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Aug 31, 2006 09:32 PM

Pork Chop Peking Style

Jimmy's House in Manhattan used to have the crispiest, and best Pork Chop peking style years ago. I've had some since then but nowhere near as good. Any suggestions? It would be great if it's somewhere in Elmhurst or Queens.

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  1. try Joe's Shanghai in Flushing

    1. A few years too late, but Hop Kee on Mott Street in Chinatown has excellent authentic porkchop peking style.

      1. There is a Cantonese restaurant named 鳯凰阁 @45 Ave in Elmhurst; sorry, forgot their English name (something like High Sea Pearl?), but it's next door to the Hong Kong Supermarket. They make good pork chops Peking style, and the ribs cooked the same way are even better.

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        1. re: diprey11

          The English name of this place is High Pearl Seafood, 8222 45th Ave, Flushing, NY 11373-3539. I've never had this dish there, but can vouch for the quality of that restaurant's beef chow fun cooked dry - gawn chow ngow haw.

          I wouldn't recommend Joe's Shanghai for this dish, even if they do serve it, which I kind of doubt. And while I haven't had it at Canton Gourmet on Prince Street in Flushing, based on their salt and pepper pork chops, I'd say it's very good there. Note, these two dishes are essentially the same, except the salt and pepper pork chops skip the sauce and are covered instead with fried jalapenos and shallots and a liberal dose of salt.

          1. re: Greg

            I'll vouche for Canton Gourmet's version, which I've had a few times. It's my favorite in the city. Imperial Palace does a good job as well.

        2. go the Imperial Palace, they do an excellent rendition (I eat this dish almost everytime i go to a Cantonese restaurant. The downfall tends to be either the pork chops are soggy and not crispy, the sauce is too watery or too gloppy or too sweet, but IP gets it right (although their sauce is slightly watery than i like) and does a very good job on these (SCG probably did the best job, but they're closed now)

          1. I've had good renditions of this dish at Happy Garden (60-06 Main Street) in Flushing. Personally, I prefer the salt and pepper fried pork chops, which is basically the same dish without the sauce.

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            1. re: Robotron

              how is that place? ive seen it before bc its next to bei gang (main street imperial), but never eaten there

              1. re: Lau

                My parents are Cantonese and Happy Garden is their favorite restaurant in Flushing, both for the food and the ease of parking. Also seems to be a favorite among my relatives, since I've been to more than a few celebratory dinners there over the last year. I prefer spicier fares which they don't have there, but they are very good with Cantonese style dishes. My parents like to order the crabs in sticky rice there.

                They have several private dining rooms downstairs and I believe their 2nd floor dining room is now open.

                1. re: Robotron

                  hmm interesting, ill give it a try

                  1. re: Robotron

                    btw what are your favorite dishes there?

                    1. re: Lau

                      I like fried stuff (and who doesn't) so I like to order the deep fried crispy bean curd, the pork chop w chili & salt, or the fried squid w chili & salt. Also some of the casseroles are very good: curry beef stew, diced chicken & eggplant w salted fish, and lamb and dried bean curb. I'm not a fan of fish but I like their sauteed fish fillet. They usually serve a good bowl of complimentary soup with the meal but the soups on the menu are also good (don't remember which ones my parents ordered).

                      I did have a bad dish, stead w black pepper sauce, the other day for lunch so don't order that.

                      One last thing, don't order the deep fried stuff for take-out. They won't stay crispy on the way home.

                      1. re: Robotron

                        i never get take out so thats not a problem

                        sounds good, typical cantonese family style stuff...ill give it a try

                        1. re: Lau

                          Was on my way to Lake Pavillion, but I was dining solo and wasn't in the mood to sit with 5 people at same table. So I went across the street to Happy Garden for Lunch. Strange thing is they had another menu that called their restaurant East Dim Sum. When I asked if they had dim sum, they said "not yet". The other interesting thing is the signs outside are all in Chinese. No English. I think that's what attracted me to the place. All diners were there were Chinese. They had a nice fish tank with healthy looking fish, lobsters, crabs. The menu was pretty ordinary, nothing really exotic. But I was not in mood for exotic. I was in mood for dim sum initially, but since they didn't have any I ordered Beef Congee, which was good and it was accompanied by their rendition of fried noodle or more like a zeppole without sugar. I've never saw that before . It was really good with the soup. I also had Cantonese ChowMein/ PanFried Noodles with seafood. This is a common dish but what I was in the mood for and they did at least as good a job of preparing it as Lake Pavillion would have.
                          Anyway, I'm attaching two pictures ( not of the best quality)One is a big sign above the restaurant that I assume is the name. The neon sign says something different in Chinese writing. I'd like to know what it says, and how that relates to either the name East Dim Sum or Happy Garden. Thanks.

                          1. re: foodwhisperer

                            ive heard that restaurant is good, but i have yet to try it.

                            i'm not sure if you're talking about noodles or a zeppole as you mentioned both? But if you're talking about a zeppole there is a kind of you tiao / you char kway (fried cruller) that is not a long one like the normal ones you've probably, but a much smaller fat shorter one which is probably what that is (i don't see it that often in NY but i have from time to time).

                            The 2nd picture is just the name of the restaurant. I read everything except like 3 characters on the first sign (throwing me off a bit on the top left side), but the 3 read characters on the right say di yi jia, meaning #1 house, but more likely like # restaurant. The bottom talk about a garlic lamb chop. This place always has a big sign in neon out front advertising chiu chow style cold crab (its a cold crab that has been steamed that you eat with this vinegar, usually quite expensive in HK bc they use flower crabs, but not nearly as expensive in the US)

                            1. re: Lau

                              Thanks Lau. The fried cruller ( similar to a zeppole in some ways) was cut into 2 inch pieces. It was served with the congee. Many places in C town, serve those fried wheat noodles often referred to in Western terms as "Chinese Noodles". So I found it interesting and delicious that they served this cruller like item with the congee. As far as the sign ,, it is interesting that the restaurant has 2 names in English. And the signs advertise what sounds like interesting dishes , and a different name than the English names. They do seem to specialize in seafood. I'm sure Lake Pavillion hurt their business though.

                              1. re: foodwhisperer

                                the crueller is called a you tiao (in mandarin) and yau char gwai in cantonese. You've never had this with congee? That's how you're supposed to eat congee, you take that and dip it in the congee

                                no i think it only has one name although two names if u consider the chinese name and english name 2 names. almost all chinese restaurants the chinese name is different than the english name

                                1. re: Lau

                                  Thanks for the info. It always helps when I know how to say a dish in Chinese ( whether Mandarin or Cantonese). Congee is one of my favorite things. I have had it in many restaurants and this is the first time I've had yau char gwai. In Manhattan Chinatown they usually serve the crunchy fried wheat noodles. In Lake Pavillion they serve no yay char gwai ( maybe I have to ask for it). This adds a new dimension to my Congee ( which I usually call Chok ) i think in Mandarin it's Tso. Anyway, I can't wait to ask for yay char gwai . Thanks

                                  1. re: foodwhisperer

                                    crunchy fried wheat noodles with congee? that's not normal, i don't know why they are giving you those, ive never even heard of that. I eat congee all the time in manhattan and i always get a you tiao, you have to ask for it bc it costs extra.

                                    also if you're not make sure to add white pepper to your congee, it makes it so much better

                                    i think my cantonese transliteration isnt very good it should be more like yau ja gwai. congee is called juk in cantonese or zhou in mandarin fyi

                                    last thing do you live in the city? if you do, just get congee in the city its better than flushing

                                    1. re: Lau

                                      As a white guy, I can say that he's probably getting the fried noodles because that's what they put on the table when a white guy sits down.

                                      I think a more accurate transliteration of the crullers is yew jow gwai, or fried crispy devil. I was told that is the "peasant" way of saying yao tiao, and that even Cantonese speakers order "yao tiao" these days. Not sure if that's correct, or if someone was giving me crap because my Cantonese is littered with Toishan expressions.

                                      Agree with Lau that there isn't much good juk in Flushing. I've looked. You can get it at the dim sum houses, but it's not as good as say, Big Wong in Manhattan.

                                      1. re: Greg

                                        yau ja gwai is a very cantonese term. you hear both fyi. toisan cantonese is a different dialect and sounds weird, my cantonese sucks really bad but i can barely understand anything at all when people speak toisan

                                        congee is one of manhattan's strongest points, in fact id argue the congee in manhattan is actually very good. I like NY Noodletown, Hing Huang, Big Wong, XO Kitchen and many other places all make good congee. I dont actually find it all that different than a sort of run of the mill place in HK

                                      2. re: Lau

                                        First juk or chok i pronounce same. zhou i know how to pronounce as my good friend is from Shanghai. So I know a few mandarin words like chopsticks something spelled like qweitze cantonese is faiji,,,, well terrible at this spelling thing. Anyway, 17 Mott which is the first place I've ever eaten congee, and yes in many ways terrible, always serves it with fried wheat noodles already in the congee also on the side. So do some of the other places in Ctown. I think Congee village does too. Happy Garden/East dim sum, the place we were talking about, serves the yay ja gwai for no extra charge. I always used to put Chinese mustard in my congee,,, because i like the taste with it. But as of the last year I always use white pepper. Happy Garden and Lake Pavillion give white pepper or ask if you want automatically. It goes well. Both have decent congee.
                                        Filipino congee ( arroz caldo or goto) they don't usually add white pepper I eat that often and add calamansi and patis(fish sauce). I've had it at most of the banquet type places. I don't like it much at Congee Village. Golden Unicorn can be good if there early. I will try the places you mentioned, and yes Greg is right as a guailo or lofan they always give the wheat noodles.

                                        1. re: foodwhisperer

                                          isnt 17 mott street wo hop?

                                          go try it at one of the places i mentioned earlier, those place make it as they specialize in it, its usually much better than the dim sum places etc

                                          1. re: foodwhisperer

                                            Careful with the Shanghai dialect vs the standard Mandarin. ;-)
                                            Enjoy your breakfast!

                                            1. re: diprey11

                                              haha i cannot understand a single word they say! (literally)

                                              1. re: diprey11

                                                haha ok. Also, Lau, yes its Wo Hop down stairs. I'll try the other places. Way back when, 17 Mott Wo Hop had mostly rice dishes and noodle dishes and roast duck. None of the Chinese /American stuff they have now. It was a good cheap place for noodles or rice. Now it's all tourists but its open until 4 AM. I'm sure the other places are better

                                                1. re: foodwhisperer

                                                  yah they make good congee, def worth trying...probably the best thing manhattan chinatown turns out like i said very close to the real thing