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Does anybody else not "get" chocolate?

frenetica Sep 15, 2006 01:00 AM

Tell me I'm not crazy, I'm not alone!

My whole life I've wondered if this global (or at least Western) chocolate obsession wasn't maybe a conspiracy to make me feel like the ultimate outsider?

I've just never really liked chocolate that much. It's not that I dislike it - the taste is fine, sometimes I'll order a hot chocolate, I'll bake chocolate chip cookies, etc.

But I've never experienced a craving for it, I don't find the flavour interesting, I've never voluntarily ordered a chocolate dessert. I feel totally out of place when a bunch of women will start rhapsodizing over chocolate and foaming at the mouth.

(I -do- have a sweet tooth, but it's for tangy sweets or nutty sweets.)

Do you think it's a peer pressure thing, that women simply feel that it's somehow "feminine" to be really into chocolate, or do I really lack whatever gland it is that controls chocolate obsession?

Help!

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    laguera Sep 15, 2006 01:31 AM

    I am a chocolate fan, but only of dark chocolate. I can totally understand that you don't find most chocolate desserts amazing and thus don't have a craving for them. A lot of chocolate is insipid. But, have you tried to eat just a square or two or really fine dark chocolate, like Valrhona or Michel Cluizel? I am totally with you on the tangy/nutty dessert thing. I don't like overly sweet desserts and I think sweets have to have an acid or bitter component to be satisfying. But, a really good piece of chocolate can hit the spot, because it does have a complex flavor, with components of acid, sweet, fruity, earthy. I know I'm not really answering your question, but I'm wondering if you have also experimented with more complex chocolate flavors.

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    1. re: laguera
      frenetica Sep 15, 2006 04:59 AM

      Sadly, when I do eat chocolate I prefer the mass-produced Cadbury's/Hershey's variety, so it's obviously not a matter of being sophisticated! I never really thought about it before but now I see what you mean about the acid in high-cocoa chocolate - you never think about chocolate as being sour but come to think of it, often dark chocolate is more immediately sour than bitter.

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      ML8000 Sep 15, 2006 01:57 AM

      You're not alone...but then I am a guy. I don't dislike chocolate at all. If it's served or available I'll happily eat it and like it. I prefer dark chocolate but I don't crave it or seek it. I do like See's Candy chocolates but I only buy them occasionally (3x a year, maybe $3 bucks) or eat then during the holiday. Even then I know I like the sugar and butter as much as the chocolate.

      Any way, the only things I can think of are:

      1) target marketing in that luxo, indulgent, special occasions sort of way, sort of like champange or diamonds

      2) chemical reaction - for some it's caffiene, sugar or what not, others it's chocolate

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      1. re: ML8000
        Candy Sep 15, 2006 09:16 PM

        It is the theobromine in chocolate that really gets the endorphins going and produces the feel good reaction. I have a square or two of 70%-82% dark chocolate every afternoon. I started eating a bit when I was on pain medication this spring. It really helped me to feel better while waiting for the meds to kick in. I can make a good rich bar last for over a week.

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        cheryl_h Sep 15, 2006 02:08 AM

        I don't "get" chocolate either. I can happily eat a cookie or a piece of a chocolate dessert but I certainly don't crave it. I much prefer fruit desserts, anything with pastry, to rich chocolate confections.

        1. amkirkland Sep 15, 2006 05:41 AM

          I think it's all of the above. I think peer pressure is a big deal, but I'm one of the insiders I suppose, because I find chocolate to be very satisfying. The best explanation is that it's got a little of everything. A little sweetness, a little bitter, a little roast, warm flavor with a cooling sensation in that it melts right around body tempurature. Oh, and I'm a guy.

          1. Peg Sep 15, 2006 08:01 AM

            I have zero craving for chocolate. I buy zero chocolate bars per year.. it simply does not occur to me. I do like high quality chocolates (belgian chocs in a box) - but only have them rarely.

            ... but cheese, now that's another matter... salivate, slobber....

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              JMEB Sep 15, 2006 08:18 AM

              I do love chocolate and prefer the higher quality brands if I can. But I think Chocolate is like coffee, tea, or wine it can be an aquired taste for some. Most people experience flavors and textures differently. It also has that afforable luxury aspect that people respond too. Not everyone can have (or enjoy) expensive chapagne or caviar...ah but chocolate you can buy for less than five bucks at the store(even small packages of high quality). That and it can also be a comfort food for many.

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                Abbeshay Sep 15, 2006 01:53 PM

                I agree with you, I've never really craved chocolate and am constantly frustrated by everyone else's obsession with it. It almost getting out of hand what with percentages and mixing chocolate with weird flavors. In fact, my biggest pet peeve is the people in bakeries and patisseries who finish off a beautiful pastry with the obligatory spatter of chocolate even though the item is not made with chocolate. Be a little more creative, please.

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                1. re: Abbeshay
                  frenetica Sep 15, 2006 02:59 PM

                  Yes! This is a huge peeve of mine!

                  1. re: frenetica
                    Michele4466 Sep 15, 2006 10:17 PM

                    Or when you order bread pudding or the like as dessert in a restaurant and they RUIN it with chocolate sauce ALL over the top... now that really pissed me off :-)

                    If you order a non chocolate based dessert, who makes that presumption that you want chocolate all over it?

                    1. re: Michele4466
                      Debbie W Sep 15, 2006 11:46 PM

                      I feel the same way about raspberry sauce. Order a piece of whatever, and it comes floating on a pool of raspberry sauce, or has raspberry sauce squiggles from a squeeze bottle all over it. Ick. I have learned to ask ahead.

                      1. re: Debbie W
                        Michele4466 Sep 17, 2006 02:09 PM

                        LOL

                        I do not mind raspberry sauce but when it warrants it or is stated as an ingredient... I also have started making sure the server knows I do not want ANY chocolate in or on my dessert (and if there is, as was the case with a bread pudding that had chocolate chunks cooked in it but not stated on the menu as chocolate bread pudding) and if it is made that way, let me choose something else...

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                  WineWidow Sep 15, 2006 01:58 PM

                  Yeah, I gotta say I'm with you on the whole chocolate thing. I like very dark chocolate, like the 70% kind, on occasion but I rarely get a real craving for it. I prefer fruit oriented desserts or things in the ginger/molasses/caramel sort of direction.

                  My husband, unfortunately, doesn't understand the point of any dessert that doesn't involve chocolate and almost outright refuses any dessert that involves a cooked/baked fruit. So, though I am a dab hand at pastry crust, I don't make pie too often because I'm the only one in the house who'll eat it and I'm already about 100lbs overweight so....

                  1. Scagnetti Sep 15, 2006 01:59 PM

                    I really enjoy chocolate but not to the extent of a lot of other people.

                    Realize this, there are compounds in chocolate that are very similar to those found in alcohol which might explain why some people crave chocolate so much.

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                      Akatonbo Sep 15, 2006 02:10 PM

                      I don't think peer pressure plays any part in it - I think it's a brain-chemical thing - as Scagnetti says, there are certain compounds in chocolate that could be addictive - it's the reason that many people (including me) refer to themselves (only half-laughingly) as "chocoholics!" Like any other "addiction," some people have the propensity, and some people don't. My husband didn't eat chocolate for many decades, because he was aware of his tendency to go overboard with it as a child. I work in an office where the office manager keeps a jar of M&Ms on her desk, because they're chocolate (she needs the fix), yet it's a form of chocolate candy she isn't crazy about (so it keeps her from overindulging). No one I know has that kind of tortured relationship with, say, crackers.

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                      1. re: Akatonbo
                        krissywats Sep 15, 2006 04:35 PM

                        You're close:

                        I'm really surprised no one here has mentioned the science behind chocolate. There is really reason for people, and specifically women, to crave it.

                        "...Chemically speaking, love translates into serotonin, dopamine, oxytocin, endorphins, and other brain chemicals. Some of these love chemicals are controlled by phenylethylamine (PEA), which happens to be found, among other places, in chocolate...Chocolate also contains anandamide, a chemical that targets the same brain structure as THC, the active ingredient in marijuana. Oxytocin and endorphins are the hormones of well-being, bonding, and trust and are pivotal hormones in orgasm, labor, birth and breast-feeding."

                        My understanding is that a woman's bond with oxytocin is higher than a mans. It's that feeling we get when we're in love (and for some of us, when we eat chocolate).

                        Also:

                        "New research has shown that the chemical, theobromine, in dark chocolate is a more powerful cough suppressant than codeine, without the side effects...Cocoa consumption is also being studied to treat diarrhea and other intestinal problems, because it decreases salt and water loss."

                        Chocolate also has more iron, ounce for ounce, than beef liver and is loaded with copper, magnesium and potassium. It's also been shown to lower blood pressure and help with good cholesterol.

                        Do we crave it because of our bodies need what it has or do we crave it for how it makes us feel when we eat it? Dunno - but I crave it.

                        (The above was from http://www.willystreet.coop/Newslette... but is easy to find in multiple sources through google.)

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                        Steve Sep 15, 2006 02:50 PM

                        There are two major Nutri-system commercials on TV right now. One is aimed at men, the other women. The 'male' commercial emphasizes the large portions of the Nutri-system meals. The 'female' commercial emphasizes the daily fix of chocolate.

                        Must be something to it; after all, it was on TV.

                        Surely somebody must know the scientific reason behind the desire for chocolate... is there reason to believe that this affects women more than men? And what about those heart-shaped boxes of chocolate for Valentine's Day. They aren't ALL sold for 1/2 price on Feb. 15th are they?

                        1. Michele4466 Sep 15, 2006 02:53 PM

                          I am in the same camp as you... I don't get chocolate... I cannot recall ever picking up a chocolate bar in the store (supermarket, candy store, 7-11) and eating it... though in my life I must have.

                          I do however, LOVE white chocolate... almost anything and everything white chocolate (though do not go out of my way to buy it) and crave vanilla...I am thrilled when I see "hot vanilla" on a menu in coffee bars...it is one of my faves...

                          I think vanilla ice cream by itself is the perfect dessert, add a little homemade whipped cream, if in the mood and I am set...I never add nuts or chunks of any kind, I am a purist...My husband thinks I am weird because everyone LOVES chocolate chip cookies in some form and I cannot eat them!

                          BTW: I do love carrot cake, cheesecake and fruit tarts as well...

                          I actually have a local patisserie make me b & w cookies with just the white... Unfortunately, I have to order them so I end up with more than I need to get my fix...

                          1. monkeyrotica Sep 15, 2006 03:05 PM

                            Same here. I don't get it. I can only handle the stuff if it's with something else, like rocky road icecream or a topping on a sundae. Eating a whole chocolate bar to me is like drinking a glass of warm lard. And I'm a guy who likes his lard.

                            Although, come to think of it, I recall having a small bar of a very light colored Godiva chocolate and found it smooth, creamy, not too sweet. Don't care for the dense, dark chocolates.

                            And I think it is a conspiracy. Hallmark and Whitman's and Brachs conspire to make us buy chocolates for Valentines Day and Mothers Day, kinda like how DeBeers pushes men to blow, what's it up to now, nine months salary on an engagement ring? Most women I know would take the cash and get a ring from a gumball machine.

                            I want to go back to the WWII days of giving women nylons as gifts instead of chocolates.

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                              cbauer Sep 15, 2006 03:14 PM

                              WORD! I just plain don't care for sweets, chocolate or otherwise. Just try finding a protein bar that isn't covered in chocolate. I finally settled on Luna's Lemon Zest - still a little too sweet for me, but at least it's not chocolate!

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                                Jefferson Sep 19, 2006 01:46 AM

                                There's a trend toward "trail mix" bars that don't take like horse feed. These are actually pretty good (if I recall correctly, a box of 5 is about $5.40 at Target):

                                Balance Bar - Trail Mix - Fruit and Nut
                                http://www.balance.com/products/trail...

                                1. re: Jefferson
                                  Michele4466 Sep 19, 2006 01:13 PM

                                  I go to the health food store for my "bars" both fruit and nut varieties. There are a few different brands that are really good, check out the flavors/types that appeal to you and you will be not be disappointed...at least I hope not. I personally like Barbra's Bakery for the fruit type but I forget the name of the one that does the really good "trail mix" variety.

                              2. mamamia Sep 15, 2006 03:40 PM

                                I'm along for the bus ride on this one.

                                Sure, I occasionally crave a brownie or some of that molten lava cake. But I like so many other tastes in the realm of sweet that chocolate just doesn't rank up at the top.

                                And the whole broohaha over 60% vs. 65% vs. 70% on the stuff from Belgium - lost on me, thanks.

                                P.S. I do love love Mexican hot chocolate, but I think it's half taste/half childhood memories

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                                  houndgirl Sep 15, 2006 03:52 PM

                                  I don't get it either. Don't have much of a sweet tooth and I prefer vanilla. And good point about those protein bars. They're convenient, but I wish they made cheese or pizza flavor.

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                                    tlegray Sep 15, 2006 03:53 PM

                                    You are not alone. I have friends that don't care for chocolate too. I myself don't mind chocolate and I will occasionally buy a chocolate dessert if a restaurant is known for it. I don't crave it and it's definitely not the answer to all my woes as some sterotypes seem to indicate. I guess I'm more a vanilla person.

                                    I tend to think there are more people that have your attitude. Really with all the variety of dessert available why just chocolate?

                                    1. chica Sep 15, 2006 04:16 PM

                                      It's fine to not crave it, and it's fine to crave it. Nothing is wrong with you if you're a woman, and you don't love it. Food is not gender-classified - only our perceptions and norms are. Perhaps women are just more willing to vocalize their desire for chocolate. Do you often hear of men in the US who have tea together? That's perfectly fine in England, though.

                                      True, there are some foods that either men or women should eat more of because of genetic predispositions, such as the greater likelihood of women to suffer osteoporosis, and thus the more dire need for calcium-laden foods. However, for the most part, food is neutral. (And, in that vein many women could just as well hate popular calcium foods, like milk).

                                      I encourage you to not feel frustrated because you feel you don't understand why so many people, especially women, tout chocolate. You simply do not have the predilection for it, while others do for their own reasons; either way is perfectly fine.

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                                        Main Line Tracey Sep 15, 2006 04:43 PM

                                        Chocolate releases the same brain chemicals (serotonin & neurophrenephrin) SP? that cocaine and being in love release. (A soothing sort of rush) Some people do not get addicted to certain things because of their brain chemistry. One person can smoke a cigarette and never do it again, others are immediately addicted.

                                        I understand that some women's serotonin levels drop signifigantly during PMS, and that is why chocolate is craved. Interestingly enough, during detox, patients on crystal meth crave any candy that is largely sugar, or any sugar-laden food. Years ago, when I quit smoking (cigarettes!), I ate 5 Triple chocolate Dove bars in one day.

                                        Food tastes good, but also causes chemical reactions in in the brain that can actually influence behavior. Chocolate, cheese & bread are my addictions!

                                        1. Dommy Sep 15, 2006 04:44 PM

                                          Count me in... SO almost killed me we went to the Scharfenberger Factory tour and I took only one piece of chocolate for the both of us. I snapped that in half, gave a half to him since we really only need a small taste to see what they were talking about... the next part of the tour when the sample basket came by to us, SO grabbed it out of my hand and placed one sample into mine and one sample into his... LOL!!

                                          Anyway, the only way I do chocolate now is with stuff in it. Like Vosges just came out with Chocolate Covered spicy tortilla chips... those things have my name written all over them...

                                          --Dommy!

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                                            kmr Sep 15, 2006 04:44 PM

                                            It seems like the world is divided into two camps: the chocolate eaters (the vast majority) and the "lemonophiles". We're the proud, the few, in search of the most perfect lemon bar cookies and would pass over a mountain of chocolate for a really perfect piece of lemon pie. Personally, I think those flourless death-by-chocolate type desserts are revolting! I've heard that eating chocolate releases endorphins in some people, creating a sense of well-being...

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                                            1. re: kmr
                                              mamamia Sep 15, 2006 04:53 PM

                                              I prefer citrus flavors as well. I could polish off a pint of lemon sorbet, and I love the grapefruit gelato my local joint makes.

                                              Love lemon bars...yum.

                                              1. re: kmr
                                                Dommy Sep 15, 2006 04:56 PM

                                                YES!! I am a TOTAL Lemonophile!! :) I pretty much have to try every lemon bar I run across... think you might be on to something... :)

                                                --Dommy!

                                                1. re: kmr
                                                  krissywats Sep 15, 2006 04:59 PM

                                                  Whoa WHOAAAAAAAA there a minute - don't start dividing us quite yet. I am equally as in love with a good lemon bar as I am flourless chocolate cake (ok, maybe slightly more in love with the flourless chocolate revoltingness). And you've completely left out the other-fruit-dessert people. 'Cause sometimes all I want is a big apple dessert with some caramel on it. I'm moody with my desserts as I am with my clothes and any other food. Sometimes a vanilla cupcake with butter frosting is all that will cut it. Just as long as there IS dessert, count me in.

                                                  1. re: krissywats
                                                    Will Owen Sep 15, 2006 08:07 PM

                                                    No, don't go dividing chocolate lovers from lemon lovers. Some of us are both, and simultaneously! I have always loved the combined flavors of chocolate and either lemon or orange, and was thrilled on my first visit to Italy to find that my nephews, who at that time had few other qualities to recommend them, were addicted to daily snacks of gelato with one scoop each of chocolate and lemon. This was the common kind of gelato, made daily from a commercial mix and offered very cheap in any bar, but of a smoothness and intensity of flavor I've not found anywhere else at any price.

                                                    1. re: Will Owen
                                                      Candy Sep 15, 2006 09:24 PM

                                                      I am also a chocolate and citrus lover. Other fruits too. I was assigned chocolate founde at one of our gourmet clubs dinners. What was really good were fresh cherries dipped in dark chocolate fondue. I made the fondue with Sharffen Berger 70% and thier cocoa.

                                                      1. re: Will Owen
                                                        Michele4466 Sep 15, 2006 10:18 PM

                                                        Or neither... :-)

                                                        I am not a huge fan of citrus desserts... though a huge fan of fruit desserts...

                                                      2. re: krissywats
                                                        davinagr Sep 15, 2006 10:29 PM

                                                        DITTO here Krissywats. I craveeeeeee lemon anything and also the same for chocolate with one caveat. I can't handle dark chocolate, don't like the taste at all, but love milk. Actually English milk chocolate in particular. Cadbury milk chocolate bars are divine to me.

                                                      3. re: kmr
                                                        monkeyrotica Sep 15, 2006 05:01 PM

                                                        Hey, what about the limephiles? I loves me some key lime pie so much I invented a drink I call the vanilla gimlet:

                                                        3 parts Stoli vanilla vodka
                                                        1 part Rose's Lime Juice

                                                        Tastes just like a key lime pie.

                                                        1. re: monkeyrotica
                                                          mamamia Sep 15, 2006 05:12 PM

                                                          I think Lemon-Lime-Citrus people are are all generally the same. I go gaga over the Key Lime Pie at Joe's in South Beach, and when I'm not pregnant I like the drink you posted above with Diet Coke thrown in for good measure.

                                                          But I do like other desserts as well.

                                                        2. re: kmr
                                                          frenetica Sep 15, 2006 05:06 PM

                                                          "Lemonophile" - you are so right on. This is much more valuable a distinction than the basic sweet/savoury dichotomy...

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                                                          kmr Sep 15, 2006 05:19 PM

                                                          Gosh, I feel so much better, knowing that there are so many other lemon-and-limeophiles out there! And yes, we must include the lime/other citrus flavors. I think I'll celebrate by making a batch of my favorite lemon-buttermilk ice cream. And yes, many people are fond of lemon sweets AND chocolate (or other sweets), but they can't really be true lemonophiles! I freely confess it, I'm a bit dogmatic on this issue..... ;)

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                                                            MuppetGrrl Sep 15, 2006 05:28 PM

                                                            Lemon buttermilk ice cream? Good god, that sounds heavenly. Like taking an actual bite from a cloud in heaven.

                                                            And I'm a chocoholic, but I don't think chocoholics aren't "true" if they happen to enjoy vanilla ice cream (which I do!)!

                                                            1. re: MuppetGrrl
                                                              Will Owen Sep 15, 2006 08:10 PM

                                                              kmr, would you please be an angel and put your lemon buttermilk ice cream recipe over on Home Cooking? That's another class of flavors that rings my bell bigtime...!

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                                                            MuppetGrrl Sep 15, 2006 05:27 PM

                                                            I don't know about the division, either. I had a vegan key lime pie (don't poo-poo it!) that was as mouthgasmic as any chocolate truffle I've had. I do tend to crave chocolate more on a day-to-day basis, but one of my favorite candies ever is orange and lemon bark--bits of lemon and orange buried inside some amazing chocolate. It's sweet, savory, bitter, tangy--everything in one.

                                                            I also enjoy a good vanilla-orange macaroon for a bit of non-chocolate decadence!

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                                                              ghbrooklyn Sep 15, 2006 05:42 PM

                                                              I am a chocolate fan and a man, and i have cravings for cheap and expensive chocolates. The brain chemistry is a big part, but I do think that the flavors of chocolate can be very complex. But I don't subscribe to the percentage movement - like wine and coffee, chocolate flavor is based in terroir, so if you have single-estate chocolates of different percentages, sometimes a 55% can be richer than a 90% because of the soil chemistry and environment in which the cacao was grown.
                                                              HOWEVER: I also LOVE lemon and lime desserts but I will go either way everytime I have the option.

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                                                                JMEB Sep 15, 2006 05:52 PM

                                                                It all sounds good! Also a thought, it is said that cravings are a result of of body asking us for a certain vitamin/mineral/chemical. For those who don't do chocolate they might (and apperently are) geting their kicks elsewhere! All is good in the land of desserts!

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                                                                1. re: JMEB
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                                                                  ML8000 Sep 15, 2006 06:28 PM

                                                                  I think cravings fit into categories, like (add your own):

                                                                  1) body-brain thing (sugar, caffiene) -- very immediate and now
                                                                  2) memory - sort of a long craving
                                                                  3) whole body -- not as hardwired as caffiene or suger, a slower on-set

                                                                  I know for me it's more sugar then anything else, then fat (butter). If chocolate is there...cool, but it's more about sugar and fat.

                                                                2. Bob W Sep 15, 2006 06:27 PM

                                                                  What I don't get is milk chocolate. I'm a dark chocolate guy all the way, but I am easily satisfied -- one square of a good bar of dark chocolate is usually all I need.

                                                                  One exception to my general lack of interest in milk chocolate -- M&Ms. They must put crack in those things.

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                                                                    mamamia Sep 15, 2006 08:03 PM

                                                                    Yes, it's crack.

                                                                    Don't eat the brown m&m's!!
                                                                    :p

                                                                    1. re: Bob W
                                                                      krissywats Sep 15, 2006 09:09 PM

                                                                      I've been telling my husband for years that milk chocolate is for the weak, unwashed masses. And white chocolate? ::::spits::::: don't insult me!!!

                                                                      Except M&Ms. I'm with you there. Peanut specifically for me.

                                                                      1. re: krissywats
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                                                                        AquaW Sep 15, 2006 09:42 PM

                                                                        heh, actually I like darks and I like whites (usually 'cause of the vanilla flavor) -- no love for the milk though.

                                                                        1. re: krissywats
                                                                          Michele4466 Sep 15, 2006 10:22 PM

                                                                          I am the opposite... not a dark or milk fan but white, most definitely...

                                                                          Have you tried the white chocolate covered Reese's yet? Sort of like your M & M's exception for me...

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                                                                            Akatonbo Sep 18, 2006 01:01 PM

                                                                            It's my understanding that "white chocolate" does not actually contain any chocolate (maybe it has butterfats onbtained from chocolate, or maybe the name is a toal misnomer) - so no wonder I don't like it.

                                                                          2. re: Bob W
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                                                                            JMEB Sep 16, 2006 08:23 AM

                                                                            BTW they have dark chocolate m&m's now

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                                                                            AquaW Sep 15, 2006 08:14 PM

                                                                            I'm a chocolate lover - but I know of a few rare folks who utterly loathe chcoolate, not dislike, not "meh..." - loathe!

                                                                            I'm a guy but I find myself in cycles of liking chocolates and fruitier sweets and sometimes just non-chocolatey, non-fruity sweets. But hey, as long as it's sweet goodness - I won't complain.

                                                                            1. sandrina Sep 15, 2006 09:43 PM

                                                                              No peer pressure whatsoever here. I love and drool over anything chocolate, particularly anything that's very fudgy. Now I have to go and eat some. Thanks a lot! LOL!

                                                                              1. Debbie W Sep 15, 2006 10:10 PM

                                                                                I enjoy chocolate but I don't crave it, never feel like I've gotta have some chocolate or else. When I do have chocolate, I prefer bittersweet over milk and I can take or leave white chocolate. I'm definitely not a lemonophile or limeophile, but I do very much enjoy the combination of orange and chocolate. If there's anything I crave, it's ice cream. I have always loved plain M&Ms.

                                                                                My husband, on the other hand, is a serious chocoholic, as in sometimes he's just gotta have that chocolate fix. Before I met my husband, I had a boyfriend who had had a physical aversion to chocolate as a child - and he suffered from migraines as a child and from cluster headaches as an adult.

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                                                                                1. re: Debbie W
                                                                                  krissywats Sep 16, 2006 05:10 AM

                                                                                  You should look for Green and Black's Dark chocolate with orange and spices - bet you'd dig it.

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                                                                                    Debbie W Sep 16, 2006 05:14 PM

                                                                                    Never heard of it, but I don't keep current on all the boutique chocolates. I'll check it out, thanks.

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                                                                                      krissywats Sep 17, 2006 04:55 AM

                                                                                      You can get it at whole foods now, i think. It's becoming quite popular. I got it at a local grocery store.

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                                                                                  Caillerets Sep 15, 2006 10:40 PM

                                                                                  I was indifferent to chocolate until I had it at Sprungli in Zurich. http://www.spruengli.ch/Shop/geschenk...

                                                                                  Life changing

                                                                                  1. Vexorg Sep 16, 2006 09:06 AM

                                                                                    I think I fit somewhere in between the chocolate lovers and those who dislike it. I'll eat chocolate on occasion, but I find that I have limits on how much I can tolerate. For example, I generally enjoy plain brownies, but add chocolate chips and that's pushing it a bit, and frosted brownies are just way too much chocolate for my liking. I still need to try some of the darker chocolates and see if those are more to my liking (I think much of the problem I have is that I think I have less tolerance for concentrated sweetness than some people.

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                                                                                    1. re: Vexorg
                                                                                      frenetica Sep 16, 2006 01:21 PM

                                                                                      "Concentrated sweetness" - you may be onto something. Do frosted cupcakes terrify you, too?

                                                                                      1. re: frenetica
                                                                                        Vexorg Sep 17, 2006 04:08 AM

                                                                                        I find that in general, I don't have a whole lot of tolerance for things with a lot of frosting (grocery store cakes in particular.) Cupcakes I don't usually have a problem with, since those don't have as much frosting on them as a slice of cake would. In generally, it's when things get too sugary that I start to dislike them. Most of the time I don't have a problem with homemade cakes though, since those aren't usually frosted as heavily.

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                                                                                          krissywats Sep 17, 2006 04:56 AM

                                                                                          Hahahaha - where as in my house the rule is that I get everyone's extra frosting.

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                                                                                            Michele4466 Sep 17, 2006 02:16 PM

                                                                                            I too love frosting for some weird, childhood memory reason... but it has to be vanilla, cream cheese or buttercream YUM!!!!

                                                                                            I would NEVER eat a brownie though, frosted or chipped or even a blondie and people do find that very weird and make it known that they do :-)

                                                                                            I cannot for some reason, understand the appeal of a brownie or a chocolate chip anything... however, I do not make a fuss about it (I just refrain) and enjoy watching others "ooh and aah" over my fresh baked treats (I will bake for my hubby, family and friends) or if I pick up a special dessert assortment at the patisserie we frequent.

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                                                                                      mrsry Sep 16, 2006 02:34 PM

                                                                                      I completely agree with the bafflement over chocoholics. I'm really not so into sweets to begin with, and I too am disgusted when I see other women go crazy over chocolate. As a woman there are a lot of things I don't understand about other women, and this only makes things worse. I really hate it when someone assumes that I should want a chocolate-laden dessert, when actually I hate dessert and especially anything chocolate! Then they think there's something wrong with me for not raving about chocolate.

                                                                                      I rarely eat candy, and when I eat candy with chocolate, it's usually something like Twix or Kit Kats, where something crunchy and cookie-like is the focus.

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                                                                                        TexasToast Sep 18, 2006 02:15 PM

                                                                                        Oh no, I SO "get" chocolate . . . but only the good stuff, though I'll settle for a TWIX or a KIT KAT! Oh, and chocolate cheesecake!

                                                                                        TT

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                                                                                          northernlite Sep 20, 2006 04:03 PM

                                                                                          coffee...or some of the more bitter stuff?

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                                                                                          beevod Sep 18, 2006 02:24 PM

                                                                                          When I need to lose a few pounds I live on nothing but vitamins and 3 large Cadbury bars daily.

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                                                                                            northernlite Sep 20, 2006 04:01 PM

                                                                                            LOL breakfast of champions

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                                                                                            andlulu Sep 19, 2006 12:45 PM

                                                                                            I've noticed myself not being that excited by dark chocolates anymore and going more for white chocolate, never liked it that much before and now I love it.

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                                                                                              ida Sep 19, 2006 01:16 PM

                                                                                              what a great topic! i'm a 46 year old woman who has never understood the chocolate thing either! maybe once or twice a year, i eat a dark chocolate truffle but it's not something i ever crave...give me a hunk of homemade lemon meringue pie or peach pie any day over chocolate!

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                                                                                                northernlite Sep 20, 2006 04:01 PM

                                                                                                The craving thing also comes from waht your body is lacking. If it's endorphines or just plain ol sugar for energy, no one will crave something they don't enjoy, so the lemon lovers will crave a piece of lemon pie, and the fruit lovers will crave fruitiness...... so it more or less a wider spectrum of people who enjoy chocolate more, hence more cravings. No one can actually say they haven't craved something sweet, or bitter to supress the sweeter side of life

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