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Time Out London, Best Restaurant

TexasToast Sep 22, 2006 10:25 PM

TO named Abrutus best new restaurant. Any comments?

TT

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    Prawn Cocktail Oct 19, 2006 02:35 PM

    What about Gordon Ramsey's flagship in Chelsea? Marina O'Loughlin just gave it a quite scathing review, but I was there the day that went to print and the place was still packed!

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      wyahaw Oct 18, 2006 12:29 AM

      As a food writer living in London I feel that Time Out was a little generous to Arbutus, but it is actually typical of the places opening in London recently - either bistros aimed at the mid-market (Arbutus, Galvins), or pan Asian places like Gilgamesh or Nobu Berkeley. Arbutus has a high quality cook (ex the Michelin starred but ill fated Putney Bridge) but uses fairly cheap ingredients (you will see pollack, but no sea bass or turbot) at prices that are geared to making a healthy margin. London has perhaps the most vibrant food scene of any city but at present it seems to me as if restaurateurs are going for greed rather than ambition. In the new Good Food Guide (published in October)the highest new entry is Galvin at Windows with 6/10, which is about the level of one Michelin star - nothing more ambitious than this has opened sinde Tom Aikens.

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        Jimmy Sep 26, 2006 04:47 PM

        Well, I just can't pass this one up....I have not been to Europe since 1963, but I have always kept a little sign in my Den that sooner or later someone would appreciate..it says :
        " Heaven is a place where the Police are British, the chefs French, the mechanics German, the lovers Italian and it is all organized by the Swiss.
        Hell is where the Police are German, the chefs British, the mechanics French, the lovers Swiss and it is all organized by the Italians."

        I also seem to recall that one of the smallest books in the world was.. " Great English Recipes "

        My, how things must have changed..lol.

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          JBC Oct 9, 2006 05:28 PM

          There is also an old joke about European Driving habits which get worse the farther south you go (but I can't remember it accurately).

        2. TexasToast Sep 23, 2006 12:08 AM

          What, nothing?

          http://www.arbutusrestaurant.co.uk

          TT

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          1. re: TexasToast
            zuriga1 Sep 24, 2006 07:07 AM

            I haven't been there so can't comment. I think there were a lot of discussions about it on Egullet if you want to look there. Some of the contributors are food critics and they get to eat everywhere. There is so much superb food in London now that I hope the old ways of thinking about that city and all of England will die out. :-)

            1. re: zuriga1
              howler Sep 24, 2006 11:48 AM

              ok zuriga tell me - where is this superb food in london? (grin)

              but seriously, i think we've gone off the rails here. great here means river cafe, or chez bruce or capital or something. but it doesn't mean kervan, or karam, or charles southern kitchen or bo or sripraprai or ...

              theres no mouthwateringly delicious italian, or greek, or turkish or german or swedish or ..
              you get my drift.

              1. re: howler
                zuriga1 Sep 26, 2006 03:08 AM

                As with most things, one can't really generalize about food. We all have such different expectations, experiences, taste buds etc.

                I haven't been to Locatelli but would like to try that one day. Locally down south here, the Italian leaves much to be desired, and I don't even know of a Greek place. I think I'm due a trip back to the States. :-)

                1. re: zuriga1
                  TexasToast Sep 26, 2006 11:52 AM

                  Why not just go to Greece?

                  TT

                  1. re: TexasToast
                    zuriga1 Sep 26, 2006 04:35 PM

                    I wouldn't mind. Right now I'm saving for a trip back to the States but Greece will happen. I'll be in Barcelona next February, Germany another weekend... life is good.

                2. re: howler
                  mnosyne Sep 26, 2006 04:32 PM

                  As far as Italian goes, we ate at Zafferano, Il Convivio, Carrafini, and Cammerino in July, and (from old Italy travelers) we felt they were very good.

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