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Sublime Cocktails?

The Engineer Sep 23, 2006 11:02 PM

Where else can I get thoughtfully made cocktails along the lines of Flatiron Lounge and Pegu Club? I'm looking for homemade infusions, fresh squeezed juices, imaginative recipes, a respect for the "classics"... like that. And served with uh, you know, savoir faire n stuff.

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    Desidero RE: The Engineer Sep 23, 2006 11:21 PM

    I think you'll find what you are looking for at Temple Bar on Lafayette between Bleecker and Houston. This is an old school cocktail lounge with a nice vibe and well-prepared drinks.

    1. jenniebnyc RE: The Engineer Sep 23, 2006 11:28 PM

      Employees Only

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        Lucia RE: The Engineer Sep 23, 2006 11:29 PM

        Little Branch, East Side Co. Bar, Milk & Honey (if you can get in), Angel's Share, Blue Owl, and perhaps the new Gin Lane (haven't been).

        1. Ali B RE: The Engineer Sep 23, 2006 11:40 PM

          The gin cocktails at Gin Lane are excellent, IMHO.

          1. Ali B RE: The Engineer Sep 23, 2006 11:42 PM

            Along these lines, where can I get great cocktails and great food? -- preferably lighter fare so I have more room for the drinks. Thanks!

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              simetrias RE: Ali B Sep 24, 2006 01:21 AM

              Sumile, 13 st. at 7th ave. Sublime cocktails, half price before 7, and amazing asian fusion food, served in cocktail lounge if you like.

            2. The Engineer RE: The Engineer Sep 25, 2006 04:01 PM

              Nobody mentioned Devon... I just saw Dale DeGroof give Bobby "what me worry" Flay a bartending lesson on Flay's smackdown show... at Devon. Any comments?

              Thanks for the ideas everyone. To further refine my search, I would say I'm not really interested in "attitude" places... would that disqualify any of the above?

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                erikka RE: The Engineer Sep 25, 2006 07:45 PM

                Hmmm...you might get some attitude at Angel's Share--it's very formal and uptight and there's a dress code. Employees only might adminster velvet rope burn depending on when you go--the bouncer has been known to tell people to come back in an hour when it's overcrowded.

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                  curve12 RE: The Engineer Sep 26, 2006 01:28 PM

                  It's actually Devin and it's from the same guys as Dylan... another place with some great cocktails

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                  Nehna RE: The Engineer Sep 25, 2006 04:48 PM

                  Milk and Honey
                  Temple Bar
                  Employees Only

                  1. thievery RE: The Engineer Sep 25, 2006 04:49 PM

                    The list above is very solid... to the list, i'd add:

                    Brandy Library - expertly prepared cocktails, classy, uncrowded atmosphere and leather armchairs. lite hors d'oevres and of course, plenty of brandy.

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                      wdt212 RE: The Engineer Sep 25, 2006 08:00 PM

                      I would add Pegu Club and Flatiron lounge to the list. Both very solid.

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                        The Engineer RE: wdt212 Sep 26, 2006 02:40 AM

                        OK thanks I guess...

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                        slynnkiino RE: The Engineer Sep 25, 2006 08:05 PM

                        The Campbell Apartment in Grand Central specializes in old-school cocktails, though I didn't think the drinks were quite up to the level of Pegu Club or Flatiron Lounge. It's a great space, though, dark with comfy couches and high ceilings.

                        Bemelman's at the Carlyle Hotel (Madison @ 76th) has fantastic drinks--this is where Audrey Sanders of the Pegu Club used to work. In fact, there's some overlap of the specialty cocktail menus.



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                          janethepain RE: slynnkiino Sep 25, 2006 09:07 PM

                          I LOVE the Pegu Club, and from what I've seen/tasted at Gin Lane, that's a good pick too.

                          I've been to the Campbell Apartment, but for what you pay for those drinks, I'd much rather go someplace like the Flatiron Lounge or Pegu Club. The Apartment was crowded with old boys club-type suits waiting for their trains to Long Island. I went right after work, so that could be why it was so hard to get a seat, even at the bar. The mojitos were overly sweet and definitely not strong enough. I'd spend my money elsewhere.

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                            The Engineer RE: janethepain Sep 26, 2006 02:43 AM

                            As an engineer (the choo-choo kind) I have to point out that trains to Long Island leave from Penn Station, for the next ten or so years at least. Maybe the suits were confused...

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                              janethepain RE: The Engineer Sep 26, 2006 02:10 PM

                              well ok, upstate NY then. But you know what I mean ;)

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                          mrnyc RE: The Engineer Sep 26, 2006 01:11 AM

                          re the west village: i love little branch, its fine anytime & meets all your criteria, but be forewarned the oil lamps give a really overpowering smell to the joint. employees only is great too, but only if you go early. the new place gin lane has a few decent libations, but its err, well...its very meatpacking district lets leave it at that. go early there too.

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                            Nathan75 RE: The Engineer Sep 26, 2006 10:34 PM

                            Gin Lane sucks. The drinks are poorly made, the bartenders are going through the motions and the crowd is almost entirely B&T.

                            The Bemelman's Bar is solid, albeit filled with older gentlemen and their "nieces", M&H gives PC and FL a run for their money, a rung below but still very good are Employee's Only, Blue Owl, Temple and Little Branch. The best Negroni in the city is at Del Posto (except for the one I make at home).

                            Angel's Share is pretty decent, however, you can tell they use inferior ice and they don't shake hard enough.

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                              mrnyc RE: Nathan75 Sep 27, 2006 12:12 AM

                              hehe! you are a lot more pointed than me about gin lane.

                              if you want classics just around the corner from gin lane the OLD HOMESTEAD steakhouse sidebar makes great martinis and manhattans. it's kind of a quiet and all but secret libation oasis in that louche area, where you have all those nightlife joints yet no one can make decent drink.

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                                Denis RE: Nathan75 Oct 2, 2006 09:23 PM

                                Inferior in what way? The water? Not cold enough? I've always found that they take care with the ice, cracking big cubes to order for some drinks and grinding (rather then blender-ing) ice to order for others. It's not like they're using the have the half-melted little shell ice or anything. But I haven't been in a while and things may have changed. Hope they haven't changed that drastically.

                                As for not shaking hard enough, I agree that over the past few years they haven't been shaking drinks with the gusto they once did. Regrettable.

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                                lactose intolerant cheeselover RE: The Engineer Dec 9, 2006 12:01 AM

                                Angel's Share is one of my favorite bars in the city, and definitely a spot to go for classic cocktails. Atmosphere is warm and cool simultaneously - and the "rules" are simply no large groups, no standing, and no shouting. Thank god for the rules! In terms of food, you can eat at Yokocho next door, or order small dishes in the bar itself (same kitchen).

                                1. Yaqo Homo RE: The Engineer Dec 9, 2006 12:43 AM

                                  WD-50, my friend! Those cocktails are beautiful, tasty and many of them, like everything else at that restaurant, are heartily outlandish. I think I had some kind of rye with quince juice concoction that was out of this world.

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                                    yurasia RE: The Engineer Dec 9, 2006 02:55 AM

                                    Pegu club is defintinely up there, in both taste and price. Homemade bitters and so on...

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