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Mister F. Sep 27, 2006 03:43 PM

I want to learn to bake breads, pies, cakes, etc. Would you chowhounds suggest a cookbook or two that will teach me? I cook all the time, and well; I just have never had an interest in baking until now. Oh, and my nine year old daughter wants to learn with me. Thanks in advance for your suggestions.

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    Pupster RE: Mister F. Sep 27, 2006 03:54 PM

    I can't believe I am saying this because I'm not a fan, but Martha Stewart's Baking Handbook is very good. It's the only book of hers I have and normally I avoid her stuff (she has the habit of putting her mug everywhere) but I have to concede that it's a great primer. It strikes the right balance between the rudimentary elements for a beginner and having a few unusual/more advanced recipes so that you will continue to use it. Lots of pictures, lots of explanation of equipment. A section on each of the main baking catergories (the ones you list above). And unlike the Rose Levy Berenbaum or Nick Malgieri (who both have good books too) it's not overwhelmingly comprehensive -- by that I mean each section has a handful of good recipes that you will most likely tackle, not everything and the kitchen sink of recipes.

    Also, it has a recent publishing date. Check it out from the library.

    1. AmandaEd RE: Mister F. Sep 27, 2006 03:55 PM

      Martha Stewart's Baking book is very comprehensive, and the recipes span the simple to complex. It would be a great book to start and grow with.

      It's also worthwhile to perhaps get a web subscription to Cook's Illustrated. They have a full online database of recipes that you can access, and many of their recipes include links to diagrams that help you with techniques, such as patting pastry dough in the pan.

      I loved cooking with my aunt when I was growing up! Good luck!

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        Hungry Celeste RE: Mister F. Sep 27, 2006 04:01 PM

        Nick Malgieri's How to Bake cookbook is great...another chowhound gave it to me in a moving-related cookbook purge, and I'm grateful to have it in my collection (thanks, SarahC). It covers the waterfront from savory to sweet, and it is instructional without being pedantic or overly fussy. Technique is emphasized, but attention is also paid to taste as well. Cakes, cookies, tarts, pate de choux, puff pastry, breads/pizza, muffins, quickbreads, etc.

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          Candy RE: Hungry Celeste Sep 27, 2006 05:10 PM

          I second that suggestion. The Beranbaum books are wonderful but I think for a beginner they can be a bit intimidating.

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            maviris RE: Hungry Celeste Oct 18, 2006 12:18 AM

            For all-purpose baking (fancy and simple) Malgieri's How to Bake is one of my favorites too.

            But you can also find some great recipes (and technique tips) in general-purpose cookbooks like CI's The New Best Recipe, Mark Bittman's How to Cook Everything and even the Joy of Cooking.

          2. Katie Nell RE: Mister F. Sep 27, 2006 04:03 PM

            Have to agree with the recs for Martha Stewart's Baking Handbook, but I do love Martha! As Amanda said, the recipes range from very easy to complicated, so it's a good one to have if you are learning to bake. The Chocolate Brownie Cookies are my favorite thing I've tried so far! Many of the cookies in this cookbook made into my Cookie of the Month Club that I was sending to people a while back!

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              Chimayo Joe RE: Mister F. Sep 27, 2006 04:32 PM

              "Fearless Baking" by Elinor Klivans is a great one to start with. It only deals with desserts though, not breads.

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                LauraB RE: Chimayo Joe Sep 27, 2006 11:44 PM

                I wholeheartedly agree with this suggestion. She has very clear instructions and everything I have made from the book has been at least very good. Some of my favorites include the whoopie pies and the rolling pin almond cake. It might be hard to find, but ecookbooks (off the epicurious page) should have it (and probably for a discount).

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                virtualfrolic RE: Mister F. Sep 27, 2006 04:38 PM

                I know this does not go into the "cookbook" category, but I have learned a great deal from Cook's Illustrated (I subscribe to the website).

                As people have mentioned in this board, their recipes are not the "best", but they do work out consistently, and I love their little "tips" for most of the recipes. They definitely help. For a new baker, their reviews of the supplies and ingredients is also very helpful.

                Blog: http://virtualfrolic.blogspot.com

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                  coolbean98 RE: virtualfrolic Oct 5, 2006 06:15 AM

                  CI has a baking book called Baking Illustrated: http://www.cooksillustrated.com/books...

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                  Kagey RE: Mister F. Sep 27, 2006 04:40 PM

                  I like Nigella Lawson's Domestic Goddess book for baking. It's very easy and un-fussy, but the recipes make delicious cakes. I think there's also a section about baking for/with children, but I may be mistaken.

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                    oakjoan RE: Kagey Oct 18, 2006 06:13 PM

                    I agree about Nigella. I have made many of her cakes (from books and her website and tv programs)and they've all been delicious.

                  2. buttertart RE: Mister F. Sep 27, 2006 05:22 PM

                    I have had good luck with all of Dorie Greenspan's books, and just received the new one today - Baking: From My Home to Yours - will report on it once read and something made from it.

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                      pikawicca RE: buttertart Oct 15, 2006 12:45 AM

                      This is a super book!

                    2. Becca Porter RE: Mister F. Sep 27, 2006 05:45 PM

                      I have wheatmeal shortbread from MS Baking Handbook in my oven right now. I baked some yesterday but I only got one piece. My husband ate the other seven before bed. It has whole wheat and bran in it. It is SO delicious.

                      Everytime I bake something new from this cookbook, I expect not to like it, because no cookbook could have 100% great recipes could it? Everytime it turns out even better than I expected. I believe every recipe has a full-color inspiring picture as well.

                      My other favorite bakers are:

                      Cooks Illustrated (They have The Baking Handbook)
                      Dorie Greenspan
                      King Arthur
                      Pierre Herme (more advanced)
                      Alice Medrich ( Especially Bittersweet)
                      Fine Cooking and Cuisine at Home Magazines

                      I hope this helps.

                      1. Chocolatechipkt RE: Mister F. Sep 27, 2006 05:48 PM

                        Baking With Julia ... I use it all the time
                        King Arthur

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                          bogie RE: Mister F. Sep 28, 2006 07:22 AM

                          This is the bread book you need:

                          http://www.amazon.com/Dough-Simple-Co...

                          "Dough" by Richard Bertinet is simple, modern bread baking for the home cook. It includes many ethnic breads, too. The instructional DVD that comes with it is awesome.

                          For desserts:

                          http://www.amazon.com/Secrets-Baking-...

                          "Secrets of Baking" by Sherry Yard is the ultimate book on professional pastry applied to the home kitchen. It is organized by major technique, such as caramel, and then shows what is possible with it through related recipes.

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                            Smokey RE: Mister F. Sep 28, 2006 02:46 PM

                            I checked the Sherry Yard book out of the library and wasn't crazy about it. I lso am only so-so on Nick Malgieri.

                            I would consider either of these as a good, introductory, covers a broad swatch of baking (sweet and savory), books.

                            http://www.amazon.com/Baking-Illustra...

                            http://www.amazon.com/King-Arthur-Flo...

                            My best recommendation though is that you try to check some of the books that are recommended to you out of the library. I've saved myself lots of money by doing this as I've found that some books really aren't for me (for whatever reason). When you find a book that you 'click' with, you'll know it and you can then just buy it and ignore the rest!

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                              doctor_mama RE: Smokey Sep 28, 2006 03:02 PM

                              The new King Arthur whole grain baking book is on its way to me now. I can't wait to try it!

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                                Smokey RE: doctor_mama Sep 28, 2006 03:31 PM

                                Yeah, I didn't even mention that one because it seemed as though it might be too specialized for what the OP was after. But I'll admit, I'm dyin' to get my hands on it!

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                                  Dommy RE: doctor_mama Oct 4, 2006 04:11 PM

                                  Please report back what you think!! I's on my wishlist! :)

                                  --Dommy!

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                                    doctor_mama RE: Dommy Oct 4, 2006 06:58 PM

                                    Just got it yesterday! Will report when I try it.

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                                zorgclyde RE: Mister F. Sep 29, 2006 06:50 AM

                                I also really don't like MS, but her book and the photos are nice. However, many of the recipes have only instructions given for standup mixer - a big disadvantage for me (and other newbies) since I have no plan getting one soon. Same goes for Baking with Julia. That's one of the primary reasons I hardly ever used the Julia book even though it looks good. Plus many of the recipes there are quite time consuming and have large batches. I suppose if you got experience it's not so hard to adapt, but again, newbies may find it difficult.
                                I would suggest going to the library and really testing out 1 or 2 recipes. I myself am still searching for a good baking book. Nick Malgieri's looks good, but I will decide once I actually try his stuff out.

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                                  Fleur RE: Mister F. Sep 29, 2006 07:08 AM

                                  My all time favorite remains Paula Peck Art of Baking.

                                  Paula is no longer with us, but her cookbook is outstanding...the best! Often available on eBay.

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                                    JoanN RE: Fleur Oct 4, 2006 06:34 PM

                                    I agree. In fact, in 30+ years I've worn out two copies. Luckily I recently found a hardbound reprint at a library sale. Paid a whopping 50 cents for it.

                                    But I doubt it's the kind of book the OP has in mind. I think of it as more of a do-it-yourself book since cake, filling, frosting, and decoration recipes are each given separately. Great when you know more or less what you want to do and are just looking for recipes for each component; not so great if you want the whole thing, start to finish, in a single recipe.

                                  2. Robert Lauriston RE: Mister F. Oct 4, 2006 06:51 PM

                                    Look for an *old* edition of Betty Crocker. Check the recipes to make sure the cake recipe ingredients don't incude cake mix.

                                    Lindsey Shere's "Chez Panisse Desserts"

                                    Julia Child's "The Way To Cook" (encyclopedic but the baking directions are good)

                                    Rose Levy Beranbaum's "Cake Bible" http://www.thecakebible.com

                                    1. junglekitte RE: Mister F. Oct 4, 2006 07:40 PM

                                      I think a very good beginner book would be the cooks illustrated cookbook. costco even sells it (or amazon)
                                      it gives thorough explanations for everything and the recipes i've tried were good.

                                      the cake bible is also good
                                      julia child
                                      more...

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                                        Kelli2006 RE: Mister F. Oct 5, 2006 02:57 AM

                                        I have to second the King Arthur baking books, as well as Julia Child. Fine Cooking and Cooks Illustrated are also very helpful.
                                        RLB has great books but they can be intimidating for most beginners.
                                        I have found that Nick Malgerhi recipes always work, and they aren't too difficult to me intimidating.
                                        The CIA baking textbook is very good with basic techniques and theory, but some people find them pedantic and overly rigid.
                                        I find that Shirley Coorhier, Alton Brown and McGee's food science books are required, but They might not be everyones idea of baking knowledge.

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                                          Flour Child RE: Mister F. Oct 5, 2006 03:45 PM

                                          Baking with Julia
                                          Any of the Rose Levy Berenbaum books
                                          In the Sweet Kitchen by Regan Daley - Great book for learning about ingredients, tools and techniques.

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                                            Carb Lover RE: Flour Child Oct 6, 2006 03:06 PM

                                            I have owned Baking w/ Julia for years but haven't baked much from it after mixed results early on. What recipes do you especially like in that book? TIA.

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                                              Chocolatechipkt RE: Carb Lover Oct 17, 2006 05:13 PM

                                              The challah, scones, French apple tart ... there are more.

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                                            macaroon RE: Mister F. Oct 5, 2006 10:40 PM

                                            Baking Illustrated is pretty good..

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                                              JW1 RE: Mister F. Oct 6, 2006 01:13 AM

                                              I'm quite surprised that no one has mentioned Maida Heatter's excellent series of cook books. They are all available via Amazon.com. Although her recipes look rather daunting at 1st glance, that really isn't the case, as she is communicating each and every detail to get optimal results. Her cookbooks aren't just full of baking recipes but include frozen desserts and ice creams. The Queen Mother Cake is to die for - recipe in her New Book of Great Desserts and also in
                                              Maida Heatter's Book of Great Chocolate Desserts
                                              Maida Heatter'S Book Of Great Desserts (Hardcover

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                                                jen kalb RE: JW1 Oct 15, 2006 01:02 AM

                                                Maida's are high quality, delicious recipes and tho she is precise in her directions (a good thing) not the least fussy.
                                                I highly recommend.

                                                For traditional American cakes, nothing beats the old Betty Crocker Baking Book from the 50s, which has come back out in facsimile. Pre-cake mix cake recipes, mostly easy techniques.

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                                                Velda Mae RE: Mister F. Oct 6, 2006 02:48 AM

                                                I have made several recipes from the King Arthur Baking Book and in general the results have been fantastic. My biggest quibble with the book is that it is very poorly edited and I think that could pose problems for new bakers. For example, the instructions in the introduction to the layer cake section contradict the instructions in the recipes themselves. The instructions in the introduction are correct.

                                                I agree with the Maida Heatter suggestion. The fudge brownies in her cookie cookbook are the definition of my perfect brownie, not too fudgy or gooey but not dry or cakey. Very dark, moist and chocolatey.

                                                Finally, Alton Brown's I'm Just Here for More Food does a good job of explaining the science behind baking, though I haven't tested the recipes.

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                                                  niki rothman RE: Velda Mae Oct 18, 2006 05:11 PM

                                                  Alton Brown is so pedantic and rigid that things have to be one way only and that there are ingredients that are mandatory but I often find myself disagreeing vehemently when I watch his show so I would not trust his cookbooks.

                                                2. NYchowcook RE: Mister F. Oct 6, 2006 11:51 AM

                                                  I think books that are good for beginners and will yield good results are:
                                                  Baking at Home by Culinary Institute of America. Guides you through w/ a knowledgeable hand.
                                                  Martha Stewart's baking book (and I'm not generally a MS fan)

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                                                    HillJ RE: Mister F. Oct 14, 2006 10:32 PM

                                                    No one mentioned this one - Kathleen King - Tate's Bake Shop Cookbook. Her first book is impossible to get now but this new edition is very good. All of the recipes come out to perfection.

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                                                      Nancy Berry RE: Mister F. Oct 14, 2006 11:11 PM

                                                      Here are five baking books that I like:

                                                      The Bakers Dozen Cookbook -- lots of good, tested recipes and hints and tips from a number of professional bakers and pastry chefs. The pie recipes are really terrific.

                                                      The Fanny Farmer Baking Book by Marion Cunningham -- an excellent book for baking with children -- straight forward well-written recipes that work and that are relatively easy to make

                                                      The Cake Bible by Rose Levy Beranbaum -- lots of good, tested recipes that work and text that tells you about ingredients and the why's and how's of baking.

                                                      King Arthur Flour Whole Grain Baking, The King Arthur Flour Cookie Companion, The King Arthur Flour Baker's Companion, and King Arthur Flour 200th Anniversary Cookbook -- These all together form a wonderfully complete baking cookbook set with lots and lots of excellent recipes and explanations re technique.

                                                      Martha Stewart's Baking Handbook -- This is an excellent general baking cookbook that also contains well-tested recipes that produce beautiful looking results that taste great.

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                                                        antrobin RE: Mister F. Oct 15, 2006 04:55 AM

                                                        Home Baking by Alford and Duguid is excellent.

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                                                          niki rothman RE: Mister F. Oct 17, 2006 07:16 PM

                                                          You cannot go wrong with the King Arthur Flour baking books. They are quite the authority. Check out their website and then get on their mailing list for catalogs. The catalogs themselves are great and they feature good recipes.

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                                                            oakjoan RE: niki rothman Oct 18, 2006 06:21 PM

                                                            I went to the King Arthur website and found they have several baking books. Which one(s) do you reccomend? I one the one that has the most variety.

                                                            Thanks for the tip about the catelogs, too.

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                                                              Kelli2006 RE: oakjoan Oct 18, 2006 09:21 PM

                                                              This is the standard baking cookbook. It is is not in here, you probably willhttp://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0881502472/... The recipes are more consistent when used with K-A flour.

                                                              The flour baking companion (red/white covered book) is also useful, but there is some overlap.

                                                              I would suggest you borrow them from a library before you buy.

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                                                            coconutz RE: Mister F. Oct 18, 2006 10:38 PM

                                                            I have Baking with Julia and find that book very inspirational, the photos are great. It is sort of a 'baking with master bakers' approach, and is intended as a teaching book, it seems. It has encouraged me to tackle some complex items but there are some simple recipes too-- I absolutely love the lemon loaf and what could be easier? Ditto the tomato and peach galette from Flo Braker. There is a really good variety and many savory items.

                                                            Can't compare because I don't have any other baking only book.

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