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Vacherin Mont D'or question

jupiter Oct 6, 2006 05:37 PM

So i was looking at the Murray's Cheese Shop website (in NYC) and it say's that they will be getting an order of Vacherin coming in soon. Now my question is this:
Are there any cheese shops in SF that anyone knows of that will be getting some soon too? and if not, does it ship well? should i order one from Murray's to ship to me in the Bay area? and if so, how long will it keep for? (i know i can call Murray's for that info, so mainly my question is, Has anyone seen it in the bay area?)

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    roxie Nov 6, 2006 01:54 AM

    Oh yeah..try Cheeseboard. I just found a recipe for warmed V d Md'O with a mushroom ragout-sounds divine! I have to dig thru my piles of paper to find same and will report back! It was going to be my "entry" at our Brunello tasting this week until
    we managed to land on dessert.(I think it's a Food & Wine recipe in the past month).

    1. Melanie Wong Nov 6, 2006 01:17 AM

      The Whole Foods in Sebastopol has Vacherin du Jura in the case, available as a full or sliced as a half round. Full is $16.99, down from $19.99 last year. It's the pasteurized version made by the French for the American market. The cheese guy said they just came in this week. He offered me a taste. It's quite oozy now and certainly spoonable but not quite at full baveuse stage. The flavor is rather clean and there's little fragrance even though the rind is starting to sink in.

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        Tom Simonson Oct 19, 2006 07:59 PM

        Country Cheese in Berkeley (San Pablo Ave near University) has had it in the past. I first got it from them about 3-4 years ago, but I generally recall seeing it there seasonally. These are the actual wooden tubs with the cheese wrapped by a pine strip, aging enough to scoop out from the center.

        That store has its ups and downs, but the owners have made an effort to look for unusual cheeses to bring in.

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        1. re: Tom Simonson
          Robert Lauriston Oct 19, 2006 09:55 PM

          And then they store them with coffee.

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          whit evans Oct 9, 2006 07:48 PM

          Vacherin Mont D'or is not a legal cheese in the US so be cool if you see some. Like, don't post about it here. ;)

          A lot of things have been coming into town over the last few years with Vacherin in the name but they are pasteurized. Still really good, mind you, but not the same. For example, L'edel de Cleron is basically a faux Vacherin and available year round.

          The real thing though is among the best things in the whole world and worth paying almost any price for. It is very doubtful that you will find it in chain stores for liability reasons. Independents and cheese stores are your best bet.

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          1. re: whit evans
            Robert Lauriston Oct 9, 2006 07:56 PM

            Any Vacherin Mont d'Or you find in this area must by law have been made from pasteurized milk.

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              whit evans Oct 9, 2006 07:58 PM

              well no. any Vacherin Mont D'or must be made with raw milk. If it is not, is is not Vacherin Mont D'or. It's an AOC designation. That's why people try and get around it by calling them Vacherin Whatever.

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                whit evans Oct 9, 2006 08:04 PM

                oops, I was unclear. People try to make the pasteurized ones seem like real ones by calling them Vacherin Whatever instead of Vacherin Mont D'or.

                Again, it's still awesome cheese.

                1. re: whit evans
                  limster Oct 10, 2006 02:50 AM

                  I was under the impression that the Swiss versions are pasteurized but the French ones are not. The Swiss own the rights to AOC name Vacherin du Mont d'Or, not the French. It's also called Vacherin du Haut-Doubs in France (AOC name, different name but same cheese).

                  I remember reading in some cheese book that it's available ~Nov-Jan because the milk comes from cows fed hay made from spring grass, therefore it's seasonal as a matter of timing.

            2. re: whit evans
              Chris VR Oct 10, 2006 12:36 AM

              If it's illegal, I wonder why Murray's would list it on their website?

              http://www.murrayscheese.com/product_...

              1. re: Chris VR
                Robert Lauriston Oct 10, 2006 12:43 AM

                Cheese made from pasteurized milk can't be sold as Vacherin Mont d'Or in France, but there's no law against it in the U.S.

                Also, Swiss VMdO is pasteurized.

            3. jupiter Oct 6, 2006 06:18 PM

              I'll start with the 24th street folks. I have never had an issues with them...although i have heard stories.

              Did you see that pic from Melanie of her Vacherin/wine outing from last year?
              I had that image as my screen saver for a week!

              good lord....i hope it lives up to the hype i have built for it in my head.

              but how could something that runny and fragrant (i have smelled it before) and gooey be bad?!?!?

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              1. re: jupiter
                Melanie Wong Oct 7, 2006 12:09 AM

                Vacherin Mont d'Or is made from October to March. You might have to wait a few weeks for a good one.

              2. jupiter Oct 6, 2006 06:12 PM

                pfah! biohazard....paranoiahazard....

                It always seems to show up around Thanksgving, but then it disappears just as fast. Last year i got to tower and i was a day late and a dollar short and they had one left and the cheese guy even admitted that it looked not so good and he couldn't recommend buying that particular one.
                So now, of course, I am hesistant to buy such a cheese at a Mollie Stones and would rather go to a real cheese monger that is going to order them and reserve one of them for me.

                I was hoping that someone would know of a specific cheese shop that regularly get's them in this time of year. That way i can call ahead and go pick one up.

                I have never actually had one, and i have been dying to try one and float away on warm cheese goodness....I figure it is the next step up from my Epoisses addiction that began a few years back...

                Maybe i will just start calling around.

                thanks for the tips

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                1. re: jupiter
                  Robert Lauriston Oct 6, 2006 06:14 PM

                  Any of the usual suspects: 24th St. Cheese, Cowgirl, Whole Foods, Bi-Rite.

                2. Robert Lauriston Oct 6, 2006 06:12 PM

                  It's not particularly rare, just seasonal. All the good cheese shops should have some soon.

                  1. pilinut Oct 6, 2006 06:05 PM

                    I think Vacherin is usually served in the colder months, especially around the holidays. I don't think it's shown up yet, but Mollie's and Whole Foods have had it in season. And the French warehouse in San Bruno--Village Imports--might be bringing some in, too.

                    Personally, I'd rather buy such a delicate cheese from a local store. The Pasta Shop in Berkeley is another likely source. It's not a common cheese but, yes, you should be able to get it here. (Unless, of course, it gets classified as some sort of biohazard.)

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