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<topic>
  <id>326997</id>
  <title>Turkey Talk [moved form Califonia board]</title>
  <published_at>Mon Sep 18 21:32:10 -0700 2006</published_at>
  <post_count>12</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>27</id>
    <name>General Chowhounding Topics</name>
  </board>
  <posts>
    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>1884992</id>
        <content>Thanksgiving is coming, and I have a question for the Chowhounds.  What are the best turkeys in Northern California?  I have seen both Diestel and Branigan turkeys before, but have yet to taste them.  Are they worth the extra bucks, or should I just grab a Foster Farms and a bucket of brine?  There is also an Heirloom Turkey from Diestel; has anyone tried that one in the past?  Thanks.</content>
        <published_at>Mon Sep 18 21:32:10 -0700 2006</published_at>
        <parent_id></parent_id>
        <user>
          <id>35837</id>
          <name>Sacto_Damkier</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1885251</id>
      <content>What about Willy Birds?  We order those.  A foster farms brined turkey sounds damn good too though!  I've never tried the Dietsel or Branigan.  Is that wrong?:)

Melly  www.sacramentofoodgroup.org</content>
      <published_at>Mon Sep 18 22:55:21 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1884992</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11408</id>
        <name>melly</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1885812</id>
      <content>I did the Heirloom bird one year. Ordered it from Bristol Farms. It was the size of a game hen. The folks at Bristol apologized and gave us a free organic bird to make up the difference. It was not only tiny, but not that tasty. I wouldn't do it again.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Sep 19 02:45:54 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1884992</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11375</id>
        <name>perk</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1886095</id>
      <content>Sounds good. Where's Bristol Farms in relation to Sacramento?</content>
      <published_at>Tue Sep 19 07:06:13 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1885812</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13030</id>
        <name>free sample addict aka Tracy L</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1887167</id>
      <content>They're only in SoCal:
http://www.bristolfarms.com/locations/index.html

I personally love the Diestel turkeys.  We get them from Iowa Farms, and usually brine them.  I've yet to try an heirloom, however.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Sep 19 18:55:33 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1886095</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11001</id>
        <name>phee</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>1888254</id>
      <content>Oh, too bad.  I prefer to order my turkey through a local grocery store in Sacramento and pick it up rather than have it delivered.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Sep 20 01:17:15 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1887167</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13030</id>
        <name>free sample addict aka Tracy L</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1885996</id>
      <content>I routinely get a regular Diestel turkey (yes, even in SoCal) and think they're great.  I've brined or roasted them and they come out well with either cooking method.  I probably should mention that I don't find cooking a turkey particularly difficult or intimidating, so perhaps I'm predisposed to ending up with a good turkey ;-)</content>
      <published_at>Tue Sep 19 05:07:27 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1884992</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10506</id>
        <name>DiningDiva</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>2042390</id>
      <content>I have used the Dietsel turkey for the last couple of years.  Last year I got it in a box that had cooking instructions that included putting wine in the bottom of the baking pan.  This year, I didn't get the box.  Do you have the directions provided by Dietsel?  It was an improvement.  Thanks, Lynn</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 22 19:59:38 -0800 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1885996</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>54997</id>
        <name>Lynn R.</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1886575</id>
      <content>I did a Diestel heirloom turkey last year and my family loved it. I thought it more flavorful than the usual Diestel turkey, which is pretty good to begin with. I have done both Willie Bird and Diestel conventional turkeys for years, have been quite satisfied with both, can't recall noting any big differences between them.

I usually brine, so after a lot of hesitation I did a 24-hour brine on the heirloom bird as well just to make it a clearer comparison to what I had been doing with conventional birds. As I said, it seemed better although with less breast meat. The different body shape will be a bit startling at first, since it looks like a real bird as opposed to the agricultural artifact we have become used to.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Sep 19 15:51:04 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1884992</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10927</id>
        <name>alfairfax</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1888497</id>
      <content>Let's talk turkey dressing too because when I lived in Italy my Italian instructor passed on her poultry stuffing recipe to which she added about a 1/2 cup of fresh grated Parmasan cheese (no substitutes please) and about 3 cloves of garlic sauteed in one stick of butter along with chopped onions and celery, mixed with basic turkey stuffing spices, salt pepper and then poured over fresh bread cubes - I use Pepperidge Farms Wheat Berry bread cut in to cubes.

But it is the Parmasan cheese and the garlic that lets the magic happen when the stuffing comes out - no one can tell why it tastes so wonderful, but everyone who has had it ends up making it their own tradition too.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Sep 20 03:39:50 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1884992</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12522</id>
        <name>glbtrtr</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1888561</id>
      <content>Thanks for all the good insight.  I try to get organic and natural foods whenever possible, as long as they taste good.  Both Diestel and Branigan are local turkey farms, but I am glad to hear that they taste good.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Sep 20 04:14:49 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1884992</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>35837</id>
        <name>Sacto_Damkier</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1888594</id>
      <content>My stepfather uses a Diestel and it's the best turkey anyone in my family has had. We'll never go back to Foster Farms.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Sep 20 04:37:58 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1884992</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10793</id>
        <name>Morton the Mousse</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1889463</id>
      <content>We've been using Mary's heritage turkeys (Narragansett or Bourbon Red) for the last couple of years. Better than Diestel.

http://marysturkeys.com/</content>
      <published_at>Wed Sep 20 16:13:18 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1884992</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11369</id>
        <name>Robert Lauriston</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
</topic>
