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  <id>324718</id>
  <title>kosher wedding near NYC</title>
  <published_at>Sun Sep 10 15:34:04 -0700 2006</published_at>
  <post_count>38</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>28</id>
    <name>Kosher</name>
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      <post>
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        <id>1866454</id>
        <content>I'm newly engaged, and looking for a wedding site for about 250 people, with an outdoor ceremony site, for about $100pp with a kosher kitchen or that can bring in a kosher caterer.  Kosher food always costs more, ans usually isn't as good... any places out there like this that have great kosher food?  Thanks!

Looking specifically within an hour from NYC - LI, NJ...whatever...</content>
        <published_at>Sun Sep 10 15:34:04 -0700 2006</published_at>
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          <name>Nalega</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>1867114</id>
      <content>$100 pp, you're going to have a problem or jsut not going to eat.

2 suggestions -

If you're looking for a really very nice place that fit's you're physical requirements try the Hilton Garen Inn on Staten Island.  20 minutes from Brooklyn, 15 minutes from Newark airport.  www.sihilton.com


Shop around for a caterer - try Main Event Caterers - they do a nice job.  http://mecaterers.com/
Talk to them, tell them what your budget is at what your physical requirements are - ask them for ideas/advice, Im sure they'll be receptive.

Hope this helps</content>
      <published_at>Sun Sep 10 22:17:49 -0700 2006</published_at>
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      <user>
        <id>26367</id>
        <name>RichardGee</name>
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      <level>2</level>
      <id>1868110</id>
      <content>Just had my daughter's wedding at the Hilton garden Inn and used main Event. It was spectacular, but way,way above the $100pp you mentioned.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Sep 11 13:35:09 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1867114</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16135</id>
        <name>nyy7</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1868932</id>
      <content>I would recommend the Crystal Plaza in Livingston, NJ if you have it on a weeknight. The food is amazing and the place is beautiful inside and out.
www.crystalplaza.com</content>
      <published_at>Mon Sep 11 19:01:56 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1866454</parent_id>
      <user>
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        <name>Sunnigrl73</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>1870350</id>
      <content>When you say $100 per person, do you mean for the hall plus food, or for everything, including band, photographer, flowers, etc?  Do you want to include an open bar in that?
  You're probably best off looking at one of the places that has an in-house caterer, as bringing in food from outside tends to cost more.  You can call Prestige caterers (what I'd recommend) or Main Event or one of the other major local kosher caterers and see what they'd charge for what you have in mind, and then try to find a hall that would still fit into your budget, but I'd look at Crest Hollow (in LI), Marina del Rey (in the Bronx, on the water with a beautiful outdoor ceremony area, but I don't know that they do affairs that small), the Crystal Plaza (Livingston, NJ, but make sure that you specify Glatt rather than regular kosher when you talk to them) as all of them have kosher caterers in-house.  If you're willing to be flexible on the outdoor ceremony, that opens up a whole host of options that might be cheaper, in Brooklyn and elsewhere.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Sep 12 04:45:34 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1866454</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>39900</id>
        <name>GilaB</name>
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      <level>2</level>
      <id>1875607</id>
      <content>I found Marina Del Rey to be very esthetically pleasing and centrally located, but they need to have a 300 person min. The caterer is not in-house but I hear the food is good and run by some chap-a-nosh offshot from Brooklyn.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Sep 14 05:30:37 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1870350</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13726</id>
        <name>Sunnigrl73</name>
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      <level>3</level>
      <id>1875974</id>
      <content>I believe the minimum is higher than that now (closer to 400).</content>
      <published_at>Thu Sep 14 13:36:32 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1875607</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>14992</id>
        <name>sl96</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>1870660</id>
      <content>Let me clarify - by $100, I mean the base price per head, before tax (7%), service charge (18%) and rabbi or mashgiach (300-1000 additional), and beore any music or flowers, or photographer or dress....  $100 should be the initial price they mention - it'll still end up being $115-120 with tax etc.  


I have seen some beautiful places, that bring in truly kosher caterers that my orthodox friends and conservative rabbi completely approve of.  These places include for that price food, ceremony, open bar, vallet parking, cake etc...

I know they're out there, and was hoping to get some ideas from people who have hosted or attended similar parties.  I know they're not easy to find, but that's why I'm here.  Thanks!</content>
      <published_at>Tue Sep 12 12:43:04 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1866454</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>39382</id>
        <name>Nalega</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1871055</id>
      <content>Crest Hollow (as mentioned before) has a fairly new in-house glatt kosher caterer whose price can't be beat by the other kosher caterers who have had parties there.  I believe the name of the in-house caterer is Elite and they prepare a nice affair.  crest Hollow is nice in and out as well.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Sep 12 15:45:39 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1866454</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>14992</id>
        <name>sl96</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1872204</id>
      <content>I recommend Austein Caterers ( 516 ) 256 - 3582. Richie Austein is an excellent caterer. His food is delicious and he is a very knowledgable caterer. From what I understand, he is very easy to work with. He caters out of Temple Gates of Zion in Valley Stream (right next to Queens), but he also caters at different sites as well.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Sep 12 22:08:50 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1866454</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>15019</id>
        <name>jeterfan</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1872403</id>
      <content>There are some places that want minimum guarantees too, keep that in mind.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Sep 12 23:33:01 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1866454</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>26367</id>
        <name>RichardGee</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>1882499</id>
      <content>There are 2 catering facilities that I know of that are good for people trying to stay within budget: Astorian Manor in Queens(near the Triboro bridge) and Eden Palace in Williamsburg, Brooklyn. I haven't been to Astorian Manor in several years, but I was at Eden Terrace about 3 years ago.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Sep 17 18:21:49 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1866454</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>15019</id>
        <name>jeterfan</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>1912130</id>
      <content>There is a beautiful Country Club in Brooklyn called El Caribe Country Club or the Sands in Atlantic Beach. My siblings weddings were there and we had this teriffic caterer known as Classic Kosher Catering. I asked my mom and she said both places were under $100 per person and the abundance of food and the taste was truly outrageous. Maybe give them a call.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Sep 29 21:58:34 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1866454</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>43910</id>
        <name>alfonzo10</name>
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      <level>2</level>
      <id>2864819</id>
      <content>Sands = Big $$$</content>
      <published_at>Mon Aug 20 23:51:08 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>1912130</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>120513</id>
        <name>brooklynyid</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2153352</id>
      <content>Did you ever find a place? Please let know how your search turned out; I just started planning my wedding. Thanks.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Jan 04 19:54:20 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>1866454</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>64118</id>
        <name>keedaah</name>
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      <level>2</level>
      <id>2155731</id>
      <content>We're going with the Crystal Plaza, in livingston nj.  They have a kosher kitchen, rather than just bringing in a kosher caterer.  (It did end up costing more than the original idea of 100pp - that price was possible if doing non kosher, but this was average to low for kosher).  

Most places we ended up looking at were in NJ - Mayfair farms, florentine gardens (loved this place)...  I have a whole spreadsheet of places I called if you need some ideas, and you know any specifics of what your look for...  good luck!</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jan 05 14:17:58 -0800 2007</published_at>
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      <user>
        <id>39382</id>
        <name>Nalega</name>
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      <level>3</level>
      <id>2164536</id>
      <content>Thank you for the quick reply. We are having our wedding at a local temple ($1300 for a 5 hour reception). Exquisite caterers is catering the affair for 100 guests. All the fees + renting the room for the reception comes out to $97 a head before taxes and gratuity. We are pleased with this number as we were trying to plan our wedding for $100 per person. After we marry in October, I will give you an update on the caterers service and food.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jan 08 13:50:49 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2155731</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>64118</id>
        <name>keedaah</name>
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      <level>3</level>
      <id>2168497</id>
      <content>The food is very good, wonderful ambiance, expensive, really a very nice place. I've been to a few weddings there. You may want to check out their Kashrut (and dont be surprised what you find). They will accomodate glatt kosher meals brought in which the Vaad of Metro West can arrange.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 09 09:14:35 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2155731</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>26367</id>
        <name>RichardGee</name>
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      <level>3</level>
      <id>2169279</id>
      <content>I'm happy to hear you went with the Crystal. We also ended up picking them for our wedding. I've never been to a wedding there but I know others who have and I've been to other affairs of theirs and we had our engagement party there. just wonderful!</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 09 16:32:05 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2155731</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13726</id>
        <name>Sunnigrl73</name>
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      <level>3</level>
      <id>2210688</id>
      <content>I am planning a wedding for Nov o7 and I am from NJ- Bergen County and now live in NY.  My family is secular but his family is very religious.  WE need help finding kosher wedding place that is affordable.  I would love to see your spreadsheet.  Thanks!</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jan 21 01:27:12 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2155731</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>68153</id>
        <name>jodib5</name>
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      <level>4</level>
      <id>2220853</id>
      <content>i can email it if you'd like - email me at naga6794 at aol dot com if interested...</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 24 05:45:57 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2210688</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>39382</id>
        <name>Nalega</name>
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      <level>3</level>
      <id>2282734</id>
      <content>could u email me your spreadsheet since i am also planning a wedding for my daughter soon.  thanks</content>
      <published_at>Sun Feb 11 16:58:45 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2155731</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>73726</id>
        <name>anne603</name>
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      <level>3</level>
      <id>2565562</id>
      <content>can u foward me the spread sheet please we are just starting to look and are overwhelmed </content>
      <published_at>Sun May 13 01:03:55 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2155731</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>98247</id>
        <name>chunie9</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>2170554</id>
      <content>Wow, $100pp. My daughter got married in 2003, The places that I looked at, Eden Palace, Ateres Avraham, Rose Castle, and Ateres Chayil were around $85 per COUPLE. I went with Eden Palace and paid $92 a COUPLE because I had extras like a few carving stations. Problem with the places that I mentioned is that they each required a minimum of 400 people. I know that prices are up since 2003, but $100 per PERSON i.e,$200 per COUPLE - wow!</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 09 21:14:17 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>1866454</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16616</id>
        <name>MartyB</name>
      </user>
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      <level>2</level>
      <id>2211724</id>
      <content>Aside from prices changing since 2003, bear in mind that prices change seasonally, too - if you get married in August, you'll frequently pay more than if you marry in January.  Also, you get what you pay for. I've been to weddings at most of the places you've mentioned, and haven't been impressed.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jan 21 17:23:04 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2170554</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>39900</id>
        <name>GilaB</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>2212307</id>
      <content>I attended a wedding at Eden Palace and I thought that the hosts received good value for the amount that they spent. Several years ago, I attended a wedding at Woodbury Jewish Center. The food was the most delicious food that I ever had at a catered affair. While the food and service were much better than Eden Palace, the hosts probably spent double or triple the amount that it would have cost at Eden Palace. 

Many people can not afford to have an affair at Woodbury Jewish Center or at a comparable place and will find an economical alternative.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jan 21 21:40:35 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>1866454</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>15019</id>
        <name>jeterfan</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>2236547</id>
      <content>My children are being married in Israel in June, and I want to make a reception for them in NJ in August.  I have found what I think is a wonderful place--the Botanic Gardens at Rutgers--Now I need a caterer--Must be strictly kosher, but with at least a touch of flair--please let me know what your experience is either with the place or the availability of local caterers</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jan 28 18:33:26 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>1866454</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>69940</id>
        <name>surib</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2236625</id>
      <content>Try Main Event Caterers.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jan 28 19:00:21 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>1866454</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>15019</id>
        <name>jeterfan</name>
      </user>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>2236635</id>
      <content>I used Simply Divine, and they were wonderful.  Very creative, and the food was as beautiful to look at as it was to eat.  </content>
      <published_at>Sun Jan 28 19:02:36 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>1866454</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>15994</id>
        <name>Clarissa</name>
      </user>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>2250806</id>
      <content>Hello Nalega.

I'd LOVE to take a look at your spreadsheet of kosher NJ wedding sites at reasonable price. My budget's about the same as your initial one.
Thanks.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Feb 01 14:35:47 -0800 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>1866454</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>70999</id>
        <name>meems15</name>
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      <level>2</level>
      <id>2573307</id>
      <content>Wow
u guys make it sound like money just grows on trees.
I just got engaged and me and my fiance are trying to find a decent place with a $65-70 a couple, being that we have like 400 on the list.

and it's being extreamly hard to find something we both like
</content>
      <published_at>Tue May 15 22:09:38 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2250806</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>98932</id>
        <name>Factory Girl</name>
      </user>
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      <level>3</level>
      <id>2573872</id>
      <content>Found this on one of the blogs -&gt;

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Williamsburg's halls go like this:

1. Brucha Sima - very cheap. Very ugly. The rebbishe, very frum, and very poor go there.
2. Bais Rochel - affordable. But it's small so only smallish families go there.
3. VaYoel Moshe - the most sought after hall. It's gorgeous, but price wise it's just about at the edge of affordability. The people who take it either can afford it or are usually the ones who are embarrassed to go to a cheaper hall... (I got married there for the record.)
4. Concorde Plaza - I think it's about the VaYoel Moshe range but for some reason people shy away from booking it - I don't know why. But people do go there. Maybe cuz it's about out of the central area.
5. Continental - very gorgeous, but only for negidim. Expensive.
6. Rose Castle - only for super negidim and rich non chasidim
7. Ateres Avraham - for the filthy rich and all non chasidim!
8. Eden Palace - no one uses.

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For the record, I used Eden Palace for my daughter's wedding.

To this list I would add the Viznitz Hall in Boro Park as well as Ateres Chayil and  Ateres Chinka. I know there are more in Brooklyn, If you are interested I can do more research. I went to some modest weddings of friends of mine, I just can't rember their names - the halls, not the friends. I think one was on McDonald Ave in Brooklyn and another one on New Utrich Ave, and now that I think about it another one was off Ft Hamilton Parkway. Maybe some ChowHounders can fill in the blanks.</content>
      <published_at>Wed May 16 07:47:47 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2573307</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16616</id>
        <name>MartyB</name>
      </user>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>2575051</id>
      <content>I got married 6 months ago at Mayfair Farms, in West Orange NJ. The place is absolutely gorgeous and does not look like your typical hall. It has several outdoor gardens so that if you get lucky with the weather you can have an outdoor chupa or shmorg. See www.mayfairfarms.com  

The caterer was Prestige, and the food was delicious and plentiful, with excellent service. See www.prestigecaterers.com

If you need a phographer we used Hello Video &amp; Photo Studio and got stunning outdoor pictures and a great video that even our friends could not get over. See www.hellovideo.com 

For the Orchestra we had Ari Pollack who always does a great job. He is a master at playing the right songs and not "killing" a good dance session by playing something no one knows.

Most importantly, once the wedding day comes don't get caught up with the small details of the day and just have the time of your life! 

</content>
      <published_at>Wed May 16 12:55:58 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>1866454</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>85645</id>
        <name>baroy</name>
      </user>
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      <level>2</level>
      <id>2645368</id>
      <content>This is so helpful. We live in Brooklyn, and are not strictly kosher, but we do keep a kosher home and want to have a kosher Bat Mitzvah for my daughter new March. So far, there aren't many suitable, local, not too expensive places. I've looked at the Marriott (which has a kosher option) but wasn't overwhelmed. I'm going to try some of the ideas listed above. Also, I'm guessing that the Grand Prospect Hall (which has a kosher option) is one of the places mentioned above. No one that I know has anything great to say about it, other than it's location in the Park Slope area. Didn't there used to be a few places in Mill Basin? I already left Eden a message, I'm just wondering. Thanks.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jun 09 16:55:28 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2575051</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>104280</id>
        <name>Sherrynd</name>
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      <level>3</level>
      <id>2804948</id>
      <content>my son in getting married in ny and the other side is looking into Ateres Avraham or the Eden Palace.  Since I am from out of town, I don;t know either place.  If you have checked these out, can you give me a review of each and the differenc e&gt;  That would be greatly appreciated.  My e=mail is lgens8@gmail.com</content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 01 16:19:42 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2645368</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>116092</id>
        <name>canuk</name>
      </user>
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      <level>4</level>
      <id>2806911</id>
      <content>I've gone to chasanas at both halls. they're both good (IMHO, better than the other halls in Williamsburg)</content>
      <published_at>Thu Aug 02 09:08:27 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2804948</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13122</id>
        <name>berel</name>
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      <level>2</level>
      <id>2883420</id>
      <content>Just got engaged and now also looking for ideas for a kosher NJ wedding. Baroy, would you mind giving a sense of Mayfair Farms pricing--it sounds great--would love to know if they'd be within our budget...</content>
      <published_at>Sun Aug 26 14:56:06 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2575051</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>23714</id>
        <name>noya</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>2885087</id>
      <content>Hi Noya, Congrats on your engagement!

We paid less than $100 per person at Mayfair Farms which included everything but the prices may be higher now since I know they were renegotiating the contract with the caterer at the time and we got in at the old price. I think your best bet is to call Mayfair Farms or set up a meeting and discuss it directly. Keep in mind that if you guarantee a certain amount of people, and have the wedding on a weekday you are more likely to be able to negotiate a terrific price. 

The service and the professionalism exhibited by the entire staff at Mayfair Farms was really superb and I would highly recommend them. Feel free to contact me with any other questions.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Aug 27 07:56:22 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2883420</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>85645</id>
        <name>baroy</name>
      </user>
    </post>
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      <level>4</level>
      <id>2886291</id>
      <content>Thank you so much--and good to know. I'm calling them NOW :-)  BTW--where did you have out of towners stay? My email is el.a@sbcglobal dot net if you happen to have any other great recommendations (I did notice the ones above but also wondering about invitations and all the other details.) Again, thank you SO much.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Aug 27 12:36:11 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>2885087</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>23714</id>
        <name>noya</name>
      </user>
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