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Good american chinese food in Manhattan

I love american and canadian chinese food. I am curious to compare the new york city to the ones I know ( I have tried the Montreal, Toronto and Boston versions, all very good with some subtle but substantial differences). Any one know of a good reliable place in Manhattan? My criteria are no buffet, clean and having on the menu the usual suspects: chop suey, chow menin, lo mein, fried rice and egg foo young.

Thanks for your recommendations!

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  1. Chop suey, chow mein, lo mein, fried rice and especially egg foo young does disgrace to chinese food. I think chop suey came from the words chop stew and was created when the railroad was being constructed. You don't know what you are missing in terms of chinese food in terms of the variety. If you spent your whole life eating chinese food you will only have a fraction of what exists.

    If you want Chinatown I would recommend
    Shanghai Cafe
    http://www.menupages.com/restaurantde...

    Give the soup dumplings with crab meat a try.
    Also, try the ka fu which is made out of gluten (no meat). Its a cold dish. Also, try the shanghai rice cakes made out of rice flour, stir fried with chicken. They got some noodle dishes there too. Bubble tea there is not the best, but still decent.

    If you want non-chinatown, try
    Sammy's Noodle Shop
    453 Ave of The Americas
    in the Village

    http://newyork.citysearch.com/profile...

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    1. re: designerboy01

      Thanks for the recommendations! Actually, I live in Toronto and have been to many authentic chinese restaurants with chicken feet and the like. I was asking for "american chinese food" which is a type of cuisine on its own and has its own merits. i will check your recommendations though!

      1. re: designerboy01

        Snob alert!

        There's no shame in asking for good americanized chinese food... there's a time and taste for everything. Sometimes I want clams w/ black bean sauce, or Yu-Zhou chicken w/ sichuan peppercorns or shanghai soup dumplings. Other times I want good chicken lo mein or pork fried rice or bbq spareribs. It just depends.

        That being said Chef Ho's on UES is decent for this type of 'cuisine'

      2. One phenomenon you might be intrigued by if you are interested in food that has been adapted culturally is Cuban-Chinese food. When I lived in NYC in the 70's, 8th Avenue in midtown was rife with restaurants that advertised Comidas Chinas y Criollas -- it was the food of Chinese people who'd immigrated to Cuba, and then after the revolution immigrated to the US. I don't know if those places are still around, but that was certainly an interesting cultural adaptation of Chinese food similar to the "chop suey" phenomenon.

        The strangest adaptation I've ever experienced was a sushi restaurant in Billings, Montana, that served canned tuna on warm rice.

        Altho, I suppose spam sushi is another cultural adaptation.

        ;-)

        1. Cuban-chinese? Now that is something I will definitely check out! Thanks!

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          1. re: Fredster

            I used to love eating Cuban Chinese food as a kid in the 80s, especially a place called LaCaridad on the West Side. Was that the name? The weird thing I always found in Cuban-Chinese places, if I remember correctly, was that it was just two menus side-by-side: one with Chinese items, one with Cuban items. I don't remember any dish that mixed the two cuisines at all.

            www.SnapshotArtifact.org

            1. re: Midtown Jimmi

              I was disappointed by that, actually. I was hoping to discover some cool combo like, er, cuban black beans with asian greens and sesame pancakes. Guess I'll have to come up with my own.

              1. re: piccola

                As long as we're off on this tangent: along Liberty Avenue in Richmond Hill, Queens, where you can get some great halal chicken, roti and bakes, there is a smattering of places that mix chinese-american influences and west indian staples. One place inparticular had "Jerk Chicken Fried Rice" on the menu.

              2. re: Midtown Jimmi

                Yes its
                La Caridad.
                2199 Broadway
                New York, NY 10024-6611
                (212) 874-2780

                I recommend the beef stew over rice.

                1. re: designerboy01

                  The last time I walked past Caridad a few weeks ago it was "closed for renovations". Hopefully they reopen.

                  Another good Chinese-Spanish on the UWS is La Nueva Victoria on 95th and Broadway.

                  Not quite as inventive as Caridad but very good.

              3. re: Fredster

                You might want to consider Asia de Cuba, which does a very eclectic menu of Asian and Cuban flavors. It's slightly costly, but worth the unique New York experience.

                1. re: Fredster

                  There was an interesting thread a few weeks ago on the Los Angeles board about Cuban Chinese cuisine (which is almost nonexistent in Los Angeles). One of the posters provided a link to an interesting story on New York's Cuban Chinese restaurants.

                  http://www.gothamgazette.com/citizen/...

                2. La Chinita Linda on 166 8th Avenue and 18th/19th. Yes, they have the menu side by side; not fusion cuisine, but the Chinese food is very "american" style. Still it's funny because you can order something from both menus. I like the Chopped Deep Fried Chicken - delicious and served with fresh lemon wedges (see it's like Asian style...) def. not Cuban.

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                  1. re: chloe.speaks

                    Chinita linda is no more.
                    La nueva rampa is the only cuban chin left in Chelsea. It is on the north side of 14th, a bit east of 7th ave. Some things are better, somethings are not the same.

                  2. Negative opinions of "classic Chinese-American cuisine" notwithstanding (I enjoy the "real thing" as well as the American stuff), Chef Ho's on the upper east side has good, reliable Chinese-American food. Check out their menu and reviews on menupages.com.