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Just returned from DC ate at Zaytinya, Ray's the classics, Jaleo, Komi, Restaurant Eve, Smith & Wollensky., American Indian Museum, La Tasca, Tony & Joe's, Bancok Joe's, Chinatown Express

Zaytinya and Ray's the Classics, La Tasca (sagria tinta really good), Bankok Joes, Chinatown Express and American Indian Museum all good or great. Jaleo, Restaurant Eve (lunch), Smith & Wollensky, Komi, T & J's all disappointing especially Restaurant Eve and Komi because I had high expectations. If you are interested in my personal opinion to help you make a decision about a restaurant, I'll be happy to reply. If you are just going to berate me for having a different experience than yours, I don't see any point in answering. I know that sounds defensive but I've been berated in the past so I thought I'd just throw that out there. And yes, I gained 5 pounds despite walking about 10 miles a day.

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  1. If there's no debate (or as you call it "berate"), what's the point? You only want "yes, you're right" replies? This would be a boring place if we were all "yes men/women."

    You have a right to your opinion as we do ours. I happen to agree with you on Zatinya and American Indian, but disagree with you on Eve and Jaleo. I think Eve is incredible, though I've only been once. Perhaps you were there on an off night or perhaps it's just not for you, which is completely fine.

    1. I'm sorry you've been berated in the past, but now that you've warned us I'd really love to know a little more about what you thought aside from a thumbs up or thumbs down. Plus I'm not sure what T and J's is!

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      1. re: Steve

        Tony and Joe's

      2. Weirdest post ever. I disagree with you on every restaurant I've been to on that list. I think Jaleo is delicious and far better than Tasca, and better than Zaytinya. I think the food at the American Indian Museum is icky in an interesting, exotic way. Haven't been to the others, wouldn't have replied but for the weirdness.

        1. Tell me what you didn't like about Jaleo and Eve? I'm interested.

          1. yes...please tell us what you didnt like about Jaleo...was it the touristy feel, the long wait for a table, the "yesterday's wine" sangria, poor service, or average "innovation-to-price ratio" plates?

            1. Okay, to sidestep the barbs, what and where is Bangkok Joes? Can you fill us in? We have some serious backing on the local thai places but I've not heard of this one. If it's worth it, I'll make it my stop this coming week.

              TIA.

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              1. re: Dennis S

                Bangkok Joe's is an awful place in Washington Harbour. Nicely decorated, terrible service, incredibly inauthentic food. Worse than Tara Thai. I've only been there once, and for lunch, but we had quite a few things.

              2. I agree about Jaleo, but don't understand being disappointed about Smith & Wollenskys. How could you ever have high expectations from a chain steakhouse? Bewildering, particularly with steakhouses in DC where they all seem to be good at one thing but lousy at everthing else.

                Sorry about your experience at Restaurant Eve. Been there 6 times and never had less than stellar food and service. But you have to agree that even the best restaurants have an off day.

                1. Strange and perhaps unfortunate experience for lisaomay. La Tasca [a British chain !] better than Jose Andres' Jaleo ??

                  I have never had anything but outstanding meals at Komi and Restaurant Eve (tasting room).

                  The American Indian Museum restaurant is a wonderful idea that has gone horribly wrong with institutional [cafeteria] cooking. Awful [IMHO].

                  I guess that is why there are so many restuarants--there are so many different opinions.

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                  1. re: Dakota Guy

                    Has the cafeteria in the American Indian museum really gone to the dogs (or the Aramarks)? Or is it just that it was a novel idea and an interesting change from the common museum cafeteria, that never really was all that good? I've only eaten there once, a quick snack, and I'm glad I could get something other than a dry hamburger or overpriced salad. I think I had an overpriced taco, but at least it was tasty.

                  2. lisaomay--After I read your post, I was really struck by the blowback you say you've received after disagreeing with other peoples' opinions. Using the new, nifty chowhound software, I searched on all of your previous posts, and didn't really see much evidence of you being berated. Maybe this is a function of you being berated in posts pre-current software? Not sure.

                    Regardless, the DC board is generally friendly and, as I searched, I realized many respondents to your initial posts on this board requesting advice gave you a great deal of thoughtful advice. It's nice of you to come back and give us the quick and dirty report, but I think everybody would enjoy hearing more details.

                    Moreover, I'm not so sure you need to worry about offending anybody with your opinions. I didn't see much evidence that anybody, for example, pointed you towards Smith and Wollensky, so I'm not sure anybody is going to be upset that you didn't like it. Plus, I've never even heard of Tony and Joe's (T&J's?), so would be curious to hear more.

                    Smokey

                    1. The food at Tony and Joe's is terrible. It is a nice spot and all, but I apologize on behalf of everyone who lives around here if someone recommended that to you.

                      I am not surprised to hear that you were disappointed by Jaleo. I like it fine, but it is nothing special compared to the better tapas places in other cities I've travelled to. And of course at a small plates place with an extensive menu its all about what you order, so I would think it quite possible to enjoy a meal at La Tasca more than Jaleo even if Jaleo is a better place overall, which I think is somewhat debateable. If you were in it for the sangria, Jaleo's is not that good, yet everyone seems to order it.

                      Zaytinya is a place everyone seems to like except me, so much so that even though I am not a fan I always recommend it to visitors and they are never disappointed. Glad you liked it. I sent friends visiting from the west coast there last week when I was stuck working late and they raved about it. I wish I enjoyed it as much as everyone else.

                      Thanks for the feedback, albeit brief. If you care to elaborate, I would be most interested in hearing what about Restaurant Eve failed to live up to your expectations.

                      As far as the "berating" is concerned, just don't take it personally. You have every right to enjoy whatever you want to regardless of the opinions of others. If someone else thinks the same thing sucks, good for them...that's one more thing in life you can enjoy that they can't. No need to play into the snobbery (which is pretty limited around this board compared to some other CH environs) and hold back, nor is there any need for others to like the same stuff you do.

                      I'm on my way to McDonald's for an egg mcmuffin, later.