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Where do ya get a good chopped liver sandwich around Raleigh?

klmonline Sep 15, 2006 02:20 AM

The title pretty much sums it up. I'm willing to drive out of my way for some deli quality real chopped liver, pastrami, etc.

Kosher is not a consideration in my case... just the taste.

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    rockycat Sep 16, 2006 03:08 AM

    Among the many things this area is missing, a decent Jewish-style deli would be near the top of the list. I have yet to see chopped liver on any menu in Raleigh. My solution is to use the 2nd Avenue Deli's liver recipe (the beef liver is crucial and I keep home-rendered chicken fat in the freezer) and a loaf of Arnold's rye bread. It's easy if you have a Kitchen-Aid with the meat grinder attachment. I only make it once a year, though. My cholesterol level can't take any more.

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      Rory Sep 16, 2006 03:30 AM

      I think a kosher dairy would fly here, but my family doesn't eat deli any more it just too bad for you.
      There is a new place Sabra's near Woodcroft mall that has kosher stuff, primarily Israeli. Hey you could call & ask & who knows maybe Whole Foods might as the New Year is coming up. I used to have brisket for rosh hashanah; now we make Israeli/ Sephardic cuisine: Morrocan chicken et al.

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        Tom M of Durham NC Sep 16, 2006 08:54 PM

        I think this is why you won't see a good Jewish style deli open in the area. Even those of us who love this food know better than to eat it often enough to sustain a business. There used to be a Jewish deli in Cary (Horowitz' I think) but it went out of business.

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          rockycat Sep 16, 2006 09:01 PM

          Many years ago (more than 15) when Horowitz's was still in Raleigh, I ate there with the spouse-to-be. The service was appalling and the waitress - when I could find one - refused to believe there was anything wrong with my cheese blintzes until I cut them open and showed her that the insides were entirely green with mold. No apology, no replacement offered - not that I wanted one at that point - I was supposed to be grateful that I wasn't charged for them. From that point on, I never had the slightest interest in visiting them in either Raleigh or Cary.
          The restaurant was just plain bad, not bad for you.

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        HeelsSoxHound Sep 16, 2006 01:36 PM

        sabra doesn't have a kitchen... they do have some other interesting products, though.

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          Rory Sep 16, 2006 07:21 PM

          Could you tell me, Hound? Give me some kind of idea what's there as I may go this week then. Anything fresh?

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            klmonline Sep 17, 2006 09:36 PM

            I just went over there today. It's in a small strip of businesses in a brick mini-mall (mall is too big a word, but I can't think what else to call it). On your left after you cross 54 coming from Hwy 40 (751 changes its name to Hope Valley). Look for a temporary white banner over the door announcing "Sabra Kosher and Israeli".

            They are a small retail grocer. The aisles carry some baked goods (all prepacked imports... no home cooked items), some candies, and the usual matzohs, egg noodles, and other essential ingredients. Some halvah (including one without sugar that sparked my interest, but the labeling was only in Hebrew and I couldn't read the ingredients). Challah looked tired and rubbery, but that's just a snap call from looking at the bag... No taste test. Nice looking honey cakes.

            There are refrigerators and freezers for cold prepackaged items. I bought a frozen tub of "Meal Mart Gourmet Beef Chopped Liver" but I haven't thawed and tried it yet. I also tried a refrigerated jar of Ba-Tampte brand half-sour pickles (good flavor, but not crisp). I also picked up some Empire frozen cheese blintzes. They had a few cuts of kosher beef (like small steaks) and assorted other items.

            Most items were one brand only... No comparison shopping. I didn't see any kosher chickens, but I wasn't really looking for those and could easily have glossed over them.

            The husband/wife team at the cash register were speaking Hebrew to some of the shoppers and English to others. They seemed pleasant enough. All three items I bought were between 4 and 5 dollars.

            There is no deli section or attempts to serve food to eat immediately. Just a grocery store.

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          Rory Sep 18, 2006 01:06 AM

          Thanks for the report kimon;
          not so exciting for me. If the couple speak Hebrew you can ask them about the Halvah. I'm glad you found chopped liver, I was going to say they're selling fresh chicken livers at Weaver St. if you're up for it.
          Weaver St. has Gus's Pickles, straight from the barrel in nyc, very good if you like half-cured. Crisp:) & very good in-house baked Challah, they always make cakes for the holidays too.

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            klmonline Sep 18, 2006 02:25 AM

            Thanks for the tip, Rory. I'll definitely check out Weaver St.

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            Rory Sep 18, 2006 08:38 PM

            Happy to help.
            Weaver St. makes better than nyc fresh-baked Challah every fri. & special round ones with raisins for the holidays. I know at Hannukah they had wonderful cookies. They are great bakers & also make sure to have matzoh, borscht, the usual suspects for the holidays.
            it's well worth a visit, especially when Sabra sound so mediocre.

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              rockycat Sep 21, 2006 03:00 PM

              Sabra only sounds mediocre if you don't keep kosher (which I don't). However, I have many friends who do and a store like this is a godsend to them. What you have to remember is that Sabra is not trying to serve the general public or the exotica-seeking foodie. Their sole purpose is to serve customers who require kosher food (of which there is less that you might suspect in the Triangle) and Israeli ex-pats looking for a taste of home.

              I knew the owner of Eshel Kosher Market in Raleigh and I wish the owners of Sabra much better luck than he had. Kol hakavod, guys!

              1. klmonline Sep 21, 2006 03:49 PM

                Just in case that was a response to my post and I came across as dissin' Sabra, I would like to apologize. There is a definite need for such a store for exactly the reasons you stated and I wish the owners all success as well. I was trying to give a factual and dispassionate (throw in quick and moderately informative) run down of my impressions after one visit. Just so folks know what's available and what not to expect.

                Sabra should get a boost from the article that the News & Observer ran this week. Can't hurt!

                Now if we could just get a good NY style Jewish deli somewhere closer than Charlotte, I'd be happy!

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                  rockycat Sep 21, 2006 07:58 PM

                  "Now if we could just get a good NY style Jewish deli somewhere closer than Charlotte, I'd be happy!"

                  Amen to that!

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                    Rory Sep 23, 2006 07:16 AM

                    A fatty corned beef sandwich...ah perchance to dream. Amen brother!
                    Happy New Year
                    & holiday dinner chez moi is again Chicken Tagine with preserved lemons & olives , with carrot salad w/orange water, cous cous, and an aperitif of Armenian Pomegranite wine (really delightful)

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                      Andy Sep 23, 2006 10:24 AM

                      Please tell me the name of the JEWISH DELI in Charlotte?
                      When I lived there many moons ago, there was always Jewish -style and nowhere to be found a REAL NY corned beef or pastrami....

                      thanks

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                        klmonline Sep 23, 2006 03:09 PM

                        I misled you through connotation, Andy. Sorry to get your hopes up. I was making a mental chain of connections without spelling it out.

                        I began my quest two years ago, looking for a NY style deli. Then I figured I'd settle for an Israeli/Jewish deli that could serve up a chopped liver sandwich. Then I decided I'd be happy with a grocer that carried chopped liver. My only ray of hope was reading about a kosher Jewish deli in Charlotte. I decided to make the trek. It turned out to be more like Sabra than like a deli. Although they would make a sandwich if pressed, they really wanted to be a retailer for packaged kosher foods. I ended up buying a tub of frozen chopped liver, just as I did at Sabra. [BTW, I can't remember the name of the place, but it was way outside of town on the East side in a seedy little strip mall that looked old and weary. I believe they have moved since then.]

                        So when I wrote that line about wanting a NY style deli closer than Charlotte, I was combining two separate wishes. Type and geography.

                        North Carolina is no place for NY deli lovers!

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                        Rory Sep 23, 2006 10:14 PM

                        I just googled is it "Glieberman's' In Charlotte? it's described as take out & deli. Actually there is a glatt kosher restaurant "Jerusalem" & deli in Myrtle Beach, now that sounds delicious.....road trip.

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                          klmonline Sep 23, 2006 10:21 PM

                          I think that's the one. According to this article:
                          http://www.topix.net/content/kri/4181...
                          they now serve a complete tablecloth sit-down lunch and dinner. It sure wasn't set up for that when I was there! Good for them.

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