpture, the world's tallest sugar sculpture of a skyscraper, the world's fastest pancake maker.... I'll bet the Empire State Building tastes really good! Sun Oct 15 23:15:32 -0700 2006 1947606 10814 sbp 2 1947717 The Two Hot Tamales were very good too. Thanks olivergail, I'd forgotten about them. Mon Oct 16 00:16:06 -0700 2006 1947606 24055 Atahualpa 1 1947624 My husband and I just want to die everytime we see Rachael Ray grossly undertip in restaurants when she's "on the road". She once left someone $1.69. For God's sake- give the waiter 2 damn dollars!!! Sun Oct 15 23:16:25 -0700 2006 1928947 24576 MRS